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Sunaj
Canada2041 Posts
On March 27 2015 09:55 Cixah wrote: Someone ordered 50 cheese pizzas on a card and had them delivered here to my office. I now have 50 cheese pizzas. I like pizza. gibe pls. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On March 27 2015 09:45 Lord Tolkien wrote: FINE, ill try and get on in like 1.25 hours Its not like i enjoyed getting smashed at the russian embassy anyways if you got smashed with russians you should be dead by now dead i say russians should know how to drink | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On March 27 2015 10:11 Dandel Ion wrote: if you got smashed with russians you should be dead by now dead i say russians should know how to drink Lies, i have asian genes, asians are legendary for their ability to hold their liquor | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
maybe it was the chinese one instead you can never tell with those commies although i must say once in my life ive actually lost a drinking contest agaist a chinese so there's actually like a 1/1000 chance that you can drink despite your eyes | ||
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crimethinking
Vietnam765 Posts
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Ethelis
United States2400 Posts
On March 27 2015 10:09 Lord Tolkien wrote: Well, is ketarah doing anything? I told him days in advance i would be involved in pro putin shit tonight and he agreed to org this shit so... He's not even on League. Unless he removed me  | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On March 27 2015 10:20 Ethelis wrote: He's not even on League. Unless he removed me :gordonramsay: | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Ethelis
United States2400 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On March 27 2015 10:20 Ethelis wrote: He's not even on League. Unless he removed me Yeah I'm not at home, I had shit come up. I will make sure there are games next week. | ||
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MagnusWolf
United States483 Posts
On March 27 2015 10:19 crimethinking wrote: I'm watching Goal 2. Okay movie for entertainment purpose, 6/10 I thought. At the end of the movie Arsenal got into Champions League final. Fuck you 1/10 worst movie ever, that's fiction but too fictional to be in a movie. Quoted for truth | ||
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Sunaj
Canada2041 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On March 27 2015 11:03 Ketara wrote: Yeah I'm not at home, I had shit come up. I will make sure there are games next week. y u no tell me earlier or outsource to some mexican like a real american? | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On March 27 2015 11:24 Ketara wrote: Because this came up literally yesterday lol. just make jerf or scrip do it, or alterkot, poles are the mexicans of euroland rite? dangit, i knew i should've put marmy in charge | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On March 27 2015 02:15 Frudgey wrote: Also I had a serious, if a bit personal question for Soniv. (Anyone can answer though!) So I understand that you have a Math degree. But how did you transition from university to finding a job? Was it hard? Did you use connections? What did you do? I'm just asking because I'm curious. After this semester I have one more year of university left and I've been thinking about this for a bit. Real talk with MoonBear 2: Electric Boogaloo: The Sequel If you don't want to read a wall of text, the TLDR is that maths + philo is a great combination that lets you do loads of stuff because it means you can think critically, are comfortable with numbers, and have a big toolbox of skills. This answer is somewhat nuanced. And I can't think of a good way to organise my thoughts on the matter so I'm just going to stream of consciousness in this post. I apologise in advance if it's hard to follow. There are also a lot of footnotes because I'm just that kind of person. I've put a TLDR at the top if you just need a low down to give yourself comfort that your decision to do a mathematics degree isn't a waste of your life compared to getting your liberal arts degree which unlocks a job working at McDonalds. (1) For most jobs nowadays, the actual degree you do is not actually that important. (2) For a recent graduate out of university, the most important thing for most employer is that you're not a complete idiot. Very few graduates straight out of tertiary educations are a perfect fit for a job. This is mainly because there's a lot of stuff you just won't have experienced or learned about. Let's say little Timmy has studied a marketing degree and is about to get a job at an advertising company. Sounds like a perfect fit in theory. But there's a lot of things that Timmy has never done before. (3) And that means the advertising company is going to need to spend time and resources training Timmy on the job. So if the company is going to be training Timmy on the job it wants to make sure it hires the best Timmy it can. And that also means the advertising company needs to be willing to look beyond just marketing students cause I mean, hey, you're going to be training people on the job anyway right? Spending a little bit more time on a new hire who clearly has way more potential than someone who's learn the marketing basics but will only ever be average just makes sense. It's good for the company because they get top notch employees, and it's also good for the employee because the learn and develop. Now, this isn't always the case. For example, some companies have terrible HR so they don't know how to hire people right. Or they have really old-fashioned mindsets and only insist on hiring people who fit their ideal image rather than trying to hire the actual ideal person. Or maybe they don't have the time and resources to train people on the job and they just want someone straight out of education to just come in and start doing grunt work. And that's a very fair point. These companies do exist. However, would you want to work at any of these companies? I assume the answer to this question is no. If you had a choice, you would want to work for that firm which does the right thing, wants to hire the best, and then spend time and resources training them and making them better. And if you're aiming to get hired by these companies, then the problem of "did I study the right degree at university?" should not be what keeps you awake at night. (4) Let's look at this from the employer's perspective. Their main goal for hiring new university graduates is "I want to hire someone who has potential and I am happy to spend my resources on". So what you want to be doing is the metaphorical equivalent of a giant neon sign flashing above your head saying "MORE POTENTIAL THAN CLG AND WON'T ACTUALLY DISAPPOINT YOU OR GIVE YOU UP OR LET YOU DOWN". (5) If you've studied economics you might recognise this as being a signalling problem. Basically, you're trying to signal to employers that you deserve to get a job. But there are a lot of other people trying to signal that as well. How do you stand out in convincing way that can convince people they should hire you? A good signal is one that is hard to replicate. So that leads to a few obvious things...
So if you're approaching the point at which you're thinking about looking for a job, think about what sort of stuff will be on your CV. You want things that will show off the qualities you think your potential employer cares about. Are you going to work in the services industry where you have to deal with lots of people on a daily basis? Something that shows you can get along with people even if they're different from you is good. Working in a back-office job like IT? Get a GitHub account and throw in some projects there which shows off your analytical understanding and the fact you can code elegantly. (6) Ok I am now going off on a huge tangent here and this is kinda generic career advice you can probably get anywhere (maybe?) so I'm going to stop here and change topic. Your question is more specific about having a major in mathematics and a minor in philosophy and careers from that. You've got several key advantages as a mathematics major and philosophy minor you should be using to your advantage. For example, you have analytical skills. Maths and philosophy often give you a problem where you need to stop and think about it for a while before you do anything. Maybe you need to think logically and rationally to break it down into smaller pieces to make it easier. Maybe you spot that it's similar to a previously solved problem and you can use that knowledge to make things easier. Maybe you know that if one approach isn't working you should just stop and try something else rather than just give up. These are all really strong skills to have. I have noticed that at work people who have done analytical degrees are better at solving problems they come across because they already have a toolkit of techniques they can rely on. (7) Another key advantage is numerical proficiency. Sure, in a mathematical degree most of what you do is abstract or you rely on your super expensive calculator/software to solve problems. But it's more the fact you're comfortable with numbers and don't feel scared about it. If I tell you how to calculate business efficiency metrics, or sampling techniques used in quality control checks, you can quickly grasp these concepts and your eyes don't glaze over. (8) Being able to understand how numbers work is pretty important, even if dull stuff like budgeting and profitability and optimisation. So let's tie this in with the signalling stuff we talked about earlier. Your degree basically says "I can think critically and I'm comfortable with numbers". So if you're not sure about what kind of job you want to do and just want to take advantage of the signals your degree gives, then aim for jobs where critical thinking and numbers matter. If this sounds super generic and like, can apply to almost anything... that's cause it basically can! Maths and philosophy is basically a giant toolbox about how to think. You want to do become an accountant? Sure, it's all about modelling and critical thinking. Marketing? You'll be surprised how metric and analytically driven it is compared to the stereotype. Business finance and management? Pick up a book on corporate finance and tell me it's not at least 50% maths stuff. Politics? Pushing aside all the stereotypes, read and analysing policy documents, looking at economic impact assessments, and analysing the results of surveys are... you probably get the drill here lol. Ok I've written like way too much. Hopefully you found this useful. (9) Footnotes:
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 27 2015 12:09 Lord Tolkien wrote: in all honesty, now that i think about it, everything minus the alcoholic drinks at the embassy was procured at costco (I have a laser eye for this). Like, I'm pretty sure they spent 250 dollars at costco and called it a day alcohol is cheap as hell at costco. dunno why you would buy alcohol anywhere else (unless costco doesn't shelve waht you want) | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
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