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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
May 06 2014 13:14 GMT
#16401
The same rule in Spain. For example, Barcelona B is 2nd now, they should be promoted to the first division, but they can't because Barcelona Main Sqad is already in that level. Most of the B teams of the first division are in the 3 or 4 level anyway, like in Germany.

I don't know why England fans hate this system so much, look at the Germany and Spain national teams.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-06 13:17:58
May 06 2014 13:15 GMT
#16402
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-06 13:30:29
May 06 2014 13:22 GMT
#16403
On May 06 2014 22:15 SatedSC2 wrote:
That league table is the saddest thing I have ever seen. I would rather see local clubs playing in the lower leagues; the incredible story of a club like Swansea climbing all the way up from the lower tiers mightn't happen if you have a "B" teams crushing everyone.

As for the argument that it helps clubs to improve players; there is very little difference between playing in a lower division with a "B" team and playing in a lower division on loan. Or playing in a "B" team against another "B" team. The major difference is the level of training facilities available whilst on loan, but that can be negated by providing proper support to players on loan and being selective in who you loan your players to etc.

It's a farce.


B teams doesn't crush everyone, must of the time they stay in the same division.

Last year:
4 teams that went from 2ºB to 2 division , neither were B teams.
18 teams that went from 3º to 2ºB division only 2 were B teams (Celta de VIgo B, Granada B), the other 16 were local teams. [and Zaragoza B, Rallo Vallecano B, Racing B, Osasuna B, Betis B were demoted from 2ºB to 3]

They are a minority, most of the powerful teams in this divisions are local A teams.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-06 13:32:09
May 06 2014 13:30 GMT
#16404
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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
May 06 2014 13:58 GMT
#16405
B teams are very legit (just like any other team) and help kids grow and learn to play vs great opposition. Barça B don't really top their league very often at all, they have even been demoted in the past.
Revolutionist fan
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 06 2014 14:13 GMT
#16406
On May 06 2014 19:18 bObaZ wrote:
In the Press, they are talking about a possible 25M€ Bid from Dortmund to buy Wilfred Bony, so they can replace lewandowski.

I would LOVE to see Bony on Dortmund.

He can become even more monstrous under Klopp and he can probably score as many goal as Lewandowski.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4019 Posts
May 06 2014 14:20 GMT
#16407
On May 06 2014 23:13 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 19:18 bObaZ wrote:
In the Press, they are talking about a possible 25M€ Bid from Dortmund to buy Wilfred Bony, so they can replace lewandowski.

I would LOVE to see Bony on Dortmund.

He can become even more monstrous under Klopp and he can probably score as many goal as Lewandowski.

Seriously, I've seen a lot of Bony in his Chelsea B days and I don't think he's any worse. He might even be better, 20 goals on an average team on his first season. Did you see those legs?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 06 2014 14:24 GMT
#16408
On May 06 2014 23:20 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 23:13 Mensol wrote:
On May 06 2014 19:18 bObaZ wrote:
In the Press, they are talking about a possible 25M€ Bid from Dortmund to buy Wilfred Bony, so they can replace lewandowski.

I would LOVE to see Bony on Dortmund.

He can become even more monstrous under Klopp and he can probably score as many goal as Lewandowski.

Seriously, I've seen a lot of Bony in his Chelsea B days and I don't think he's any worse. He might even be better, 20 goals on an average team on his first season. Did you see those legs?


He is literally a "mini" Drogba in terms of physique (aka not as tall) but just as strong, justs as quick and has everything. Shooting from anywhere and scoring. Beastly in the air.
It is quite crazy how Chelsea didn't take him, i have no idea. Some scouts are just terrible in England?
Wonder where he will go.
Ivory Coast found another beastly striker lol.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
seenster
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany385 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-06 15:13:12
May 06 2014 14:39 GMT
#16409
On May 06 2014 22:11 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
In Germany many teams have a second squad, usually playing 2-4 leagues below the main team.
Example : Regionalliga Bayern (regional league bavaria)
[image loading]

It is forbidden for both of them to play in the same league.

The rules state that there has to be two leagues difference between both teams. So the farthest you can get is first and thrid league.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-06 14:46:00
May 06 2014 14:43 GMT
#16410
On May 06 2014 23:24 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 23:20 aseq wrote:
On May 06 2014 23:13 Mensol wrote:
On May 06 2014 19:18 bObaZ wrote:
In the Press, they are talking about a possible 25M€ Bid from Dortmund to buy Wilfred Bony, so they can replace lewandowski.

I would LOVE to see Bony on Dortmund.

He can become even more monstrous under Klopp and he can probably score as many goal as Lewandowski.

Seriously, I've seen a lot of Bony in his Chelsea B days and I don't think he's any worse. He might even be better, 20 goals on an average team on his first season. Did you see those legs?


He is literally a "mini" Drogba in terms of physique (aka not as tall) but just as strong, justs as quick and has everything. Shooting from anywhere and scoring. Beastly in the air.
It is quite crazy how Chelsea didn't take him, i have no idea. Some scouts are just terrible in England?
Wonder where he will go.
Ivory Coast found another beastly striker lol.

He is "must sign" player for Arsenal if you ask me.

If Wenger not going to spend +60m on someone like Falcao/Costa, then he should sign Bony no matter what. He is much better than Giroud imo. Bony scored +15 goals with Swansea in this season, now imagine him in front of Özil, Cazorla and Ramsey :D

Still Bony would be sick on Dortmund too :D imagine him playing umschaltspiel along with Reus&co :3
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
May 06 2014 14:46 GMT
#16411
http://talksport.com/football/unbelievable-video-branislav-ivanovic-laughs-luis-suarez-crying-14050690034

LOL
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
May 06 2014 15:24 GMT
#16412
As far I know, Leverkusen II doesnt exist next year. Rudi Voeller said "It doesnt make sense anymore because only ~18yo players can break the line and play for Leverkusen A-team so that why we are dropping Leverkusen II". There is another german team who plays without B team next year and agrees Voeller's statement.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 06 2014 15:30 GMT
#16413
On May 06 2014 23:46 BeaTeR wrote:
http://talksport.com/football/unbelievable-video-branislav-ivanovic-laughs-luis-suarez-crying-14050690034

LOL


I need Zeo to translate this for us BeaTeR, seems a bit fishy to me that interview. Why the hell he even in Serbian shirt doing an interview for Serbian FA now for? They didn't qualify for the world cup nor do they play any games soon :s
Well they play in 20 days but still. Hmmm lol
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
May 06 2014 15:44 GMT
#16414
On May 07 2014 00:30 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 23:46 BeaTeR wrote:
http://talksport.com/football/unbelievable-video-branislav-ivanovic-laughs-luis-suarez-crying-14050690034

LOL


I need Zeo to translate this for us BeaTeR, seems a bit fishy to me that interview. Why the hell he even in Serbian shirt doing an interview for Serbian FA now for? They didn't qualify for the world cup nor do they play any games soon :s
Well they play in 20 days but still. Hmmm lol

agree
all this stuff is very suspicious, think it's just someone's joke
nevertheless video is quite funny
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-06 15:54:14
May 06 2014 15:52 GMT
#16415
why is this video supposed to be unbelievable
This is our town, scrub
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
May 06 2014 16:35 GMT
#16416
On May 06 2014 22:15 SatedSC2 wrote:
That league table is the saddest thing I have ever seen. I would rather see local clubs playing in the lower leagues and having a chance of making it big if they do well; the incredible story of a club like Swansea constantly climbing up and falling down amongst the lower tiers mightn't happen if you have a "B" teams crushing everyone.

As for the argument that it helps clubs to improve players, there is very little difference between playing in a lower division with a "B" team and playing in a lower division on loan. Or playing in a "B" team against another "B" team. The major difference is the level of training facilities available whilst on loan, but that can be negated by providing proper support to players on loan and being selective in who you loan your players to etc.

It's a farce. Not one single good argument for it.


A lot of "local clubs" dont want to get into 3rd league.

I personally live in Heimstetten (Ranked 14th hell yea!) and they spend 22 Million € (the "city", more a village helped) on their football complex. And it isn´t anything fancy it has 2 grass fields, one with around 50 roofed seats and on artificial turf field. Most clubs just cant affort that.

Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
May 06 2014 16:41 GMT
#16417
On May 07 2014 01:35 Micro_Jackson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 22:15 SatedSC2 wrote:
That league table is the saddest thing I have ever seen. I would rather see local clubs playing in the lower leagues and having a chance of making it big if they do well; the incredible story of a club like Swansea constantly climbing up and falling down amongst the lower tiers mightn't happen if you have a "B" teams crushing everyone.

As for the argument that it helps clubs to improve players, there is very little difference between playing in a lower division with a "B" team and playing in a lower division on loan. Or playing in a "B" team against another "B" team. The major difference is the level of training facilities available whilst on loan, but that can be negated by providing proper support to players on loan and being selective in who you loan your players to etc.

It's a farce. Not one single good argument for it.


A lot of "local clubs" dont want to get into 3rd league.

I personally live in Heimstetten (Ranked 14th hell yea!) and they spend 22 Million € (the "city", more a village helped) on their football complex. And it isn´t anything fancy it has 2 grass fields, one with around 50 roofed seats and on artificial turf field. Most clubs just cant affort that.


near aschaffenburg
This is our town, scrub
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-06 16:46:22
May 06 2014 16:45 GMT
#16418
On May 07 2014 00:52 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
why is this video supposed to be unbelievable


You think he would say that lol? Ivanovic go to an interview i was laughing at Gerrard and Suarez crying last night along with the other Chelsea players. Not winning the league at least we could laugh at that, etc?
Surely that isn't right XD

Also i mean the questions he was getting asked seemed more something you discuss with friends not with press from your own country XD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28899 Posts
May 06 2014 18:07 GMT
#16419
that video is obviously a joke, and it's funny. they just added fake subtitles..
Moderator
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 06 2014 18:31 GMT
#16420
Manchester United XI: De Gea Valencia Jones Smalling Büttner Carrick Fellaini Kagawa Januzaj Lawrence Wilson

subs: Amos Vidic M. Keane Mata Giggs Young Van Persie

go go Giggs :D
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
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