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Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup - Page 2

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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1177 Posts
July 15 2024 06:44 GMT
#21
Thanks for doing this!!
The new kr streaming platform is so bad for us foreigners

I hope to manage to see some games here and there during the week.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
neozeitgeist
Profile Joined July 2024
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-15 11:00:59
July 15 2024 11:00 GMT
#22
So basically Player in upper slot of bracket must pick SC1 race and the player in lower slot must pick SC2 race in game 1, and vice versa in game 2. Game 3 is blind pick and both players can choose any race they desire.
neozeitgeist
Profile Joined July 2024
3 Posts
July 15 2024 11:01 GMT
#23
On July 15 2024 02:15 MineraIs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2024 21:06 Vision_ wrote:
Is there a streaming on twitch ? to avoid lags on chzzk


Day 1: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2197594107
Day 2: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2197919315

8 players remain.
Ro8, Semi finals and finals are June 20-21 I believe.



If you're interested in lag-free VOD, here is the link to the organizer's VOD channel on youtube with full videos. Keep in mind the VOD is not divided into each game.
fr33xta
Profile Joined July 2024
15 Posts
July 15 2024 11:18 GMT
#24
this needs an english casting. i'm sure a few peopple would wanna watch this as i do
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
July 15 2024 17:09 GMT
#25
On July 15 2024 20:01 neozeitgeist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2024 02:15 MineraIs wrote:
On July 14 2024 21:06 Vision_ wrote:
Is there a streaming on twitch ? to avoid lags on chzzk


Day 1: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2197594107
Day 2: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2197919315

8 players remain.
Ro8, Semi finals and finals are June 20-21 I believe.



If you're interested in lag-free VOD, here is the link to the organizer's VOD channel on youtube with full videos. Keep in mind the VOD is not divided into each game.


I’ve been asking him for a month to include player Id’s for foreigners but no reply
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MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
July 15 2024 17:10 GMT
#26
On July 15 2024 20:00 neozeitgeist wrote:
So basically Player in upper slot of bracket must pick SC1 race and the player in lower slot must pick SC2 race in game 1, and vice versa in game 2. Game 3 is blind pick and both players can choose any race they desire.


Yes, each player must play each generation vs the opposite generation for the first two games. The ace match is players choice.

I believe Stephencurry was playing random
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Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
877 Posts
July 15 2024 20:36 GMT
#27
Thanks you for VOD.

Zerg SC1 against Protoss SC2 is really enjoyable, i mean more than actual ZvP mainly because hydralisk are T1 and cost one supply cost



MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
July 16 2024 08:00 GMT
#28
MC casually doing MC things...
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
July 16 2024 16:07 GMT
#29
Would anyone want to cast the final rounds with me?
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Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
877 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-18 08:20:30
July 18 2024 08:03 GMT
#30
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
609 Posts
July 18 2024 17:11 GMT
#31
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site
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MrIronGolem27
Profile Joined July 2020
United States255 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-18 22:38:12
July 18 2024 22:34 GMT
#32
On July 19 2024 02:11 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site


This is inaccurate, anybody can cast the event so long as they are willing to do so on Chzzk.

While practically nobody can justify streaming on Chzzk just for this event if they don't already have a following there, this really isn't any different from Google sponsoring an event that is only covered on YouTube, or Amazon sponsoring an event that is only covered on Twitch. Nothing to see here.

EDIT: While I'm here, Winter and PiG have both uploaded replay coverage of this event
HyperONE - StarCraft Evolution League organizer, SC: Evo Complete developer, mapmaker (author of Magannatha, TLMC19 2nd place, TLMC17 3rd+5th place), Liquipedia editor
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
July 20 2024 05:34 GMT
#33
Too bad winter is unbearable to listen too
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Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
877 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-20 16:44:42
July 20 2024 16:40 GMT
#34
On July 19 2024 02:11 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site


I can understand that you can t schedule this event on your planning, that s said it s a bit sad that we will be dependant from korean sponsor if we are interested by this mod (unless european event will be promoted who know)
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27422 Posts
July 20 2024 17:08 GMT
#35
On July 21 2024 01:40 Vision_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2024 02:11 WardiTV wrote:
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site


I can understand that you can t schedule this event on your planning, that s said it s a bit sad that we will be dependant from korean sponsor if we are interested by this mod (unless european event will be promoted who know)

That would be fun but unlike Korea most of the current notable pros aren’t particularly high level BW players.

And hey I love both games, and these bring some fun matches but I don’t really think the future is is mashing together a 14 year old with a 26 year old one
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
877 Posts
July 20 2024 17:36 GMT
#36
On July 21 2024 02:08 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2024 01:40 Vision_ wrote:
On July 19 2024 02:11 WardiTV wrote:
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site


I can understand that you can t schedule this event on your planning, that s said it s a bit sad that we will be dependant from korean sponsor if we are interested by this mod (unless european event will be promoted who know)

That would be fun but unlike Korea most of the current notable pros aren’t particularly high level BW players.

And hey I love both games, and these bring some fun matches but I don’t really think the future is is mashing together a 14 year old with a 26 year old one


I like the synergy between SC1:Evolve being balanced in direction of SC2, and it s a HUGE new breath considering how repetitive the game can be in this period without any ambitious changes and with this solid idea in the mind of community that every changes are supposed to respect the Esport dictat of speed, i.e APM contest.

I dislike every people who consider that a game of SC2 has to be played in less than 12 min and i m pretty sure kids of 14 years old (like Clem or Reynor did) can be interested in a deeper game with less emphasis on speed.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1365 Posts
July 20 2024 17:55 GMT
#37
On July 21 2024 02:36 Vision_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2024 02:08 WombaT wrote:
On July 21 2024 01:40 Vision_ wrote:
On July 19 2024 02:11 WardiTV wrote:
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site


I can understand that you can t schedule this event on your planning, that s said it s a bit sad that we will be dependant from korean sponsor if we are interested by this mod (unless european event will be promoted who know)

That would be fun but unlike Korea most of the current notable pros aren’t particularly high level BW players.

And hey I love both games, and these bring some fun matches but I don’t really think the future is is mashing together a 14 year old with a 26 year old one


I like the synergy between SC1:Evolve being balanced in direction of SC2, and it s a HUGE new breath considering how repetitive the game can be in this period without any ambitious changes and with this solid idea in the mind of community that every changes are supposed to respect the Esport dictat of speed, i.e APM contest.

I dislike every people who consider that a game of SC2 has to be played in less than 12 min and i m pretty sure kids of 14 years old (like Clem or Reynor did) can be interested in a deeper game with less emphasis on speed.



Evidently, it can not. Not that "the game is too slow" is the biggest reason we don't have any big new blood, that is more of a money issue.
But every game in any Esports has become faster over the years. Counterstrike cut its round-times with CS2 and even LoL got faster, with hour-long games being the exception, not the rule. The biggest AoE 2 Tournament of the year doesn't even get played on the classic mode, but in Empire War (with essentially cuts out the first ~15 minutes of any game), because RedBull wanted something shorter and more appealing to a broader audience.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27422 Posts
July 20 2024 18:41 GMT
#38
On July 21 2024 02:36 Vision_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2024 02:08 WombaT wrote:
On July 21 2024 01:40 Vision_ wrote:
On July 19 2024 02:11 WardiTV wrote:
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site


I can understand that you can t schedule this event on your planning, that s said it s a bit sad that we will be dependant from korean sponsor if we are interested by this mod (unless european event will be promoted who know)

That would be fun but unlike Korea most of the current notable pros aren’t particularly high level BW players.

And hey I love both games, and these bring some fun matches but I don’t really think the future is is mashing together a 14 year old with a 26 year old one


I like the synergy between SC1:Evolve being balanced in direction of SC2, and it s a HUGE new breath considering how repetitive the game can be in this period without any ambitious changes and with this solid idea in the mind of community that every changes are supposed to respect the Esport dictat of speed, i.e APM contest.

I dislike every people who consider that a game of SC2 has to be played in less than 12 min and i m pretty sure kids of 14 years old (like Clem or Reynor did) can be interested in a deeper game with less emphasis on speed.

Brood War has even more emphasis on mechanical speed than SC2 does, and seems about equivalent with this particular mod.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
877 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-21 12:18:28
July 21 2024 10:17 GMT
#39
12 workers doesn t only mean that Blizzard want a faster game, that also said that Blizzard never resolved the annoying mid game unconsistency. Today this can be resolved because in looking at this mod i feel like SC2 doesn t need to be so different from his daddy, so vultures, "hydras T1 one supply" and dragoons are probably a good thing.

From this point of view, stalkers can become a real harrasement unit, awkward disruptor utilisation can be replaced like a stormgate catapult ("simple and basic idea") and colossus has to be more balanced between light units and heavy units (without pointing an existing problem or not of the light-heavy proportion units). Then the force field has to resist more to ravagers biles as community asked since so long.

Then basically, vultures addition is followed by firebat marines and macro hatch looks a part of strategy which has been lost in SC2 (then we can consider queen / injection / tumor like a necessary tweak : decision for the player regarding the size of the map and his personnal strategy)

The middle game consistency can be also resolved with a ground restriction which forbid structures while for example workers would travel across cliffs to the lower ground for harvesting ressources far from base ( ' a la Dune') - better usage of cliffs overall for units also can be considered

This mod helps a lot in resolving some annoying part in SC2
neozeitgeist
Profile Joined July 2024
3 Posts
July 21 2024 13:02 GMT
#40
Tournament's Over,

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Congratulations, Dark!
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