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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 11 2017 14:53 GMT
#5961
I don't like unpolished products joining a big club so early, especially when they have not yet gotten 1-2 full seasons of football. They need to prove themselves first, then join a top club and walk straight into the first team. I can see Gnabry going to struggle to get minutes in Bayern, and waste his development years.

Oh and England finally winning something lol
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28752 Posts
June 11 2017 15:35 GMT
#5962
agreed with duck. especially young players should imo prioritize being at the best club where they can be a regular starter rather than do like, career-hedgebets.
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 16:30:53
June 11 2017 16:26 GMT
#5963
fuuck. Nothing easy ofc -.- but thank god that the last two matches weren't switched up. BFC Dynamo vs BTSV would result in another tribune ban in the end
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2395 Posts
June 11 2017 16:34 GMT
#5964
There seems to be a pattern at Bayern. I don't understand why they didn't leave Renato Sanches on loan at Benfica this season, he would've played nearly every game and continued to grow.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
June 11 2017 16:35 GMT
#5965
On June 12 2017 01:34 warding wrote:
There seems to be a pattern at Bayern. I don't understand why they didn't leave Renato Sanches on loan at Benfica this season, he would've played nearly every game and continued to grow.

Honestly I feel like this is pretty much Ancelottis fault. Under another coach Renato Sanches would have played way more this season. But Ancelotti reaaaally trusts in the old guard.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 11 2017 16:40 GMT
#5966
Yeah i don't get Ancelotti with his squad right now. Renato and Costa barely touched a ball and both of those showed potential, Costa the season before under Pep was great. Both of them look to be on there way out and they bring in Gnarby?? lol
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
June 11 2017 16:42 GMT
#5967
On June 12 2017 01:40 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah i don't get Ancelotti with his squad right now. Renato and Costa barely touched a ball and both of those showed potential, Costa the season before under Pep was great. Both of them look to be on there way out and they bring in Gnarby?? lol

tbf I understand why they did buy Gnabry ( 8 million for a talented German striker). I would expect them tho to loan him to a club like Hoffenheim.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 11 2017 16:44 GMT
#5968
But i thought Gnarby didn't even play for Bremen last season?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
June 11 2017 16:50 GMT
#5969
On June 12 2017 01:44 Pandemona wrote:
But i thought Gnarby didn't even play for Bremen last season?

He played quite a bit in the beginning, was out with an injury and the team went on a huge streak. Gnabry would score cool goals and have the game revolve around him but the team overall found their stride without him.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-11 17:03:50
June 11 2017 16:57 GMT
#5970
On June 12 2017 01:44 Pandemona wrote:
But i thought Gnarby didn't even play for Bremen last season?

He was the only reason Bremen actually stayed competitive in the first half of the season(scored a lot of goals when Bremen was a shitshow). Then he got injured. When he got back Bremen was suddenly that well oiled machine and Bartels-Kruse really functioned perfectly together so he had a hart time getting playtime because Bremen was suddenly sooo good without him. I'm not saying he is the next big thing but he was pretty good when he played and considering how much Bayern paid... I can definitely see the reasoning behind that (from Bayerns perspective). I think it's a dumb move though by Gnabry.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 11 2017 18:09 GMT
#5971
On June 12 2017 01:57 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 01:44 Pandemona wrote:
But i thought Gnarby didn't even play for Bremen last season?

He was the only reason Bremen actually stayed competitive in the first half of the season(scored a lot of goals when Bremen was a shitshow). Then he got injured. When he got back Bremen was suddenly that well oiled machine and Bartels-Kruse really functioned perfectly together so he had a hart time getting playtime because Bremen was suddenly sooo good without him. I'm not saying he is the next big thing but he was pretty good when he played and considering how much Bayern paid... I can definitely see the reasoning behind that (from Bayerns perspective). I think it's a dumb move though by Gnabry.

So a small gamble for Bayern and a big one for Gnabry.

It all has to do with the top teams being so stacked with the best players nowadays and being able to afford those gambles. It was way easier for a young talent to find some playing time in the CL contenders 10/15 years ago. Now there are barely any CL contenders left. Just look at Chelsea hoarding system, they can't help players like KDB or Lukaku to make the last step and have to let go the unfinished player. Same for Barca, they have several champions in Europe who could not make it in the first team.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18604 Posts
June 12 2017 04:50 GMT
#5972
Class is permanent, eh?
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2726 Posts
June 12 2017 07:08 GMT
#5973
On June 12 2017 01:40 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah i don't get Ancelotti with his squad right now. Renato and Costa barely touched a ball and both of those showed potential, Costa the season before under Pep was great. Both of them look to be on there way out and they bring in Gnarby?? lol


It was the same in Real Madrid. He barely rotated and the team was exhausted the second season. Zidane is doing a better job, more players are feeling important with him.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 11:38:56
June 12 2017 11:38 GMT
#5974
Fabinho (Monaco) is supposedly a done deal for United, something around £40m. Will not be announced for about 2 weeks since he is on vacations
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
June 12 2017 12:33 GMT
#5975
On June 12 2017 01:40 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah i don't get Ancelotti with his squad right now. Renato and Costa barely touched a ball and both of those showed potential, Costa the season before under Pep was great. Both of them look to be on there way out and they bring in Gnarby?? lol

Costa showed potential for like half a season as long as he had a secured starting spot due to Ribery being injured.

Then he had to decide if he wanted to show that he deserves the spot or to pout. He chose to pout.

Fuck that guy.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 12 2017 12:37 GMT
#5976
I see fair enough, guess Costa and Renato will leave and Bayern fans wont mind. Also doubly wont mind if the other guy coming in to replace those is Alexis Sanchez!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
June 12 2017 13:32 GMT
#5977
Gnabry is mostly a free risk transfer, at worst you sell it back a year later

8m is just nothing for Bayern, and he has shown some pretty decent skills overall
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 13:39:56
June 12 2017 13:39 GMT
#5978
On June 12 2017 22:32 Faruko wrote:
Gnabry is mostly a free risk transfer, at worst you sell it back a year later

8m is just nothing for Bayern, and he has shown some pretty decent skills overall

Definitely. I also quite enjoy that the Gnabri transfer resulted in probably the biggest meltdown of Bayern fans I've witnessed so far online
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
June 12 2017 18:30 GMT
#5979
Eh how come stealth not posted US goal yet

https://streamable.com/bguve
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 12 2017 22:20 GMT
#5980
on top of all reddit right now that goal
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