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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On February 25 2015 04:42 TheYango wrote: I mean Shackle is a skill that, by design, Riot's probably wanted in League for ages. It was just a matter of how to implement it given how much they seem to be on a crusade against point-and-click disables right now (even though Shackleshot is conditional anyway). well even shackles failure stun is a long stun to Riot. so i can understand a direct 1:1 being considered bad. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
That's just not the direction they wanted to take the skill, though, seeing as this one's clearly a nuke. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On February 25 2015 04:45 Seuss wrote: They should have named him Miyazaki. Yea this guy also looks like he's straight out of a ghibli film | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On February 25 2015 04:26 jcarlsoniv wrote: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-reveal/bard-wandering-caretaker His name is Bard. LOL Riot please Holy shit I'm totally picking up league again for this. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Then again, the comparison I'm working with is Naga's ulti lasting 7 seconds, lol. In that vein, I wonder if Bard has the option to end the ult early. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
I'm saying having "states" or a "United set of States" instead of one singular country or isolated countries seem like a dumb idea. Creates far too many redundancies and issues within your "united" network. In the same vain creating a "Union" of singular countries makes more sense than creating on "United States" of those entities. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On February 25 2015 04:48 WaveofShadow wrote: Holy shit I'm totally picking up league again for this. How long does it take for the champ to drop to 6300, two weeks? I might grind daily AI win games... | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On February 25 2015 04:47 TheYango wrote: The failure stun is not long if you consider that Shackle in DotA does no damage. Riot does recognize that no-damage disables do need to have extra power to compensate. That's just not the direction they wanted to take the skill, though, seeing as this one's clearly a nuke. its not like there are many of them that exist in the game anyway, its what, Terrify, Cocoon, Event Horizon, Puncturing taunt, whimsy, and the two ultis, Hyper Kinetic position reverser, and Fate's Call. Even then the fail stun is still almost as long as most of those at rank 1. A successful stun would have been waaay too long. On February 25 2015 04:51 TheYango wrote: From the video, R looks a lot shorter than I'd expect it to be. Then again, the comparison I'm working with is Naga's ulti lasting 7 seconds, lol. In that vein, I wonder if Bard has the option to end the ult early. To mee it just looks like they wanted to make ohmwrecker work, so they said, lets make it AOE and be forced zhonyas as well. and kept the duration the same. The good news is they are taking more risks, even if most of the thought process has been tested in other games before. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
makes sense | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 25 2015 04:55 Dandel Ion wrote: looks like R is 2.5 secs to make it in line with other stasisis makes sense Does it just make them invulnerable or invulnerable AND untargetable? Cuz if it's the latter, that basically takes out the only self-synergistic component of his kit (Stasis->free Shackle followup while they're Stasised). In fact, that's probably the biggest gripe you could make about his kit--it's a bunch of cool abilities strung together, but there's not really any underlying theme or synergy that really gives him a defined role--which is going to make it hard to balance because he could be either powerful enough that he's always good, or weak enough that he's always useless, rather than having his strength dictated by the usefulness of the role he plays to a particular teamcomp. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On February 25 2015 05:04 TheYango wrote: Does it just make them invulnerable or invulnerable AND untargetable? Cuz if it's the latter, that basically takes out the only self-synergistic component of his kit (Stasis->free Shackle followup while they're Stasised). In fact, that's probably the biggest gripe you could make about his kit--it's a bunch of cool abilities strung together, but there's not really any underlying theme or synergy that really gives him a defined role--which is going to make it hard to balance because he could be either powerful enough that he's always good, or weak enough that he's always useless, rather than having his strength dictated by the usefulness of the role he plays to a particular teamcomp. Is that a gripe or what they should have been doing in the first place? Cool kits that people can then figure out what they want to do with it instead of forcing synergies? It's not league design though. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On February 25 2015 04:54 mordek wrote: How long does it take for the champ to drop to 6300, two weeks? I might grind daily AI win games... I used to do that up until i finally bought all the champs. I'm not doing that shit again f this game It takes a while Mordek | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On February 25 2015 05:04 TheYango wrote: Does it just make them invulnerable or invulnerable AND untargetable? Cuz if it's the latter, that basically takes out the only self-synergistic component of his kit (Stasis->free Shackle followup while they're Stasised). In fact, that's probably the biggest gripe you could make about his kit--it's a bunch of cool abilities strung together, but there's not really any underlying theme or synergy that really gives him a defined role--which is going to make it hard to balance because he could be either powerful enough that he's always good, or weak enough that he's always useless, rather than having his strength dictated by the usefulness of the role he plays to a particular teamcomp. obvs i dont know yet but i would wager on the latter because I've seen quite a few champs in my time | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On February 25 2015 05:07 TheYango wrote: I mean, even "cool designs" need to have some sort of underlying theme or self-synergistic interaction. Even League's "coolest" designs like Lee Sin still have some fundamental positive interaction within their skillset that makes the kit come together. I mean, his "theme" is very much roam, get between lanes quick, drop support places. Return of roam meta! | ||
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