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Rockafellalp
Profile Joined December 2014
Canada356 Posts
December 15 2014 15:07 GMT
#74181
You're in Texas... I'm great AAA Canadian born. Sorry.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 15 2014 15:14 GMT
#74182
I hear Seattle is close by.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Rockafellalp
Profile Joined December 2014
Canada356 Posts
December 15 2014 15:16 GMT
#74183
Would your mom let me move in?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 15:19:12
December 15 2014 15:18 GMT
#74184
On December 16 2014 00:16 Rockafellalp wrote:
Would your mom let me move in?


I think you should be more concerned about the allegedly hot sister
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Rockafellalp
Profile Joined December 2014
Canada356 Posts
December 15 2014 15:21 GMT
#74185
On December 16 2014 00:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 00:16 Rockafellalp wrote:
Would your mom let me move in?


I think you should be more concerned about the allegedly hot sister



Hot sister, hot mom. Am I right?

Papa rockafella. Son Jeff
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 15:42:49
December 15 2014 15:41 GMT
#74186
On December 15 2014 23:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On December 15 2014 23:52 Numy wrote:
Tolkien, this Giants mage deck is awesomely fun. Still have a bit of a tough time if I get bad draws vs hunter/zoo but even then there's always a chance and it's still fun. Glad you convinced me! :D


@SwagLord, is there a halfway reasonable replacement for Alexstraza in this list? I'd love to give Elsa Cancer a try, but I know not having that card leaves a big hole.

In Giants Mage? Ragnaros is a decent enough replacement, though you're in a dangerous position since Alex also serves as a self-heal after proccing ice block, which can be dangerous if you get rushed down. Nonetheless, Ragnaros works since it can be duplicated against Control decks.


In Freeze Mage, you don't technically need to have Alex, though it does weaken the deck pretty significantly (as it's one of your primary combo starters, and sometimes the self-heal buys you time to kill).

Instead, try the Ancient Mage OTK Freeze Mage deck.

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Again, not having Alex weakens this significantly too, but it works. Goal is to stall out long enough to get the combo pieces in hand, the OTK.

2 OTK combos: 32 damage with Thalnos, x2 sorcs, x2 frost bolts, x2 ice lances, x2 fireballs (9 cards), or 30 damage with x2 sorc, ancient mage, x2 frost bolt, x2 ice lance, x1 fireball (8 cards).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 15 2014 15:43 GMT
#74187
k wellll I don't have Rag either, so I'll give that 2nd list a shot
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 15:58:41
December 15 2014 15:45 GMT
#74188
On December 16 2014 00:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
k wellll I don't have Rag either, so I'll give that 2nd list a shot

Alex is still pretty much core in Freeze mage decks, but that'll be about as close as you'll come to Freeze mage shenanigans without her. You can try an Antonidas Freeze mage with x2 mirror image (replace Ancient Mage Cone of Cold and x1 Coldlight), but that's pretty bleh (you won't get the room vs Aggro like Hunter).

If you do get Alex, the deck gets significantly better.


Current reasons why Freeze mage is good:

No more Loatheb. Use to be auto-include for every deck, now currently a somewhat rare-ish tech card. If people want tech, they generally pick Harrison ATM, since most of the popular decks in meta are spell-lite, and have weapons.

Hunters no longer run flare as auto-include. Face hunters don't run it, and midrange hunters only do sometimes. That, plus with hunter popularity sharply declined from pre-GvG nerfs, makes Freeze Mage actually viable on ladder. There are more Warriors (and the Warrior matchup for Freeze mage is now literally auto-concede the moment you see a Shield Maiden played), but Warriors use to be pretty damned rare in ranked.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 15 2014 15:52 GMT
#74189
On December 16 2014 00:45 Lord Tolkien wrote:
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On December 16 2014 00:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
k wellll I don't have Rag either, so I'll give that 2nd list a shot

Alex is still pretty much core in Freeze mage decks, but that'll be about as close as you'll come to Freeze mage shenanigans without her.


Yeah, well, this is part of the reason why I said I wasn't concerned about my druid deck being super good the other night - I just want to play a bunch of games cuz I'm still missing so many core cards for other decks I'd want to play.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 15:59:09
December 15 2014 15:57 GMT
#74190
On December 15 2014 22:43 Seuss wrote:


Edit: Also I was apparently totally wrong about Antique Healbot.


Called it.

I'm liking the class variety in GvG, it's something different every game. Very few Rogues though. I've played a fair bit of Mech Rogue myself, don't think it's that good. Rogue just has no way to sustain aggro past ~turn 6.
I am the Town Medic.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
December 15 2014 16:01 GMT
#74191
On December 16 2014 00:57 Alzadar wrote:
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On December 15 2014 22:43 Seuss wrote:


Edit: Also I was apparently totally wrong about Antique Healbot.


Called it.

I'm liking the class variety in GvG, it's something different every game. Very few Rogues though. I've played a fair bit of Mech Rogue myself, don't think it's that good. Rogue just has no way to sustain aggro past ~turn 6.

One word.

Jeeves.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 15 2014 16:02 GMT
#74192
On December 16 2014 00:57 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 22:43 Seuss wrote:


Edit: Also I was apparently totally wrong about Antique Healbot.


Called it.

I'm liking the class variety in GvG, it's something different every game. Very few Rogues though. I've played a fair bit of Mech Rogue myself, don't think it's that good. Rogue just has no way to sustain aggro past ~turn 6.


The only reason I'd use Gazlowe Rogue over Gazlowe Druid is because of Sensai. I'd instantly replace Junkbot for Sensai, but I reeaaaaaallllllly love Mech Bear Car and Robo Cub, so idk.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 15 2014 16:02 GMT
#74193
So I hopped on Smite last night, and maybe it's just the midnight - 2AM crowd, but it was way more toxic than I remember it being. Like, LoL toxic.

Sigh. Guess I'll just keep away from online games for a while.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 15 2014 16:07 GMT
#74194
On December 16 2014 01:02 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 00:57 Alzadar wrote:
On December 15 2014 22:43 Seuss wrote:


Edit: Also I was apparently totally wrong about Antique Healbot.


Called it.

I'm liking the class variety in GvG, it's something different every game. Very few Rogues though. I've played a fair bit of Mech Rogue myself, don't think it's that good. Rogue just has no way to sustain aggro past ~turn 6.


The only reason I'd use Gazlowe Rogue over Gazlowe Druid is because of Sensai. I'd instantly replace Junkbot for Sensai, but I reeaaaaaallllllly love Mech Bear Car and Robo Cub, so idk.


Robo Cub seems pretty uninteresting, just an average body.

What I really hate is when I run into these ridiculously top-heavy Control Warriors (in the mirror). They're still running Sylvanas, Cairne, Geddon, Gorehowl and Big Game Hunter, meanwhile I've cut all of those cards for better vs aggro and I still get killed t5-6 sometimes by Mech.
I am the Town Medic.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 15 2014 16:08 GMT
#74195
accidentially got the super bandage girl secret while going for something completely different
ok

i'm just waiting for my internet to stop being a shit so i can play leaguuuu
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 15 2014 16:11 GMT
#74196
Rogue is in a weird place because its primary competitive deck got nerfed shortly before GvG and the new cards are kind of all over the place.

That said Tinkmaster's Sharpsword Oil is pretty sick.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 15 2014 16:12 GMT
#74197
How many cards were in GvG altogether?
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 15 2014 16:16 GMT
#74198
123 collectible cards, with 20 tokens/spare parts/etc.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
December 15 2014 16:18 GMT
#74199
I managed to open 2 Clockwork Giants and made a millish druid with those. First game I got a turn 3 giant out and lost to the handlock. MVPs were the obvious 2 moltens and sunfury in hand along with two antique healbots lol. Dang that card has done a lot more work than I thought it would.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 15 2014 16:32 GMT
#74200
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