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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 23:53:35
August 10 2016 23:53 GMT
#27941
On August 11 2016 04:32 Numy wrote:
I haven't even entered the mine. Just starting up my farming empire now. I GOT A FREAKING KITTY NOW OMFG. He chills inside when it's raining. Think I can manage to do another field of crops with the energy I have. Trying to save up for animals. Really cute game man.

One question, if I just quit will it save or do I have to sleep to save?

Me and kdog played Terraria multiplayer like the entire evening
highlights include multiple "rescue missions" where we had to reclaim items we lost when we died (and dying tens of times in the process), me walking off into the desert, dying and then recruiting kdog to help me reclaim equipment, we both got rekt by the night super hard and killerdog building a rope to the core of the earth.
A surprisingly fun game.
¨
Also, fuck ice bats.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-11 00:12:50
August 11 2016 00:12 GMT
#27942
Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but a friend linked it to me. Anyone doing anything with Pokemon Uranium? Is it interesting?
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-11 04:21:41
August 11 2016 01:04 GMT
#27943
On August 11 2016 04:32 Numy wrote:
I haven't even entered the mine. Just starting up my farming empire now. I GOT A FREAKING KITTY NOW OMFG. He chills inside when it's raining. Think I can manage to do another field of crops with the energy I have. Trying to save up for animals. Really cute game man.

One question, if I just quit will it save or do I have to sleep to save?


It saves after you sleep every night, and only then. If you want to keep track of your farm over time, here's a good website to upload your saves:

http://upload.farm/

Here's my farm: http://upload.farm/1BtLc3

I'm waiting on the next patch so I can optimize my building placement, because I hate where I actually put them. Must... fix.

Also sort of spoilery about energy, but not really... + Show Spoiler +
You get stardews later that increase your maximum energy. A sauna also unlocks at some point, where you can sit in it and recharge
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 11 2016 02:29 GMT
#27944
Alaric you should read this article by Frank Karsten
Bit of an eye-opener

http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/a-pick-order-list-for-eldritch-moon-draft/
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 11 2016 03:45 GMT
#27945
Wall of text so spoiler tag.
+ Show Spoiler +
They say UG is hard to pull off properly, and RW may have overperformed because they get a bunch of good cards.

In a way, it looks to me like they benefitted from people realising UG is busted and gunning for it (as I said, Emerge only supports one drafter, if two people fight for it they should get mediocre decks at worst, but it'll be enough to stop the busted one save absurd opening RNG), while a bunch of people seem to consider W weak.
GW seems underestimated, RW is the most narrow archetype (in the sense that you don't have much variance in the type of deck; I could see BR madness/all-in aggro with furyblade for example, but also BR mono-removal with some big creatures like outcasts or Necropod to play a more control-ish style), UW is good and pretty consistent when you put it together but it doesn't seem that easy to do, and BW is the archetype with a million cool little synergies but not single big role-players to build around.

It seems that if people don't open Sigardian Priests / Choking Restraints (or in the case of the gambles, Faith Unbroken), they don't go for W so you can cash in on it later on (or if you open them yourself).
On the other hand, open a good Emerge creature or see a couple role-players like Emissary or Gryff in your early picks and you want to go into Emerge since it's the best archetype, which depletes the pool pretty fast.

Ironically, I think that Emerge matches up against Boros well because tempo plays like bounces can cancel your tricks well and, as they mentioned, if you rely on tricks you can have explosive starts but your creatures won't match up well with your opponents. You also don't have that much Trample going on to push damage sadly. And Emerge cancels out your Choking Restraints (Sigardian Priests tend to do fucking work in that match-up tho, I'll admit I've never been the one to draft 2+ of them).
If you're not at the stage where you'll only looking for a hasty threat, trample trick or player burn to finish the job by turn 5-6, you've probably lost. I guess it depends on whether you or the guy who'll go UR open the burn, and whether it'll make him pick up the tempo cards to take them away from the Emerge drafter.

Frankly I've noticed that RW done properly with a curve-out and stuff looks really scary, and I'd like drafting it more to test but I'm uncomfortable with aggro. It certainly seems to have higher potential than GW at least, which is easier to get a decent deck with, but a much lower ceiling.
I also haven't drafted B much, or with R and I dislike it (I feel like it drafts miserably (as opposed to play; just putting the deck together)).
I'd really like to put together a recursion deck, whether it's UB or BG—tho again, my local meta has a U fan, friday's got a guy who seems to either always open crazy U bombs and/or love UB and force it anyway, and another one has noticed the strength of UG so he'll easily go into it, which makes drafting U kinda hard as the good cards dry up super fast.

I think I'd like to get at least one decent+ / good BG deck though, with Grapples and a bunch of removal and some decent creatures to recur and stuff. I understand the power of filling your yard if your bigger value is in your creatures (since you can't recur sorceries/enchants) and using it as an additional hand, balancing the amount of recursion compared to threats and non-fetchable cards (like tricks or removal) however is much harder for me because of my lack of practical experience. I think I should force myself to hop on xmage and try forcing the archetype (not to do well, just to get a generic feel for it, and cards which seem like they can be signals in the archetype 'cause Murder is just generically good) rather then watch TI vods, so I raise my chances to get into that deck at least once.

Overall I still think UG's consistency and crazy ceiling makes it the most powerful archetype, but players looking to force UR (which is a lot funnier to play, even if it can explode in your face) or the fact that U's usually a better support colour and dries up quickly magnify the "only supports one person" weakness.
I also believe it'll correct itself as people realise blindly forcing it won't work and branch out more into RW or even RG (and UR will become the "forced way too hard/often" achetype), freeing up space for somebody to get into Emerge more reliably. People are greedily skipping 2-drops and stuff because LSV and Marshal said it was 'k so if RW gets success because of it, I expect people to become more reasonable too.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-11 03:56:20
August 11 2016 03:48 GMT
#27946
On the other hand, open a good Emerge creature or see a couple role-players like Emissary or Gryff in your early picks and you want to go into Emerge since it's the best archetype, which depletes the pool pretty fast.

The good emerge cards are still decent hardcast bombs, and are colorless, to begin with so there's basically no risk in picking a Gryff if you're not in the deck, because even if you don't end up in the emerge deck (or even in blue for that matter), it's not unplayable. Gryff with no emerge is still be a completely fine card to put in most decks, and decks that are blue can still emerge it with regular creatures.

That's what I was saying about UG being a low-risk synergy deck. "Trying" to get into UG basically risks nothing because the best synergy cards are also completely playable outside of the deck. When you get there you're doing broken things, and when you don't you still have the option to pivot because hardcasting Wretched Gryffs and Vedalken DismissersLashweed Lurkers isn't embarrassing.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 11 2016 05:06 GMT
#27947
I don't do this often, but I played like a BEAST with sung moon on Reinhardt today. Called a potg right after it happened.


+ Show Spoiler +

I think my favourite is how the Rein quote ends up over the logo. So sweet.
I know it's not that impressive and that the quality is bad (I'll fix OBS settings for next time) but IM STILL PROUD DAMN IT I'M ONLY RANK 34
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 11 2016 05:06 GMT
#27948
Video is private.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 11 2016 05:20 GMT
#27949
Should be fixed now. Don't know why it did that after I specifically changed it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 11 2016 09:01 GMT
#27950
On August 11 2016 08:53 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 04:32 Numy wrote:
I haven't even entered the mine. Just starting up my farming empire now. I GOT A FREAKING KITTY NOW OMFG. He chills inside when it's raining. Think I can manage to do another field of crops with the energy I have. Trying to save up for animals. Really cute game man.

One question, if I just quit will it save or do I have to sleep to save?

Me and kdog played Terraria multiplayer like the entire evening
highlights include multiple "rescue missions" where we had to reclaim items we lost when we died (and dying tens of times in the process), me walking off into the desert, dying and then recruiting kdog to help me reclaim equipment, we both got rekt by the night super hard and killerdog building a rope to the core of the earth.
A surprisingly fun game.
¨
Also, fuck ice bats.

That's awesome. I was talking to my brother who loves Terraria, told me he bought it on a friday then just became a hermit the whole weekend. These games just warp time. So cool.

I've never actually played multiplayer Terraria, only played the game a bit when it came out. Heard tons of additions were made. Maybe I should take a look at it again...
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 11 2016 09:23 GMT
#27951
On August 11 2016 18:01 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 08:53 Scip wrote:
On August 11 2016 04:32 Numy wrote:
I haven't even entered the mine. Just starting up my farming empire now. I GOT A FREAKING KITTY NOW OMFG. He chills inside when it's raining. Think I can manage to do another field of crops with the energy I have. Trying to save up for animals. Really cute game man.

One question, if I just quit will it save or do I have to sleep to save?

Me and kdog played Terraria multiplayer like the entire evening
highlights include multiple "rescue missions" where we had to reclaim items we lost when we died (and dying tens of times in the process), me walking off into the desert, dying and then recruiting kdog to help me reclaim equipment, we both got rekt by the night super hard and killerdog building a rope to the core of the earth.
A surprisingly fun game.
¨
Also, fuck ice bats.

That's awesome. I was talking to my brother who loves Terraria, told me he bought it on a friday then just became a hermit the whole weekend. These games just warp time. So cool.

I've never actually played multiplayer Terraria, only played the game a bit when it came out. Heard tons of additions were made. Maybe I should take a look at it again...

I don't think single player is going to be that fun but multiplayer is surprisingly great
and I say that as a person who looks down upon the minecraft kids as the lowest form of pleb life on earth
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-11 12:10:45
August 11 2016 12:09 GMT
#27952
On August 11 2016 10:04 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 04:32 Numy wrote:
I haven't even entered the mine. Just starting up my farming empire now. I GOT A FREAKING KITTY NOW OMFG. He chills inside when it's raining. Think I can manage to do another field of crops with the energy I have. Trying to save up for animals. Really cute game man.

One question, if I just quit will it save or do I have to sleep to save?


It saves after you sleep every night, and only then. If you want to keep track of your farm over time, here's a good website to upload your saves:

http://upload.farm/

Here's my farm: http://upload.farm/1BtLc3

I'm waiting on the next patch so I can optimize my building placement, because I hate where I actually put them. Must... fix.

Also sort of spoilery about energy, but not really... + Show Spoiler +
You get stardews later that increase your maximum energy. A sauna also unlocks at some point, where you can sit in it and recharge

Hi5 for choice of girl :D

Also nice job wave, got to love it when they line em up for you. Time to buy a Rein skin imo
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-11 12:41:55
August 11 2016 12:26 GMT
#27953
On August 11 2016 18:23 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 18:01 Numy wrote:
On August 11 2016 08:53 Scip wrote:
On August 11 2016 04:32 Numy wrote:
I haven't even entered the mine. Just starting up my farming empire now. I GOT A FREAKING KITTY NOW OMFG. He chills inside when it's raining. Think I can manage to do another field of crops with the energy I have. Trying to save up for animals. Really cute game man.

One question, if I just quit will it save or do I have to sleep to save?

Me and kdog played Terraria multiplayer like the entire evening
highlights include multiple "rescue missions" where we had to reclaim items we lost when we died (and dying tens of times in the process), me walking off into the desert, dying and then recruiting kdog to help me reclaim equipment, we both got rekt by the night super hard and killerdog building a rope to the core of the earth.
A surprisingly fun game.
¨
Also, fuck ice bats.

That's awesome. I was talking to my brother who loves Terraria, told me he bought it on a friday then just became a hermit the whole weekend. These games just warp time. So cool.

I've never actually played multiplayer Terraria, only played the game a bit when it came out. Heard tons of additions were made. Maybe I should take a look at it again...

I don't think single player is going to be that fun but multiplayer is surprisingly great
and I say that as a person who looks down upon the minecraft kids as the lowest form of pleb life on earth

You should try multiplayer Space Engineers, the galatic warfare, planetary bombing and intergalactic ballistic missiles you can pull off in lategame PvP is simply the definition of epic. Surviving the early game is pretty rough if you spawn close to merciless dicks.

Co-op on a private server is pretty fun too, but the PvP aspect in mid/late game is glorious. It's in a galatic scale worldspace with planets, moons, astroids etc. Single player is actually surprisingly good too, there's AI control enemies and meteor storms you have to respect.

For people who haven't tried it or dont know it. It's basically a very very very advanced minecraft where you can build pretty much whatever you think up. Our greatest moment was a revenge attack where after they destroyed our spacefleet we found their underground main base and mined a looooong tunnel to their base and snuck in an armada of nuke carrying drones and blew it up from the inside.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 11 2016 13:23 GMT
#27954
On August 11 2016 14:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't do this often, but I played like a BEAST with sung moon on Reinhardt today. Called a potg right after it happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcSiTp2iojw
+ Show Spoiler +

I think my favourite is how the Rein quote ends up over the logo. So sweet.
I know it's not that impressive and that the quality is bad (I'll fix OBS settings for next time) but IM STILL PROUD DAMN IT I'M ONLY RANK 34

Daaaang son that was pretty good no matter your rank.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 11 2016 13:23 GMT
#27955
On August 11 2016 12:48 TheYango wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [mtg stuff] +
On the other hand, open a good Emerge creature or see a couple role-players like Emissary or Gryff in your early picks and you want to go into Emerge since it's the best archetype, which depletes the pool pretty fast.

The good emerge cards are still decent hardcast bombs, and are colorless, to begin with so there's basically no risk in picking a Gryff if you're not in the deck, because even if you don't end up in the emerge deck (or even in blue for that matter), it's not unplayable. Gryff with no emerge is still be a completely fine card to put in most decks, and decks that are blue can still emerge it with regular creatures.

That's what I was saying about UG being a low-risk synergy deck. "Trying" to get into UG basically risks nothing because the best synergy cards are also completely playable outside of the deck. When you get there you're doing broken things, and when you don't you still have the option to pivot because hardcasting Wretched Gryffs and Vedalken DismissersLashweed Lurkers isn't embarrassing.


Eh, is the format really slow enough in your experience to hardcast 7-8 CMC spells that don't impact the board all that much (Spreading Flames is already seen as less good in draft and it basically kills their biggest thing or ruins a wide board), rather than cast a couple spells/tricks/etc. that turn?
Out of curiosity which archetypes did you usually face/end into? I know with 17 lands I've sometimes had issues hitting my 6th or even 5th land drop while maintaining a decent curve (kinda what destroyed me last draft for example, because I couldn't hold up Priest mana and/or equip staff/cast Lunarch Mantle while still playing one of my creatures post-bounce).

I rarely went up to 6+ mana in my decks unless it was to play a Swine or something that can beat the 4/4s of the format (they're clearly the barrier between "standard drop" and "big creature" stat-wise), while I was glad to play 2 Outcasts, who still ended up trading or eating a couple things most of the time, without transforming. Most of my really slow games were either because I was on the backfoot (like the UW light on removal vs BR with plenty of burn and turn 4 Bloodhall Priest each game, that came down to me having mana for shepherd bounce + apothecary each turn), or because my opponent was deliberately slow (both UB decks, mostly due to Lancers/Ulrich being pretty scary).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
August 11 2016 13:38 GMT
#27956
On August 11 2016 21:09 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 10:04 zer0das wrote:
On August 11 2016 04:32 Numy wrote:
I haven't even entered the mine. Just starting up my farming empire now. I GOT A FREAKING KITTY NOW OMFG. He chills inside when it's raining. Think I can manage to do another field of crops with the energy I have. Trying to save up for animals. Really cute game man.

One question, if I just quit will it save or do I have to sleep to save?


It saves after you sleep every night, and only then. If you want to keep track of your farm over time, here's a good website to upload your saves:

http://upload.farm/

Here's my farm: http://upload.farm/1BtLc3

I'm waiting on the next patch so I can optimize my building placement, because I hate where I actually put them. Must... fix.

Also sort of spoilery about energy, but not really... + Show Spoiler +
You get stardews later that increase your maximum energy. A sauna also unlocks at some point, where you can sit in it and recharge

Hi5 for choice of girl :D

Also nice job wave, got to love it when they line em up for you. Time to buy a Rein skin imo

Zorian is married to Leah, has a 67 day old son named Edmund and a 1 day old daughter named Saskia,

wut
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-11 18:31:11
August 11 2016 13:46 GMT
#27957
I missed some important details >.> sorry
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 11 2016 13:52 GMT
#27958
Isn't the wooing done if you're already married?

Also Wave you're clearly a scrub, gotta kill all of them yourself, not just half!
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-11 18:31:31
August 11 2016 13:59 GMT
#27959
On August 11 2016 22:52 Alaric wrote:
Isn't the wooing done if you're already married?

Also Wave you're clearly a scrub, gotta kill all of them yourself, not just half!

A) it shouldn't be
B) zer0 is 3 years ahead of me in the game
(sorry)
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 11 2016 14:02 GMT
#27960
Anyone going to LoL quarterfinals in Chicago? I'm picking up some resale tickets but I'm not sure which days to look at. Will probably only get one day (because resale prices) and final day makes the most sense, I guess.
It's your boy Guzma!
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