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smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
December 29 2015 14:52 GMT
#4441
So that Bamford guy was pretty hyped before the season iirc and now he leaves Palace because of a lack of chances. He's a Chelsea player after all so whenare we going to witness his breakthrough and why shouldn't it be for Chelsea who lack competence in every part of their squad? : )
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 29 2015 15:15 GMT
#4442
Because Bamford hasn't done anything in the premier league yet. He cut short that loan spell cuz he was offered game time and didn't get it anywhere not even in the cups.

He like Ake just wanted premier league experience to show Chelsea they are good enough but Bamford did not get it for 6 months.
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smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
December 29 2015 15:45 GMT
#4443
Dude P-God you can't just give me a logical answer when I'm trying to provoke you. That's not how the internet and this thread works!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 16:45:26
December 29 2015 16:45 GMT
#4444
Haha well u didnt reply to me in star wars thread so :3

Also please when are we having our Pudge support game again
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Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
December 29 2015 17:18 GMT
#4445
EPL is really interesting this year. Stoke is fun, Leicester is of course making things interesting at the top. Arsenal keeps teasing...

The champions league places race could be fantastic and the title itself is up for grabs.
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
December 29 2015 20:03 GMT
#4446
On December 30 2015 01:45 Pandemona wrote:
Haha well u didnt reply to me in star wars thread so :3

Also please when are we having our Pudge support game again

I'm not sure the world would survive another of my pudge support games. That one match did more harm to the entire planet than climate change. Add that in my new flat the internet is shit and I can barely play 5 minutes without spiking to 300 ping and stuttering for half a minute. That allows me to play lich at best.

We were agreeing in the star wars thread anyway and I didn't think it was the best place to further develope our relationship : P

Back to the point, do you think Bamford can realistically hope to earn a starting 11 spot in any pl team by summer?

gogo leicester.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 29 2015 20:45 GMT
#4447
Haha

Wow upgrade the internet fucking Deutsche telecom is poor!!

I think he could have done something for Bournemouth etc but might be to late to do something this season, he isn't fresh in anyones mind unlike end of last season when he was joint(?) top scorer of the championship. So im not sure he might have to drop down into championship again. Must be hard when he finally thought he was getting his chance in the premier league so he can show Chelsea but he didn't get a look in
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 22:23:41
December 29 2015 22:23 GMT
#4448
Patrick Friolet: "I am told that it is almost guaranteed that Drogba will not play with the Impact in 2016. IMFC actively looking for a striker"


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
December 30 2015 01:14 GMT
#4449
On December 29 2015 02:21 Boucot wrote:
Do you believe Tottenham can be a contender for the title or will they not be able to keep this form for much longer ?

Sorry, missed this post. No chance for the title this season, but top 4 is very possible. If Levy backs Pochettino with a striker in January, then I think third place is attainable for Spurs, as Leicester's squad is paper thin. Ultimately, only Arsenal and Man City have the squad depth to win the PL this season.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 30 2015 03:31 GMT
#4450
On December 30 2015 10:14 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:21 Boucot wrote:
Do you believe Tottenham can be a contender for the title or will they not be able to keep this form for much longer ?

Sorry, missed this post. No chance for the title this season, but top 4 is very possible. If Levy backs Pochettino with a striker in January, then I think third place is attainable for Spurs, as Leicester's squad is paper thin. Ultimately, only Arsenal and Man City have the squad depth to win the PL this season.

Thank you, I don't know much about Tottenham so I was really interested to know from someone who does. And yeah, I think that Leicester won't be able to hold until the end, I expect them to explode physically in the next months. I hope not because the storyline is beautiful but I'm very worried. The way they play must be exhausting and they don't have a big bench.

Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
December 30 2015 04:37 GMT
#4451
On December 30 2015 12:31 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 10:14 city42 wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:21 Boucot wrote:
Do you believe Tottenham can be a contender for the title or will they not be able to keep this form for much longer ?

Sorry, missed this post. No chance for the title this season, but top 4 is very possible. If Levy backs Pochettino with a striker in January, then I think third place is attainable for Spurs, as Leicester's squad is paper thin. Ultimately, only Arsenal and Man City have the squad depth to win the PL this season.

Thank you, I don't know much about Tottenham so I was really interested to know from someone who does. And yeah, I think that Leicester won't be able to hold until the end, I expect them to explode physically in the next months. I hope not because the storyline is beautiful but I'm very worried. The way they play must be exhausting and they don't have a big bench.


I still think Leicester can hold onto 4th place, simply because Man Utd and Liverpool are the only other competitors and neither are playing well.

To give a bit more info on Tottenham: Pochettino deserves huge credit for this season. The Tottenham squad had become a complete mess in recent seasons, despite finishing 5th-6th. A number of players seemed to be happy living in London, earning PL-level wages, and getting by on 70% effort. Pochettino became the fourth manager in a little over 24 months, and the atmosphere around the club wasn't good, to say the least. He immediately began a total makeover of the squad, getting rid of ~15 players over two summers and replacing them with young, hungry kids (several from the Spurs youth academy) with 100% commitment to the team. The best example of this is Adebayor (by FAR the highest-paid Spurs player ever) being replaced by Harry Kane and exiled from the squad.

With virtually no net spend in the transfer market, Pochettino has assembled the youngest and fittest squad in the league, and next season should be even better. The only worry is that Poch himself might be a target for bigger clubs this summer.

The other secret is Hugo Lloris, who is unbelievable but will never get as much credit as Cech/de Gea/Courtois for some reason. Even Jack Butland is more hyped than poor Hugo now. Among Tottenham supporters he is a demigod at this point, with this moment against Watford his latest miracle.
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 06:30:44
December 30 2015 06:28 GMT
#4452
On December 30 2015 13:37 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 12:31 Boucot wrote:
On December 30 2015 10:14 city42 wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:21 Boucot wrote:
Do you believe Tottenham can be a contender for the title or will they not be able to keep this form for much longer ?

Sorry, missed this post. No chance for the title this season, but top 4 is very possible. If Levy backs Pochettino with a striker in January, then I think third place is attainable for Spurs, as Leicester's squad is paper thin. Ultimately, only Arsenal and Man City have the squad depth to win the PL this season.

Thank you, I don't know much about Tottenham so I was really interested to know from someone who does. And yeah, I think that Leicester won't be able to hold until the end, I expect them to explode physically in the next months. I hope not because the storyline is beautiful but I'm very worried. The way they play must be exhausting and they don't have a big bench.


I still think Leicester can hold onto 4th place, simply because Man Utd and Liverpool are the only other competitors and neither are playing well.

To give a bit more info on Tottenham: Pochettino deserves huge credit for this season. The Tottenham squad had become a complete mess in recent seasons, despite finishing 5th-6th. A number of players seemed to be happy living in London, earning PL-level wages, and getting by on 70% effort. Pochettino became the fourth manager in a little over 24 months, and the atmosphere around the club wasn't good, to say the least. He immediately began a total makeover of the squad, getting rid of ~15 players over two summers and replacing them with young, hungry kids (several from the Spurs youth academy) with 100% commitment to the team. The best example of this is Adebayor (by FAR the highest-paid Spurs player ever) being replaced by Harry Kane and exiled from the squad.

With virtually no net spend in the transfer market, Pochettino has assembled the youngest and fittest squad in the league, and next season should be even better. The only worry is that Poch himself might be a target for bigger clubs this summer.

The other secret is Hugo Lloris, who is unbelievable but will never get as much credit as Cech/de Gea/Courtois for some reason. Even Jack Butland is more hyped than poor Hugo now. Among Tottenham supporters he is a demigod at this point, with this moment against Watford his latest miracle.


I think you're giving very little to no credit to the absolutely phenomenal work Harry Redknapp and Tim Sherwood (as assistant) did for this club in establishing a solid footing. Also, here are the academy products you speak of that have played 10+ games in the first team: Danny Rose, Nabil Bentaleb, Ryan Mason, Harry Kane, Andros Townsend and Tom Carroll. Only one player from that list has a nailed down spot this season and I think you know who. I'll give u a hint, Tim Sherwood gave him his start and made him into a star (this time as coach). Without 'arry and the money he brought in I'm sure Tottenham would never be diddly squat!
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
December 30 2015 14:52 GMT
#4453
On December 30 2015 15:28 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 13:37 city42 wrote:
On December 30 2015 12:31 Boucot wrote:
On December 30 2015 10:14 city42 wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:21 Boucot wrote:
Do you believe Tottenham can be a contender for the title or will they not be able to keep this form for much longer ?

Sorry, missed this post. No chance for the title this season, but top 4 is very possible. If Levy backs Pochettino with a striker in January, then I think third place is attainable for Spurs, as Leicester's squad is paper thin. Ultimately, only Arsenal and Man City have the squad depth to win the PL this season.

Thank you, I don't know much about Tottenham so I was really interested to know from someone who does. And yeah, I think that Leicester won't be able to hold until the end, I expect them to explode physically in the next months. I hope not because the storyline is beautiful but I'm very worried. The way they play must be exhausting and they don't have a big bench.


I still think Leicester can hold onto 4th place, simply because Man Utd and Liverpool are the only other competitors and neither are playing well.

To give a bit more info on Tottenham: Pochettino deserves huge credit for this season. The Tottenham squad had become a complete mess in recent seasons, despite finishing 5th-6th. A number of players seemed to be happy living in London, earning PL-level wages, and getting by on 70% effort. Pochettino became the fourth manager in a little over 24 months, and the atmosphere around the club wasn't good, to say the least. He immediately began a total makeover of the squad, getting rid of ~15 players over two summers and replacing them with young, hungry kids (several from the Spurs youth academy) with 100% commitment to the team. The best example of this is Adebayor (by FAR the highest-paid Spurs player ever) being replaced by Harry Kane and exiled from the squad.

With virtually no net spend in the transfer market, Pochettino has assembled the youngest and fittest squad in the league, and next season should be even better. The only worry is that Poch himself might be a target for bigger clubs this summer.

The other secret is Hugo Lloris, who is unbelievable but will never get as much credit as Cech/de Gea/Courtois for some reason. Even Jack Butland is more hyped than poor Hugo now. Among Tottenham supporters he is a demigod at this point, with this moment against Watford his latest miracle.


I think you're giving very little to no credit to the absolutely phenomenal work Harry Redknapp and Tim Sherwood (as assistant) did for this club in establishing a solid footing. Also, here are the academy products you speak of that have played 10+ games in the first team: Danny Rose, Nabil Bentaleb, Ryan Mason, Harry Kane, Andros Townsend and Tom Carroll. Only one player from that list has a nailed down spot this season and I think you know who. I'll give u a hint, Tim Sherwood gave him his start and made him into a star (this time as coach). Without 'arry and the money he brought in I'm sure Tottenham would never be diddly squat!

Where to start?

-Harry Redknapp is a buffoon who has no interest in the long term. He leaves every club in a broken, bankrupt mess, with Tottenham the lone exception because of Daniel Levy. Redknapp didn't give any youth players a chance aside from the EL group stage when he openly admitted he was trying to get knocked out. On top of that, he had very little to do with assembling the squad and building a foundation. Martin Jol did much more for Spurs than HR in that regard. And what money did he bring in, exactly?

-Sherwood was a much smaller figure in the development of the youth academy than Inglethorp, McDermott, and Ramsey. The difference is that Sherwood has friends in the press who want you to know how amazing he is. My lasting memory of the Tim Sherwood era is starting at Anfield with a CM pairing of Bentaleb and Gylfi Sigurdsson, and Tim being perplexed at losing 4-0. His solution was to blame the players, as usual.

-AVB began integrating Kane into the first team two seasons ago. He also recognized Bentaleb's talent and had him on the bench shortly before being sacked. He gave Townsend a first team opportunity after Redknapp had loaned him out EIGHT times.

-Of the players you mentioned, Bentaleb and Mason were Spurs' starting CM pairing last season, and both have been injured for most of this campaign. Rose is Poch's first-choice left back when fit. Townsend was given his chance but it hasn't worked out. Poch is also integrating Onomah, Winks and CCV into the first team now, with more to follow.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 20:27:19
December 30 2015 20:24 GMT
#4454
So that is a penalty
streamable.com
And there is the "own" goal...
streamable.com
Spanish referees...
Also Rakitic - Paragon of fairplay
WhiZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden853 Posts
December 30 2015 22:15 GMT
#4455
that pen call is one of the worst calls ive ever seen... my god thats pathetic reffing
why
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
December 30 2015 22:28 GMT
#4456
Should have posted the RM penalties too. Pretty sure Benzema dive is way worse than Messi being trampled after the keeper deflects the ball.

But ey RM winning through bs pens is La Liga's bread and butter.
Revolutionist fan
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18575 Posts
December 30 2015 22:32 GMT
#4457
Real and Barca fans are so boring to listen to.
Complaints are literally identical with only player and club names being different...
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 30 2015 22:33 GMT
#4458
Haha yeah they are funny :3
All in all, La Liga refs are shit
Benzema call today was shocking and so was the Messi one, however BOTH of those penalties were missed so it wasn't as big anyway.
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2723 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 23:19:27
December 30 2015 23:10 GMT
#4459
Meh. I was very excited about watching La Liga at the end of the year (first time since 1990) but referees fucked it. In both matches Real Sociedad ("la real") and Betis were playing great before the ridiculous referee help.

I hope Atlético wins the league again.

Let's hope that tomorrow Valencia derby is awesome.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-31 00:17:37
December 30 2015 23:38 GMT
#4460
On December 31 2015 07:28 Salteador Neo wrote:
Should have posted the RM penalties too. Pretty sure Benzema dive is way worse than Messi being trampled after the keeper deflects the ball.

But ey RM winning through bs pens is La Liga's bread and butter.

Actually I posted this, because it's a SHOCKING example of terrible refing and bad understanding of the rules. The same way that people posted the 4 men offside in the Liverpool-Leicester game.
My "attack" was at the referee and not Messi or Barca. But hey, an angry response from Barca's fan is always a plus !
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