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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-26 10:47:11
July 26 2018 10:16 GMT
#6661
I hope you keep him. Navas is still good enough and Lunin can replace him in one or two years. The next season will be for rebuilding anyways, so I can't understand all the fuss about Courtois. Madrid needs good young forward and central midfielder, not a GK.
Savatage
Profile Joined February 2016
Italy182 Posts
July 26 2018 12:51 GMT
#6662
I cannot find any motive to change Navas for anyone (maybe the best version of Neuer or Buffon...), he's good and solid enough
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
July 26 2018 12:54 GMT
#6663
On July 25 2018 09:11 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2018 08:01 Faruko wrote:
Roma is thinking to sue barcelona


Barca done little wrong though. Its more on Bordeaux side? If offer was accepted and barca came in with better offer, Bordeaux should still allow Roma to proceed, but they blocked Roma's talks with the player and demanded them to match barca offer, despite already accepting to previous offer...

Of course it's said that no paperwork was finalized to indicate the acceptance..


Where can I read this? Thanks in advance!
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
July 26 2018 15:05 GMT
#6664
On July 26 2018 18:21 Pandemona wrote:
I'll raise you our official tweet. It says specifically he is backup to Tibo and Willy. I read into that, Chelsea telling everyone Tibo going no where. When we signed Eduardo for our 3rd choice keeper last two years they never mentioned him being back up to our keepers so....i think that is Chelsea saying Tibo is staying btw.


the back up for only 1

Willy is fucking awful
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6214 Posts
July 26 2018 15:44 GMT
#6665
On July 25 2018 12:19 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2018 10:48 nayumi wrote:
On July 25 2018 08:01 Faruko wrote:
Roma is thinking to sue barcelona

Barca or Bordeaux?

If Barca, then on what grounds? Maybe Barca secretly convince Malcom to break the deal and lure him with the sweet nectar of Champions League?



I doubt they have grounds for suing anyone .. agreements in principal mean nothing until Pen is put to paper..

Das tuff Roma, If I was Roma I'd be mad though, business is business I suppose.. seems like a bit of a despo move on Barca's side aswell.

In the Netherlands spoken agreements are legally binding too. Not sure how it's in other countries. You'd still have to prove it of course which is usually the problem.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
July 26 2018 16:07 GMT
#6666
In Chile, they are too, spoken agreements are legally binding.

It's hard to use as a proof without not being a hidden camer which is ilegal in it's own right or a text message which as far as i know it's almost impossible to proove being real

but yes, spoken agreements are a thing in some countries
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-27 00:00:05
July 26 2018 23:59 GMT
#6667
On July 27 2018 00:44 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2018 12:19 Rebs wrote:
On July 25 2018 10:48 nayumi wrote:
On July 25 2018 08:01 Faruko wrote:
Roma is thinking to sue barcelona

Barca or Bordeaux?

If Barca, then on what grounds? Maybe Barca secretly convince Malcom to break the deal and lure him with the sweet nectar of Champions League?



I doubt they have grounds for suing anyone .. agreements in principal mean nothing until Pen is put to paper..

Das tuff Roma, If I was Roma I'd be mad though, business is business I suppose.. seems like a bit of a despo move on Barca's side aswell.

In the Netherlands spoken agreements are legally binding too. Not sure how it's in other countries. You'd still have to prove it of course which is usually the problem.


Verbal agreements are a thing in alot of countries but as you said proving it is generally next to impossible. Although.. in this case it may not be as hard given there were announcements from both sides, if that information is correct.

The problem also is one of where the jurisdiction of the agreement falls under.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-27 00:30:20
July 27 2018 00:17 GMT
#6668
On July 26 2018 21:54 brinepumps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2018 09:11 DucK- wrote:
On July 25 2018 08:01 Faruko wrote:
Roma is thinking to sue barcelona


Barca done little wrong though. Its more on Bordeaux side? If offer was accepted and barca came in with better offer, Bordeaux should still allow Roma to proceed, but they blocked Roma's talks with the player and demanded them to match barca offer, despite already accepting to previous offer...

Of course it's said that no paperwork was finalized to indicate the acceptance..


Where can I read this? Thanks in advance!


http://global.espn.com/football/as-roma/story/3573210/roma-could-take-legal-action-against-malcom-bordeaux-monchi

On another note, mourinho piling the pressure on klopp. Like I said about conte, when you're a defensive/ tactical manager, you invite pressure to yourself because the only thing keeping fans happy are trophies and not your football.

Klopp has proven that his side is starting to improve and understand his style. I think if he doesn't win this season it is fine as long as the team still looks competitive. Progress. Next season should be when you demand his side to win something big.

Meanwhile mourinho sounds like he is giving up. His team has been stagnant. There's nothing positive to cheer about.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
July 27 2018 01:31 GMT
#6669
On July 27 2018 09:17 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2018 21:54 brinepumps wrote:
On July 25 2018 09:11 DucK- wrote:
On July 25 2018 08:01 Faruko wrote:
Roma is thinking to sue barcelona


Barca done little wrong though. Its more on Bordeaux side? If offer was accepted and barca came in with better offer, Bordeaux should still allow Roma to proceed, but they blocked Roma's talks with the player and demanded them to match barca offer, despite already accepting to previous offer...

Of course it's said that no paperwork was finalized to indicate the acceptance..


Where can I read this? Thanks in advance!


http://global.espn.com/football/as-roma/story/3573210/roma-could-take-legal-action-against-malcom-bordeaux-monchi

On another note, mourinho piling the pressure on klopp. Like I said about conte, when you're a defensive/ tactical manager, you invite pressure to yourself because the only thing keeping fans happy are trophies and not your football.

Klopp has proven that his side is starting to improve and understand his style. I think if he doesn't win this season it is fine as long as the team still looks competitive. Progress. Next season should be when you demand his side to win something big.

Meanwhile mourinho sounds like he is giving up. His team has been stagnant. There's nothing positive to cheer about.

i think you need to at least win something to keep your good players around though... if Salah has another god-like season and remains titleless by the end of it, chances are he'll move and things will only go downhill from there ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 27 2018 06:04 GMT
#6670
On July 27 2018 10:31 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2018 09:17 DucK- wrote:
On July 26 2018 21:54 brinepumps wrote:
On July 25 2018 09:11 DucK- wrote:
On July 25 2018 08:01 Faruko wrote:
Roma is thinking to sue barcelona


Barca done little wrong though. Its more on Bordeaux side? If offer was accepted and barca came in with better offer, Bordeaux should still allow Roma to proceed, but they blocked Roma's talks with the player and demanded them to match barca offer, despite already accepting to previous offer...

Of course it's said that no paperwork was finalized to indicate the acceptance..


Where can I read this? Thanks in advance!


http://global.espn.com/football/as-roma/story/3573210/roma-could-take-legal-action-against-malcom-bordeaux-monchi

On another note, mourinho piling the pressure on klopp. Like I said about conte, when you're a defensive/ tactical manager, you invite pressure to yourself because the only thing keeping fans happy are trophies and not your football.

Klopp has proven that his side is starting to improve and understand his style. I think if he doesn't win this season it is fine as long as the team still looks competitive. Progress. Next season should be when you demand his side to win something big.

Meanwhile mourinho sounds like he is giving up. His team has been stagnant. There's nothing positive to cheer about.

i think you need to at least win something to keep your good players around though... if Salah has another god-like season and remains titleless by the end of it, chances are he'll move and things will only go downhill from there ...


I think you need to show you're relevant and can win. What will keep them in the club is the faith that the project will succeed. Liverpool had a shit defence, vvd got signed. Keeper fucks up so often, they signed alisson. Midfield only know how to pass sideways? Boom keita and fabinho. Lack of squad depth? They got ox and shaqiri now. The club is clearly on the up. Results are showing, and work is done to continue the progress. That's why I don't think Liverpool stars will want to leave yet, until at least 2 more seasons.

Its different from Wenger's arsenal. After the invincibles era, he went for youth. Year after year they got close, but every year the same problems wasnt fixed. Lack of a leader, lack of a midfield general, shift defence etc. Didn't spend when they should. Its no surprise that their stars got tired of the stagnancy and left. Funnily adebayor nasri rvp sagna etc all left to win trophies elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure hazard will stay at Chelsea despite lack of UCL cuz of sarri. An exciting form of football that he probably likes and will be integral in.

Spurs though are in the position arsenal was in. Its an exciting project, but clearly not good enough to win. Signs are already showing with walker leaving for manc. Man if your team can't even finish 2nd at a time when Leicester won the league, you know you need big changes in terms of quality.
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
July 27 2018 06:26 GMT
#6671
Man if your team can't even finish 2nd at a time when Leicester won the league, you know you need big changes in terms of quality.


It still hurts
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
July 27 2018 10:08 GMT
#6672
I like Mourinho attack on Klopp, he doing it because they have spent a lot of money and he has continued to do so since he has been at Liverpool. Even though the same guy is quoted multiple times saying he will never buy players for big money etc etc. Yet he holds two records in England for most expensive keeper and defender signing lol.

They have to win something this season or at least challenge in the premier league which they have yet to do under Klopp.

If Salah does not score 45 goals this season, how on earth will Scouse cope without that?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 27 2018 12:25 GMT
#6673
haha

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 29 2018 09:17 GMT
#6674
Welcome to America.

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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1936 Posts
July 29 2018 11:04 GMT
#6675
American football is a rough game.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2713 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-29 12:44:29
July 29 2018 12:38 GMT
#6676
So Simeone is now the second longest serving manager in top 5 leagues (after Angers coach,Stephane Moulin, both of them appointed in 2011).

Honestly, after they won la Liga and they loosed Courtois, Filipe Luis and Diego Costa I thought the end of the project was close. But they have kept it stable. They even finished #2 last year after the transfer ban.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
July 29 2018 15:01 GMT
#6677
They even got 2 of those 3 players back haha!

Right now as well, i think they could really push both Barca and Real this year. Costa, Greizman, Martins and Lemar, plus other good players like Vitolo and Gameiro!

Plus they have arguably one of best defenses in world anyway with Godin and Gimez. Plus Savc looks half decent.

Everywhere you look they are just so solid, can really see them having a great challenge this season, maybe even champs league final....Juve vs Atletico anyone?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1936 Posts
July 29 2018 19:48 GMT
#6678
On July 30 2018 00:01 Pandemona wrote:
They even got 2 of those 3 players back haha!

Right now as well, i think they could really push both Barca and Real this year. Costa, Greizman, Martins and Lemar, plus other good players like Vitolo and Gameiro!

Plus they have arguably one of best defenses in world anyway with Godin and Gimez. Plus Savc looks half decent.

Everywhere you look they are just so solid, can really see them having a great challenge this season, maybe even champs league final....Juve vs Atletico anyone?

I think in the league either Barca or RM is going to rule with deeper lineup and all that, but UCL & Copa del Rey are always up for grabs if you can do well in a handful of specific games.

As much as they did win La Liga once, at least according to gambling odds it's still considered a once in a lifetime occurrence.

Maybe with Real rebuilding, there's some opportunity though... I'm not sure how much fumbling Barca needs to do, but its definitely better than the usual La Liga odds.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
July 30 2018 09:12 GMT
#6679
Portugal dominated the U19 Euros, even without 4-5 starters (playing the pre-season for their clubs). Future looks bright. :o)

Meanwhile, Moise Kean from Juventus is one to watch, amazing talent. Single-handedly kept Italy in the game.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 31 2018 14:00 GMT
#6680
Right...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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