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On September 09 2016 18:53 Pandemona wrote:Roma are position 3  But whilst that is a point, position 2 in Netherlands didn't get in either. So they are the league below Ukraine i think. Russia also first time 3 from them in a very long time. So it all swings and roundabouts.
That's kinda beside the point. He is using the fact that Roma and Villareal (within the top 4 of the leagues who will be *guaranteed* a position in the new system) to show that the new rules give an advantage to leagues that don't deserve it at all, based on their results. So that leaves money as the only justification of the new rules. And that is not really what we would like to see drive the Champions League clubs selection (especially as it is money in a "rich get richer" scenario).
Qualification for the other teams got made harder, and there will be a less diverse representation. Now you could argue that a PSV, a Dinamo Kiev or a Rostov don't add anything, and the games are shit quality anyway, but (1) they draw in people from NL, Ukraine and Russia to be a little bit invested in the CL, and (2) apparently Villareal or Roma are actually even worse quality than these qualifiers.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Roma did have 90 minutes of WTF which cost them their game vs Porto i'll point out. However the point is valid indeed, they clearly deserve place in that competition but what they are doing is targeting the TV audiences that give them the most money to increase prize pool etc etc. Imagine if England did lose its 4th place team because Italy got carried by Juventus as they have a golden group of players now. Would significantly drop viewership from England for a start in which im pretty sure we have the most expensive contracts for said competition (BT vs Sky Sports war ended with 897£million deal) that would drop significantly as less games to be broadcast. If your club isn't in the champions league you are only really looking for the big games which come later in the knock out stages only.
However that just my little argument, i don't see point in keeping it how it is anyway as it justs England vs Spain vs Germany vs Italy battling for the 4th place anyway as no one else remotely close to taking anyone over.
http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/
Top 3 teams = 4 places
Italy vs England for that (3 points difference atm)
France 5th with 45 points..
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It's not just one place more for Italy, it is 5 because the qualification spots are now guaranteed. If it just added one more guaranteed spot for 4th place and kept the rest in plac e it would be much less of an issue.
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On September 09 2016 20:48 sneirac wrote:
It's not just one place more for Italy, it is 5 because the qualification spots are now guaranteed. If it just added one more guaranteed spot for 4th place and kept the rest in plac e it would be much less of an issue.
It would still imo be unacceptable. I dont like the change at all. I get what they are trying to do but if I was one of the countries or clubs getting shafted I'd be pissed and they are.
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Ter Stegen injured, Cillessen will have to play
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Lol. Cilessen got pretty lucky with that. Hope he does better than the first few games of the season with Ajax. I like him, but was quite glad Ajax sold him.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Right Manchester derby time! Pep vs Jose....what a way to restart the domestic leagues!
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The cicrumstances of this derby are just twisting my mind. I legitimately cannot decide if I want a team to win or lose, yet even which team I want to win/lose more.
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City's pressing is ridiculous, Rooney's already given it away 3-4 times thus far, not looking good.
Thought it was more Bailly's fault for not challenging than Blind's.
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That was a nice goal from de Bruyne
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this Lingard guy is so bad..
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Norway28910 Posts
yeah lol lingaard is not doing well. not rooney either. fellaini been a good ballwinner, pogba showing some class, but city by far best team so far. Seems like Guardiola is adapting to the league though - that 1-0 goal was as premier league as they get..
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why is lingard starting again? mata/martial/rashford all tired or something?
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Miki has been awful for Yanited so far, long way to go this season of course but he has started his career off very poorly.
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Don't think he's been awful, he's fast, which is enough reason to be on the pitch
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Blind is having a shocker!!!
2-0! Mourinho on course to be spanked?!
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Don't wanna be too negative but I knew all these weaknesses would be exposed against a real team. Mou needs to make some subs probably even before the half.
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On September 10 2016 21:06 Pandemona wrote:
Blind is having a shocker!!!
2-0! Mourinho on course to be spanked?!
Blind was never very good at core defensive tasks, so this shouldn't surprise anyone.
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Mkhitaryan and Lingard can't keep a ball and Blind sleeping.. makes it impossible for Man U
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