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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17187 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-16 01:57:54
March 16 2017 01:57 GMT
#1161
Wiggins shooting is obvious. any one can look it up. The thing that killed Minnie tonight was Rubio getting into foul trouble. Wiggins did a nice job scoring late when it didn't matter.

When Rubio is not directing the defense Wiggins is clueless when it comes to making a decision when a screen occurs any where within 4 feet of him. its "hey, i got 'em .. i mean he's your man right? ,,,, i mean uhhh" .... wide open shot.... SWISH. that pattern happens a lot less when Rubio is directing traffic.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 16 2017 02:08 GMT
#1162
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
March 16 2017 02:26 GMT
#1163
Two Thoughts:

That guy has a rad hairdo.

Does anyone play defense?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17187 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-16 02:37:56
March 16 2017 02:28 GMT
#1164
Try watching the actual games instead of reading boxscores man. Rubio is the brains of that outfit. After Rubio got his 4th foul Thibs put him on the bench. Boston went on a 24-11 run while Minnesota's defense was 5 guys running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

Its not all bone headed plays by Wiggins though. Its also that Rush guy; he isn't as bad as Wiggins but he makes some glaring errors. Put the 2 of them together... and uhhh ya.\

i think Towns and Rubio are above average defensively. I think Wiggins is very bad and Rush is below average on defense. I don't watch them enough to have strong opinions on the other players on the team. Outside of those 4 guys, generally, their defense ain't great.

any one can look up the offensive stats of these players. so i thought i'd provide some insight into what i see them doing defensively.

anyhow, the team is getting better. They're 1 game over .500 in the last ~45 games... so its not all doom and gloom.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 16 2017 02:40 GMT
#1165
Poor Ginobili must've angered the basketball gods. He missed the first free throw down 3 with a few seconds remaining. He then tried to miss the second free throw and it did some weird shit and bounced in.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 16 2017 02:44 GMT
#1166
we coming for that 8th seed nuggets
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17187 Posts
March 16 2017 02:49 GMT
#1167
if Milwaukee loses then Miami holds the 8th seed in the east. good luck knocking them out of the playoffs if they get in.
good news for Miami is that Dragic's sight is 100% even though the area around his eye looks horrible.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 16 2017 04:50 GMT
#1168
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17187 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-16 06:55:37
March 16 2017 06:50 GMT
#1169
confirmation bias?

at the start of the year, with limited observations, i thought Rubio needed to be replaced. with more detailed observations, clearly, that is no longer my view. Rubio is doing a good job. Where is my confirmation bias there? I even outlined the tipping point in my view of Rubio around game 40 of the season.

I have zero invested in how Wiggins plays defense. I could care less. The guy is a lousy defender. I've already posted the defensive metrics on him. They have not changed as the season has progressed.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
March 16 2017 07:37 GMT
#1170
My Lakers playing to keep that draft pick
I carry hard!
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 16 2017 13:42 GMT
#1171
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17187 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-16 15:51:42
March 16 2017 15:47 GMT
#1172
an interesting look at DNP-Rest and LBJ's workload. ya, that lazy coasting piece of garbage LBJ!
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents170316a/numbers-lebron-james-crazy-workload

On March 16 2017 22:42 JimmiC wrote:
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On March 16 2017 15:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
confirmation bias?

at the start of the year, with limited observations, i thought Rubio needed to be replaced. with more detailed observations, clearly, that is no longer my view. Rubio is doing a good job. Where is my confirmation bias there? I even outlined the tipping point in my view of Rubio around game 40 of the season.

I have zero invested in how Wiggins plays defense. I could care less. The guy is a lousy defender. I've already posted the defensive metrics on him. They have not changed as the season has progressed.

Even your "evidence" is faulty. If the communication breaks down when Rubio leaves that's not on Wiggins that's on Rubio s replacement. If when Wiggins left the court the defense was way Better that would support your post. This is just another time where the more you write it shows how little you actually understand the game.

But the main issue was you claiming he was making people look like kobe, which was laughably wrong.

no it was a joke.. it was not a main issue. Kobe's performance varied wildly throughout his long career. i provided a more precise description of what was going on. but if you want to latch on to a joke and go on and on about it rather than have a discussion about Wiggins poor decision making that is reflected in his defensive #s.. have fun.

i've already presented several defensive metrics in the past. you have provided none. you have no piece of objective evidence that Wiggins is even an average defender.

By every metric and observation Wiggins defense falls somewhere between below average and very bad. As long as all he has to do is cover 1 guy far away from the hoop he is fine. as soon as he gets involved in making a decision about a screen or getting into a rotation or help situation then Wiggins makes a lot of mistakes and relies on his team mates to make smart decisions to cover for him. Pull a team mate off the floor who makes smart moves on defense and WIggins gets exposed... like he did last night.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 16 2017 17:05 GMT
#1173
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 16 2017 17:38 GMT
#1174
Its that time again.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 16 2017 18:20 GMT
#1175
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
March 16 2017 22:44 GMT
#1176
The Northwestern game was awesome, been a pretty hype first day so far excitement wise.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 16 2017 23:30 GMT
#1177
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 17 2017 01:06 GMT
#1178
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 17 2017 03:01 GMT
#1179
As somebody who is more of an NBA fan, some of the college rules are weird to me, and not in a good way. They just don't seem to make sense. Apparently, coaches can call a timeout after their team scores. And if a defense commits an off the ball foul while the ball is in the air and the shot goes in, the offense gets the ball back instead of just getting an and-1.

And this Markkanen guy is a potential top-5 pick? He seems pretty good. Though I suppose it's against the 15 seed.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
March 17 2017 07:23 GMT
#1180
You need to just accept the fact that College games are scrimmages.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
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