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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 18 2014 00:22 GMT
#1061
idk why the cavs are in a hurry to deal wiggins tho
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 18 2014 00:30 GMT
#1062
Because Kevin Love is at worst the 4th best player in the league and MVP level. He's a superstar.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 01:05:40
July 18 2014 01:03 GMT
#1063
4th best? At worst? ...

I hope you meant 4th best at his position. I think Blake Griffin, La Marcus Aldridge, Cousins, Anthony Davis, and Bosh would have something to say about that.
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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
July 18 2014 01:21 GMT
#1064
tmac just retired from baseball, morey, get it done, since this off season is all about family reunion
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 18 2014 01:22 GMT
#1065
i like love but until hes a 2 way player he isnt top 5 NBA
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 18 2014 01:53 GMT
#1066
So confused. Am I the only one thinking.... tmac only played 4 (?) Baseball games? How can you retire from something you've only been doing for 6 months. I feel like retiring from something intimates you've spent a career/long time doing it.


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GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
July 18 2014 01:58 GMT
#1067
Eric Bledsoe wants a 5 year $80 million dollar deal from the Suns.

I know the guy is good, but max contract good, really T_T
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
July 18 2014 01:59 GMT
#1068
On July 18 2014 10:58 GeneralStan wrote:
Eric Bledsoe wants a 5 year $80 million dollar deal from the Suns.

I know the guy is good, but max contract good, really T_T


i'd take lowry's contract any day
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 18 2014 02:54 GMT
#1069
On July 18 2014 10:03 Xeris wrote:
4th best? At worst? ...

I hope you meant 4th best at his position. I think Blake Griffin, La Marcus Aldridge, Cousins, Anthony Davis, and Bosh would have something to say about that.


Alridge isn't even in the discussion. Blake and Davis are close. Bosh too. Love is a hair below the Durant/CP3 level.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 18 2014 02:58 GMT
#1070
I think you guys underrate Love's offensive production, which is downright insane, no one on that list comes close to the scorer he is.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
July 18 2014 03:10 GMT
#1071
Who needs SFs or Cs, just play 3 PFs for those spots. I like the way the Lakers think.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 03:14:29
July 18 2014 03:11 GMT
#1072
On July 18 2014 11:58 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think you guys underrate Love's offensive production, which is downright insane, no one on that list comes close to the scorer he is.


you gotta define scorer here. are you talking about ppg or efg or what. hes definitely efficient.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 18 2014 03:22 GMT
#1073
On July 18 2014 11:54 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 10:03 Xeris wrote:
4th best? At worst? ...

I hope you meant 4th best at his position. I think Blake Griffin, La Marcus Aldridge, Cousins, Anthony Davis, and Bosh would have something to say about that.


Alridge isn't even in the discussion. Blake and Davis are close. Bosh too. Love is a hair below the Durant/CP3 level.


How is Aldridge not in the discussion? By what measure?

He's 23/11/3/1/1 ... Kevin Love 26/12.5/4.5/0.5/0.8. He's led his team to the playoffs, he's an all around player (good offensively and defensively). Kevin Love has more range and gets boards better but is a significantly worse defender, hasn't been to the playoffs ever. How can you possibly say that they're not in the discussion?

How are you saying he's a hair below the Durant/CP3 level. CP3 led his team to the playoffs, ditto with Durant, Aldridge, Bosh, everyone. The only one who hasn't (yet) is Anthony Davis, but he's only in his second year. And I'm not just saying this because these guys got to the playoffs and Love hasn't... but when you call him easily the 4th best player in the entire league, when by team performance and statistical measures he's comparable to 4-5 other people at his own position... I just don't get it.

Bosh, Griffin, Aldridge, Davis, Cousins, Love. That's 6 PF's who are on a pretty even playing field and I think aside from Davis who is the youngest/most potential, any of these 6 can be better than any other on any given night.

And then all 6 of these guys are below LeBron, Durant, and Chris Paul.

Call Love arguably a top 10 player in the NBA, sure. Easily 4th best, definitely not.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 18 2014 03:29 GMT
#1074
On July 18 2014 12:11 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 11:58 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think you guys underrate Love's offensive production, which is downright insane, no one on that list comes close to the scorer he is.


you gotta define scorer here. are you talking about ppg or efg or what. hes definitely efficient.


just his post up game, outside shooting, outlet passing, scoring off picknroll, stretching the floor, posting up, variety, etc, he does everything a power forward possibly can on offense.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 03:33:26
July 18 2014 03:31 GMT
#1075
Aldridge is a high usage poor scorer. He isn't in the discussion for anything near top of the league. While he's a plus defender, his rebounding didn't jump till Robin Lopez showed up. Love is historically good at both while also being a great post hub. Aldridge isn't close. If you want me to post real numbers instead of misleading raw averages I can do that for you.

Funny. Lamarcus Aldridge led his team to the playoffs? Could have sworn it was Batum and Matthews having historically good 3pt shooting seasons that turned them from terrible-not even close to making the playoffs into a seed. But I guess Aldridge just magically improved huh?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 18 2014 03:47 GMT
#1076
On July 18 2014 08:21 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 08:12 DystopiaX wrote:
The bulls are the favorites, Rose is healthy.


He was healthy at the start of last year, too. Everyone and their grandma called the Bulls favorites to win. Bill/Jalen predicted the Bulls to win the 2014 title, "Rose is healthy, Thibs is a god, everyone else on the team is gonna get better!!" They didn't even predict that Joakim Noah would make the leap he did. Point being, though, Rose got hurt after a few weeks and they were not the best team. After two years, you can't possibly mark the Bulls as the favorites until you see Rose play in NBA games the way he is capable of playing, without getting injured. Let Gasol play a season without missing 35 games to injury.


I was joking based on your last post.

It's been too long, I can't be that optimistic anymore. If Rose is healthy though I think we are the favorites to make it out of the East barring Wiggins being day 1 NBA ready/Love trade/all the Cavs rookies making a huge leap.

On July 18 2014 08:38 RowdierBob wrote:
Bulls still have no outside shooting. Teams just gonna sag the lanes on them all year.

Is mcbuckets gonna start?

And it's going to take rose time to find his way. I think he's gonna struggle this year.

Should still hit around 50 wins on their D alone but I think they'll struglle to get close to the one seed

Butler/Rose/Dunleavy/Mirotic/McDermott can all shoot the 3. Gibson/Pau and occasionally Noah have midrange shots. We're not the best outside shooting team but we're not the Grizz either.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13526 Posts
July 18 2014 03:57 GMT
#1077
Aldridge is sooo overrated. Ppeople need to look beyond his box scores.

It's Blake or Love for best PF. Davis will prob overtake them soon.

LMA isn't even top 5 imo:

Blake
Love
Dirk
Bosh
Davis.

All better at a mininun. You could even make a case for ibaka and cousins being better.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 18 2014 03:57 GMT
#1078
Funny the Suns won't offer Bledsoe the max, at least consider a sign and trade where they can get another center. But a backcourt of Dragic/IT2/Ennis/Bledsoe would be pretty crowded and only one of them can really play SG.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 18 2014 04:23 GMT
#1079
I think there's a better chance Rose has a healthy year than Varejao having a productive one.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 18 2014 04:37 GMT
#1080
The whole Bledsoe situation is just a mess. It's funny because he's at an impasse with Phoenix; and they said they would match any offer he gets. I doubt anyone is giving him the max, and he HAS to play somehwere next year. He'll stay with the Suns, most likely, unless they can sign and trade him.

It would be neat if LA could package nash and/or jeremy lin and sign/trade for Bledsoe. That would give Phoenix financial flexibility moving forward as well as give LA a piece it can use to improve now. Bledsoe/Kobe/Randle is a nice core; obviously with Bledsoe/Randle being pretty young. You could definitely start building something around that. Thoughts?
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