• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:40
CET 02:40
KST 10:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT25Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0241LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Liquipedia WCS Portal Launched Kaelaris on the futue of SC2 and much more... How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) How do the "codes" work in GSL? Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Recent recommended BW games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Do you consider PvZ imbalanced? CasterMuse Youtube
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Fighting Spirit mining rates Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2172 users

Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup - Page 2

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
40 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1169 Posts
July 15 2024 06:44 GMT
#21
Thanks for doing this!!
The new kr streaming platform is so bad for us foreigners

I hope to manage to see some games here and there during the week.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
neozeitgeist
Profile Joined July 2024
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-15 11:00:59
July 15 2024 11:00 GMT
#22
So basically Player in upper slot of bracket must pick SC1 race and the player in lower slot must pick SC2 race in game 1, and vice versa in game 2. Game 3 is blind pick and both players can choose any race they desire.
neozeitgeist
Profile Joined July 2024
3 Posts
July 15 2024 11:01 GMT
#23
On July 15 2024 02:15 MineraIs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2024 21:06 Vision_ wrote:
Is there a streaming on twitch ? to avoid lags on chzzk


Day 1: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2197594107
Day 2: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2197919315

8 players remain.
Ro8, Semi finals and finals are June 20-21 I believe.



If you're interested in lag-free VOD, here is the link to the organizer's VOD channel on youtube with full videos. Keep in mind the VOD is not divided into each game.
fr33xta
Profile Joined July 2024
10 Posts
July 15 2024 11:18 GMT
#24
this needs an english casting. i'm sure a few peopple would wanna watch this as i do
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
July 15 2024 17:09 GMT
#25
On July 15 2024 20:01 neozeitgeist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2024 02:15 MineraIs wrote:
On July 14 2024 21:06 Vision_ wrote:
Is there a streaming on twitch ? to avoid lags on chzzk


Day 1: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2197594107
Day 2: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2197919315

8 players remain.
Ro8, Semi finals and finals are June 20-21 I believe.



If you're interested in lag-free VOD, here is the link to the organizer's VOD channel on youtube with full videos. Keep in mind the VOD is not divided into each game.


I’ve been asking him for a month to include player Id’s for foreigners but no reply
✯ [ twitch.tv/MrMineraIs ] ✯ [ Check out my Maps: https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/612442-official-maps-by-minerals ] ✯
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
July 15 2024 17:10 GMT
#26
On July 15 2024 20:00 neozeitgeist wrote:
So basically Player in upper slot of bracket must pick SC1 race and the player in lower slot must pick SC2 race in game 1, and vice versa in game 2. Game 3 is blind pick and both players can choose any race they desire.


Yes, each player must play each generation vs the opposite generation for the first two games. The ace match is players choice.

I believe Stephencurry was playing random
✯ [ twitch.tv/MrMineraIs ] ✯ [ Check out my Maps: https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/612442-official-maps-by-minerals ] ✯
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
874 Posts
July 15 2024 20:36 GMT
#27
Thanks you for VOD.

Zerg SC1 against Protoss SC2 is really enjoyable, i mean more than actual ZvP mainly because hydralisk are T1 and cost one supply cost



MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1399 Posts
July 16 2024 08:00 GMT
#28
MC casually doing MC things...
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
July 16 2024 16:07 GMT
#29
Would anyone want to cast the final rounds with me?
✯ [ twitch.tv/MrMineraIs ] ✯ [ Check out my Maps: https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/612442-official-maps-by-minerals ] ✯
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
874 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-18 08:20:30
July 18 2024 08:03 GMT
#30
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
596 Posts
July 18 2024 17:11 GMT
#31
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site
Commentator
MrIronGolem27
Profile Joined July 2020
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-18 22:38:12
July 18 2024 22:34 GMT
#32
On July 19 2024 02:11 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site


This is inaccurate, anybody can cast the event so long as they are willing to do so on Chzzk.

While practically nobody can justify streaming on Chzzk just for this event if they don't already have a following there, this really isn't any different from Google sponsoring an event that is only covered on YouTube, or Amazon sponsoring an event that is only covered on Twitch. Nothing to see here.

EDIT: While I'm here, Winter and PiG have both uploaded replay coverage of this event
HyperONE - StarCraft Evolution League organizer, SC: Evo Complete developer, mapmaker (author of Magannatha, TLMC19 2nd place, TLMC17 3rd+5th place), Liquipedia editor
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
July 20 2024 05:34 GMT
#33
Too bad winter is unbearable to listen too
✯ [ twitch.tv/MrMineraIs ] ✯ [ Check out my Maps: https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/612442-official-maps-by-minerals ] ✯
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
874 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-20 16:44:42
July 20 2024 16:40 GMT
#34
On July 19 2024 02:11 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site


I can understand that you can t schedule this event on your planning, that s said it s a bit sad that we will be dependant from korean sponsor if we are interested by this mod (unless european event will be promoted who know)
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
July 20 2024 17:08 GMT
#35
On July 21 2024 01:40 Vision_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2024 02:11 WardiTV wrote:
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site


I can understand that you can t schedule this event on your planning, that s said it s a bit sad that we will be dependant from korean sponsor if we are interested by this mod (unless european event will be promoted who know)

That would be fun but unlike Korea most of the current notable pros aren’t particularly high level BW players.

And hey I love both games, and these bring some fun matches but I don’t really think the future is is mashing together a 14 year old with a 26 year old one
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
874 Posts
July 20 2024 17:36 GMT
#36
On July 21 2024 02:08 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2024 01:40 Vision_ wrote:
On July 19 2024 02:11 WardiTV wrote:
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site


I can understand that you can t schedule this event on your planning, that s said it s a bit sad that we will be dependant from korean sponsor if we are interested by this mod (unless european event will be promoted who know)

That would be fun but unlike Korea most of the current notable pros aren’t particularly high level BW players.

And hey I love both games, and these bring some fun matches but I don’t really think the future is is mashing together a 14 year old with a 26 year old one


I like the synergy between SC1:Evolve being balanced in direction of SC2, and it s a HUGE new breath considering how repetitive the game can be in this period without any ambitious changes and with this solid idea in the mind of community that every changes are supposed to respect the Esport dictat of speed, i.e APM contest.

I dislike every people who consider that a game of SC2 has to be played in less than 12 min and i m pretty sure kids of 14 years old (like Clem or Reynor did) can be interested in a deeper game with less emphasis on speed.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1262 Posts
July 20 2024 17:55 GMT
#37
On July 21 2024 02:36 Vision_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2024 02:08 WombaT wrote:
On July 21 2024 01:40 Vision_ wrote:
On July 19 2024 02:11 WardiTV wrote:
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site


I can understand that you can t schedule this event on your planning, that s said it s a bit sad that we will be dependant from korean sponsor if we are interested by this mod (unless european event will be promoted who know)

That would be fun but unlike Korea most of the current notable pros aren’t particularly high level BW players.

And hey I love both games, and these bring some fun matches but I don’t really think the future is is mashing together a 14 year old with a 26 year old one


I like the synergy between SC1:Evolve being balanced in direction of SC2, and it s a HUGE new breath considering how repetitive the game can be in this period without any ambitious changes and with this solid idea in the mind of community that every changes are supposed to respect the Esport dictat of speed, i.e APM contest.

I dislike every people who consider that a game of SC2 has to be played in less than 12 min and i m pretty sure kids of 14 years old (like Clem or Reynor did) can be interested in a deeper game with less emphasis on speed.



Evidently, it can not. Not that "the game is too slow" is the biggest reason we don't have any big new blood, that is more of a money issue.
But every game in any Esports has become faster over the years. Counterstrike cut its round-times with CS2 and even LoL got faster, with hour-long games being the exception, not the rule. The biggest AoE 2 Tournament of the year doesn't even get played on the classic mode, but in Empire War (with essentially cuts out the first ~15 minutes of any game), because RedBull wanted something shorter and more appealing to a broader audience.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
July 20 2024 18:41 GMT
#38
On July 21 2024 02:36 Vision_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2024 02:08 WombaT wrote:
On July 21 2024 01:40 Vision_ wrote:
On July 19 2024 02:11 WardiTV wrote:
On July 18 2024 17:03 Vision_ wrote:
I can t because of my connection, i have also awfull scholar english !

I don t know why commentators are stucked in SC2 while this mod seems promising and carry new stuff and fun


Because we're not allowed to cast the event because its sponsored by a Korean streaming site


I can understand that you can t schedule this event on your planning, that s said it s a bit sad that we will be dependant from korean sponsor if we are interested by this mod (unless european event will be promoted who know)

That would be fun but unlike Korea most of the current notable pros aren’t particularly high level BW players.

And hey I love both games, and these bring some fun matches but I don’t really think the future is is mashing together a 14 year old with a 26 year old one


I like the synergy between SC1:Evolve being balanced in direction of SC2, and it s a HUGE new breath considering how repetitive the game can be in this period without any ambitious changes and with this solid idea in the mind of community that every changes are supposed to respect the Esport dictat of speed, i.e APM contest.

I dislike every people who consider that a game of SC2 has to be played in less than 12 min and i m pretty sure kids of 14 years old (like Clem or Reynor did) can be interested in a deeper game with less emphasis on speed.

Brood War has even more emphasis on mechanical speed than SC2 does, and seems about equivalent with this particular mod.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
874 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-21 12:18:28
July 21 2024 10:17 GMT
#39
12 workers doesn t only mean that Blizzard want a faster game, that also said that Blizzard never resolved the annoying mid game unconsistency. Today this can be resolved because in looking at this mod i feel like SC2 doesn t need to be so different from his daddy, so vultures, "hydras T1 one supply" and dragoons are probably a good thing.

From this point of view, stalkers can become a real harrasement unit, awkward disruptor utilisation can be replaced like a stormgate catapult ("simple and basic idea") and colossus has to be more balanced between light units and heavy units (without pointing an existing problem or not of the light-heavy proportion units). Then the force field has to resist more to ravagers biles as community asked since so long.

Then basically, vultures addition is followed by firebat marines and macro hatch looks a part of strategy which has been lost in SC2 (then we can consider queen / injection / tumor like a necessary tweak : decision for the player regarding the size of the map and his personnal strategy)

The middle game consistency can be also resolved with a ground restriction which forbid structures while for example workers would travel across cliffs to the lower ground for harvesting ressources far from base ( ' a la Dune') - better usage of cliffs overall for units also can be considered

This mod helps a lot in resolving some annoying part in SC2
neozeitgeist
Profile Joined July 2024
3 Posts
July 21 2024 13:02 GMT
#40
Tournament's Over,

+ Show Spoiler +
Congratulations, Dark!
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
HomeStory Cup 28 - Playoffs
CranKy Ducklings130
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 226
SteadfastSC 149
Nathanias 73
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 1514
ggaemo 148
-ZergGirl 51
NaDa 13
Dota 2
monkeys_forever373
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 578
Reynor94
Counter-Strike
fl0m2208
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor223
Other Games
summit1g10364
C9.Mang0349
Trikslyr88
Mew2King69
ViBE38
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1250
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH161
• Hupsaiya 59
• davetesta18
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV373
League of Legends
• Doublelift5081
• Scarra490
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
7h 20m
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 20m
Replay Cast
22h 20m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Wardi Open
1d 10h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 15h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.