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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 23 2016 17:38 GMT
#27321
why wouldnt it be
its just louder mainly
theres some detail-stuff too but you'll more likely recognize it by the volume

shouting is usually easier than figuring out if something is a question because being loud is always pretty fucking obvious
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2016 17:42 GMT
#27322
Learning Chinese is hard. I gave up.
It's your boy Guzma!
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 23 2016 18:21 GMT
#27323
On July 24 2016 01:24 red_ wrote:
Even a fresh stick figure of a beginner is going to want to get in like 150g of protein, which you're not getting if one of your meals is some oatmeal and almonds and one egg for 'oomph.'

Maybe we mean beginner differently or are imagining people with different goals, but I highly disagree with much of what you've written so far other than the fact that much of this endeavor is in building solid routines that make it far easier to stick to instead of essentially ad-libbing your meals all the time.

As for the other related discussion, I don't think I would ever tell anyone to eat 1k over maintenance (unless they're doing something weird like not considering their activity level as part of their maintenance calories.), that's a good way to get fat quick. Also also, it's likely that you have never known anyone that is 6% bodyfat in your life, sub 10% is very lean. Plenty of skinny kids are like 15% or higher even, it's the entire reason the label 'skinny fat' became a thing.

If you cant gain 150g of protein from daily meals you pretty much have to be a vegan that for some reason refuse to eat beans, seeds, lentils and nuts. As long as you just dont eat trash food like white bread gaining the required amount of proteins for a beginner is trivial. There's protein in nearly everything, even a smidge in a cup of coffee, it's much easier to gain than what whey producers want you to think. The black bread I'm eating is 17g protein per 100g for instance, just a couple of slices is nearly a third of it.

By beginner I'm thinking someone who has only just recently starting working out.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 19:47:20
July 23 2016 19:44 GMT
#27324
The thing that doesn't work so well in Chinese, that I heard anyway, is singing. For obvious reasons.

On July 22 2016 09:29 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 03:47 phyvo wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:45 killerdog wrote:
There are some amazing niche sports in the world


Seemed interesting, but it turned into funny as soon as I noticed the LOTR music in the background during the round 1 replay.

That was the moment i decided it was amazing :p

I saw another match which was Japan vs Germany, they were playing eye of the tiger in the warmup and a few of the japanese team were wearing samurai costumes/oni masks


I didn't mean to say it in a "aha this is whole deal is terrible" kind of way, it's just that when I see a bunch of people in armor hitting each other with swords I expect the background music to be a renaissance fair kind of deal where they use actual music from the era. LOTR just seems so out of place given that movie fighting is a lot more fast-paced and has a lot more decapitations. It is probably a lot more exciting than normal medieval pling-plong, but old music is actually leaves a surprising amount to interpretation (because of the way they recorded it) so I'm sure they could speed it up for a modern audience. Would be interesting to hear, anyway.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
July 23 2016 19:49 GMT
#27325
On July 24 2016 03:21 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 01:24 red_ wrote:
Even a fresh stick figure of a beginner is going to want to get in like 150g of protein, which you're not getting if one of your meals is some oatmeal and almonds and one egg for 'oomph.'

Maybe we mean beginner differently or are imagining people with different goals, but I highly disagree with much of what you've written so far other than the fact that much of this endeavor is in building solid routines that make it far easier to stick to instead of essentially ad-libbing your meals all the time.

As for the other related discussion, I don't think I would ever tell anyone to eat 1k over maintenance (unless they're doing something weird like not considering their activity level as part of their maintenance calories.), that's a good way to get fat quick. Also also, it's likely that you have never known anyone that is 6% bodyfat in your life, sub 10% is very lean. Plenty of skinny kids are like 15% or higher even, it's the entire reason the label 'skinny fat' became a thing.

If you cant gain 150g of protein from daily meals you pretty much have to be a vegan that for some reason refuse to eat beans, seeds, lentils and nuts. As long as you just dont eat trash food like white bread gaining the required amount of proteins for a beginner is trivial. There's protein in nearly everything, even a smidge in a cup of coffee, it's much easier to gain than what whey producers want you to think. The black bread I'm eating is 17g protein per 100g for instance, just a couple of slices is nearly a third of it.

By beginner I'm thinking someone who has only just recently starting working out.


Half a pound of lean beef is like 40 grams, half a pound of chicken about the same, 6 whole eggs also about the same... Most people are not eating that amount of these foods four times a day, I would know because I have been training people as a side job for several years now, and even my primary job as a DPT I work with dietitians and my clients to make sure they're eating well to facilitate recovery. Even just one shake taking the heavy requirements out of one meal a day is a godsend to most people.

In a perfect world maybe people would 'just eat better' and get their macros in without supplementation but it doesn't work out that way in my experience for the majority. You can buy good quality whey for like $10-12/lb, that's actually really comparative cost wise to most any protein source except chicken breast but requires no prep time and comes with only trace amounts of the other macros which also allows you to fit any meal you make with it to your diet. Need carbs? Mix it with berries or make protein oatmeal. Need fat? Mix with peanut butter or coconut oil or something. It's a complete diet saver.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 23 2016 20:01 GMT
#27326
On July 24 2016 04:44 phyvo wrote:
The thing that doesn't work so well in Chinese, that I heard anyway, is singing. For obvious reasons.

i mean singing works, its just different
what doesnt work is rhyming so singing (and poetry etc) is a lot about the tonal flow and shit like that

unless you heard that from someone who saw chinese opera, in which case, there are no redeeming qualities and i concur
A backwards poet writes inverse.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 20:23:34
July 23 2016 20:22 GMT
#27327
He spent a great deal of time in China, actually, and certainly had been there long enough to see a lot more than opera. But it was a conversation from maybe 8 years ago so I probably lost most of the finer details. I think the point is that you can't really sing western music in Chinese and be understood by Chinese people unless you change the music too to accommodate the language. Is that right?
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 23 2016 20:37 GMT
#27328
yes that's correct, just like singing chinese songs in english is gonna sound like shitty glibberish
that doesn't mean singing doesnt work, only that singing western songs doesn't work.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 21:26:33
July 23 2016 21:22 GMT
#27329
When the season starts again i'm doing Judo three times a week, (monday + wednesday 2 hours of hard training, basically no pauses except when you start to feel dizzy, saturday just lighter technique stuff.) Then some running and dumbbell training + bodyweight stuff whatever days my arms/back aren't completely broken.

Did that for like two months and my weight stayed literally constant at ~74kg (194cm) for the whole two months from late april to early june. While eating 3k+ calories a day, which was physically difficult for me, with tons of protein. I felt stronger but I'd gained like zero mass, and no noticeable drop on bodyfat and no real body shape changes.

Then I go to england for a few weeks, no training at all and eating like <2k calories a day, and I gain 4kg of pure fat >.>

I don't understand :<

Ideally my long term goal is 80-81kg with as much muscle in there as possible, as that's the cutoff for medium weight in competition. I don't really need to care about that for like a year or so, Just an idea of what I'm aiming for. But it feels physically impossible to put on any muscle mass :<
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 21:58:09
July 23 2016 21:46 GMT
#27330
>gain 4kg of pure fat in 2 weeks
>less than 2k calories a day

nice memes

idk I've probably just been pretty lucky when I wanted to put on weight I just focused on eating a ton and it worked and then I played some videogames (=forget to eat) and lost it so my weight has historically been nicely mobile.

Huh, looking at weight classes, I guess 70 kg for featherweight sounds about right for me, Im like 175ish cm.

although it'd be nice to match kdog weight, I am probably too short for it to be workable in any way without heavy steroid use.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 22:07:29
July 23 2016 22:07 GMT
#27331
Wait, scip is a manlet?
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 22:25:51
July 23 2016 22:25 GMT
#27332
On July 24 2016 07:07 Eppa! wrote:
Wait, scip is a manlet?

Courtesy of reddit
+ Show Spoiler +
maybe 4chan idk+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Not even a manlet
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 22:42:06
July 23 2016 22:41 GMT
#27333
I'm 177cm or so and 86kg, and I guess you are just taking my word for it but the only thing I've ever used that would be a banned substance today(although not at the time) is pre-workout products that had DMAA in it, which isn't even a pro hormone, it's closer to an amphetamine.

You can definitely get to kdog's weight with good old fashioned time and effort.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 23:23:43
July 23 2016 23:06 GMT
#27334
On July 24 2016 06:46 Scip wrote:
>gain 4kg of pure fat in 2 weeks
>less than 2k calories a day

nice memes

idk I've probably just been pretty lucky when I wanted to put on weight I just focused on eating a ton and it worked and then I played some videogames (=forget to eat) and lost it so my weight has historically been nicely mobile.

Huh, looking at weight classes, I guess 70 kg for featherweight sounds about right for me, Im like 175ish cm.

although it'd be nice to match kdog weight, I am probably too short for it to be workable in any way without heavy steroid use.

I srsly have no idea how... I was eating like 1-2 meals a day and no snacking lol

Was very surprised.

However much I was eating it was exponentially less than what i'd been eating the weeks before
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 23 2016 23:22 GMT
#27335
On July 24 2016 07:41 red_ wrote:
I'm 177cm or so and 86kg, and I guess you are just taking my word for it but the only thing I've ever used that would be a banned substance today(although not at the time) is pre-workout products that had DMAA in it, which isn't even a pro hormone, it's closer to an amphetamine.

You can definitely get to kdog's weight with good old fashioned time and effort.

Yeah, I mean in a reasonable timeframe and with reasonable amount of effort. I imagine you worked pretty fking hard to get to that kind of physique
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 23 2016 23:30 GMT
#27336
On July 24 2016 08:06 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 06:46 Scip wrote:
>gain 4kg of pure fat in 2 weeks
>less than 2k calories a day

nice memes

idk I've probably just been pretty lucky when I wanted to put on weight I just focused on eating a ton and it worked and then I played some videogames (=forget to eat) and lost it so my weight has historically been nicely mobile.

Huh, looking at weight classes, I guess 70 kg for featherweight sounds about right for me, Im like 175ish cm.

although it'd be nice to match kdog weight, I am probably too short for it to be workable in any way without heavy steroid use.

I srsly have no idea how... I was eating like 1-2 meals a day and no snacking lol

Was very surprised.

However much I was eating it was exponentially less than what i'd been eating the weeks before

Sure it was fat and not just water? Wouldn't 4kg fat in that short time leave stretch marks. oO
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
July 23 2016 23:38 GMT
#27337
On July 24 2016 07:25 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 07:07 Eppa! wrote:
Wait, scip is a manlet?

Courtesy of reddit
+ Show Spoiler +
maybe 4chan idk+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Not even a manlet

175 is 5'9 right?
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 23 2016 23:48 GMT
#27338
On July 24 2016 08:38 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 07:25 Scip wrote:
On July 24 2016 07:07 Eppa! wrote:
Wait, scip is a manlet?

Courtesy of reddit
+ Show Spoiler +
maybe 4chan idk+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Not even a manlet

175 is 5'9 right?

Just shy of it.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
July 23 2016 23:57 GMT
#27339
On July 24 2016 08:30 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 08:06 killerdog wrote:
On July 24 2016 06:46 Scip wrote:
>gain 4kg of pure fat in 2 weeks
>less than 2k calories a day

nice memes

idk I've probably just been pretty lucky when I wanted to put on weight I just focused on eating a ton and it worked and then I played some videogames (=forget to eat) and lost it so my weight has historically been nicely mobile.

Huh, looking at weight classes, I guess 70 kg for featherweight sounds about right for me, Im like 175ish cm.

although it'd be nice to match kdog weight, I am probably too short for it to be workable in any way without heavy steroid use.

I srsly have no idea how... I was eating like 1-2 meals a day and no snacking lol

Was very surprised.

However much I was eating it was exponentially less than what i'd been eating the weeks before

Sure it was fat and not just water? Wouldn't 4kg fat in that short time leave stretch marks. oO

Dunno, 74 to 78.5 in like 20 days.

Now a few weeks later it's dropped back to like 76. These things never make sense
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
July 23 2016 23:58 GMT
#27340
Holy shit, Bojack season 3 is incredibly smart. Very varied and creative storytelling ideas, lots of subtlety and incredible ending to every single episode. The amount of writing, voice acting, storyboarding and directing talent that worked on this show is a wonder.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
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