Off-Topic General Discussion - Page 2209

On June 17 2014 05:06 Nos- wrote:
what the fuck? That was disgusting

On June 17 2014 04:53 red_ wrote:
I'm going to clarify my position so that this isn't a discussion over the semantics of 'likeliness.' My overarching point is that 'peak condition' and 'average human being' aren't really that far removed when it comes to chances of contracting different cancers. Once you eliminate obvious things like smoking cigarettes and inhaling asbestos and whatnot, cancer doesn't really give a shit that Ronaldo is 9% bodyfat and can run for miles with much less perceived effort, and happens to be a magician with his feet and a football.

Cancer killed some 550k people in the US in 2010(that was the date for the cdc stats, didn't care to dig seeing if they have more recent ones as for the purposes of this discussion it's just fine), which means that EVERYONE has a pretty damn slim chance of dying from it. "Someone like Ronaldo" is basically the same as saying "not fat people who aren't at high risk of diabetes and heart disease" which isn't saying much. That's pretty much my point.

On June 17 2014 05:30 Slayer91 wrote:


equating health with %bodyfat is ludicrous
and i said "except cancer" the whole time. you said "most major diseases don't give a fuck about your condition" when aside from cancer they pretty much dl
if your arterties are super elastic and shit you wont get heart attacks
i think someone study and inuits with a fish and blubber diet had ZERO cases of heart disease throughout the 70's and when they moved to denmark those stats went to normal

and ronaldo is at a young enough age that cancer is also very unlikely

its like you're talking to a wall here you havent responded to any of my points you just seem to be angry at cancer for killing so many people who don't "deserve it"

On June 17 2014 06:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
Both are not exactly the pinnacle of football.

€: that means they're gonna be fighting for who drops out of the group in 3rd place instead 4th
yes as bad as portugal is and as much as i want them to lose they won't.

On June 17 2014 06:07 Gahlo wrote:

Iirc, US is ranked 13th and Ghana 30-sumthing according to FIFA.

On June 17 2014 05:58 red_ wrote:


Your initial position was about 'peak health and condition'(which when applied to 'someone like Ronaldo' means conditioning, like cardiovascular health and bodyfat %, because you literally don't know anything about his health profile beyond that unless you are his personal doctor) and its role in his likeliness to face death. I have indeed talked to you point(singular, you had one), and yes I never addressed other diseases because there is no need to, but for what it's worth, being in shape will not save your from Meningitis, or Malaria, or AIDS, or diseases FAR rarer than cancer that you will only encounter if you venture into jungles with your bare feet or whatever condition is required to catch/contract them.

Heart Disease is essentially the only thing that maintaining 'good health' will save you from, and in a sort of irony, the activities that keep one in shape can actually kill you' by triggering heart failure due to undiagnosed cardiomyopathies(yes, these are also rare). Even Heart Disease, the highest killer of human beings besides ourselves(violence, accidents, suicide), kills at an incredibly small rate in the country most known for it, and while it does 'significantly' cut down on life expectancy(by about 10 years in the morbidly obese), that still puts you into your 60s for the average person.

This is why I called your initial post 'stupid shit.' You are arguing that a person who faces almost exactly the same chance of dying on any given day as anyone on this planet in a developed country, is somehow exempt from ever requiring aid from a doctor, and that's without going into how much money and professional care is given to professional athletes to keep them up and running(literally) because of serious injury induced by playing their sport.

In short(jokes), athletes need doctors.

On June 17 2014 05:08 Doctorbeat wrote:


He got a 10 game suspension for that...

I'd have him tried in court.

On June 17 2014 06:16 Capped wrote:


That was actually fucking disgusting behaviour. I've been on both sides of a one-sided fight and seen my fair share too and ive never seen such disgusting violence. Like you throw a few hits out and if the guy goes down you've done your shit, it gets left at that, you don't keep fucking attacking him and going back again and again while fighting others too. Fuck even when i got mugged and struggled i wasn't beaten that badly.

Jesus what a cunt.