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digmouse
China6331 Posts
![[image loading]](https://liquipedia.net/commons/images/d/d4/WTL_vs_The_World.jpg)  World Team League/2021/Winter/WTL vs The WorldSunday, Jan 09 8:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) Streams  SCBoy |  WardiTV Legendk |  IntoTheiNu | CrankStarting Maps Randomly chosen before each series. Prize Pool Winning team: ￥50,000 ($7,867) Losing team: ￥30,000 ($4,720) Match-ups  Trap vs  ReynorRogue vs  HeRoMaRinE TIME vs ShoWTimEMaru vs Serral
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Liquid`MaNa
Poland105 Posts
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robih
Austria1086 Posts
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tigera6
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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lepricon1992
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digmouse
China6331 Posts
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WardiTV
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SteadfastSC
Canada17 Posts
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rwala
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WardiTV
601 Posts
On January 05 2022 01:02 rwala wrote: Cool! Curious what the format will be. It sounds like each match is a "series", but unclear how winning team is determined. Each match is 2 maps which builds into an overall BO9 | ||
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CiuCiu
31 Posts
On January 05 2022 01:04 WardiTV wrote: Each match is 2 maps which builds into an overall BO9 So we might not get to see Maru vs Serral? As usual? | ||
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tigera6
3484 Posts
On January 05 2022 01:39 CiuCiu wrote: So we might not get to see Maru vs Serral? As usual? I think they will play 8 maps no matter what, similar to the WTL regular season format. | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2450 Posts
Does Serral wish to participate in the next WTL? | ||
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pzlama333
United States282 Posts
On January 05 2022 02:05 swarminfestor wrote: I guess by having Clem representing WTL team produces much more hype, but then he may deemed as 'traitor' to World team by doing so. TIME as one of representative does not seem a bad at all. Does Serral wish to participate in the next WTL? That requires Ence to hire two more players to make a 3-people roster first. Anyway, Reynor's Qlash has confirmed that they plan to participate and look for more players. | ||
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digmouse
China6331 Posts
On January 05 2022 02:05 swarminfestor wrote: I guess by having Clem representing WTL team produces much more hype, but then he may deemed as 'traitor' to World team by doing so. TIME as one of representative does not seem a bad at all. Does Serral wish to participate in the next WTL? It's about "players in WTL" vs who are not, so Clem is in the WTL camp. And yeah he is there for the hype, as he isn't even close to being the best performing non Korean player in regular season, that would go to Scarlett. | ||
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Philippe
354 Posts
On January 05 2022 02:24 pzlama333 wrote: That requires Ence to hire two more players to make a 3-people roster first. Anyway, Reynor's Qlash has confirmed that they plan to participate and look for more players. Not sure ENCE would be entertaining a larger roster, they're staying with Serral as their lone player for years and it works fine. As for QLASH, depends on who they will be recruiting. Free agents who are strong enough to get the team into high playoff contention aren't aplenty, so that means having to seek agreements with other teams for player transfers, or directly contacting said players. Either way I'm interested to see who would join Reynor, should be fine as long : - They don't do it last minute. There's seeing how the Juggernauts team was built, and they didn't fare great in the qualifications. PREP qualified but their main season didn't pan out well | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On January 05 2022 02:45 digmouse wrote: It's about "players in WTL" vs who are not, so Clem is in the WTL camp. And yeah he is there for the hype, as he isn't even close to being the best performing non Korean player in regular season, that would go to Scarlett. Him and Scarlett are tied as 3rd best performer in the league (same score 15-7 and no ace for both). Maru and Trap are 1 and 2, Rogue is the outlier. Edit: I'm talking about Time btw | ||
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rextor92
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Howard_Kao
China261 Posts
On January 05 2022 07:52 rextor92 wrote: In almost 12 years of SC2 esports history, it's a precedent to lock the very best of the best SC2 players behind one language stream. It is fracturing the community behind a language-wall, and I, for one, will not watch, support, or cover it on LP in any way unless this decision is revised. Seems like wardi gets the permission, all good | ||
hjpalpha
Germany339 Posts
World Team League/2021/Winter/WTL vs The World | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
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Wardi
England898 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote: Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/ Wtf Big sad Could as well draw the maps on a Whiteboard then and Paint the game on there and it would probably be better quality the a Re-Re-Restream  | ||
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buzz_bender
445 Posts
On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote: Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/ That is so strange. Did they ever explain why? | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On January 05 2022 21:37 buzz_bender wrote: That is so strange. Did they ever explain why? I'm guessing they want full control over the broadcast. At the end of the day it's their event and their (quite considerable) money, it's reasonable that they want to be sure everyone know it's theirs. If I'm honest, I kind of prefer that, obviously having to follow the chinese obs isn't the greatest, but I much preffer having all the WTL overlay, the desk, the transition, the music, the Hexagons and the weird shrimp add that come with watching a rebroadcast. It add some personal flavor to the event. (No offense to Wardi, but we do see your room pretty much every other tournament) I have to say it's been a while since I've watch non-english SC2, but I seem to remember that either ESL or WCS did it that way too? (I could be wrong though) | ||
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WardiTV
601 Posts
On January 06 2022 01:09 Nakajin wrote: I'm guessing they want full control over the broadcast. At the end of the day it's their event and their (quite considerable) money, it's reasonable that they want to be sure everyone know it's theirs. If I'm honest, I kind of prefer that, obviously having to follow the chinese obs isn't the greatest, but I much preffer having all the WTL overlay, the desk, the transition, the music, the Hexagons and the weird shrimp add that come with watching a rebroadcast. It add some personal flavor to the event. (No offense to Wardi, but we do see your room pretty much every other tournament) I have to say it's been a while since I've watch non-english SC2, but I seem to remember that either ESL or WCS did it that way too? (I could be wrong though) You realize you get all of that (the overlay, desk, transitions, music etc) with a clean feed which we can cast off of? Now we won't have game sound / music etc because we have to cast from the chinese stream where they are commentating in Chinese. We cast off a clean feed for WTL and it's no issue, I prefer it because of all the graphics, but it sucks that originally we had to restream a restream. At least now we are getting a direct feed from the chinese stream, so we can have higher quality but still no sounds. | ||
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lepricon1992
105 Posts
On January 06 2022 01:17 WardiTV wrote: You realize you get all of that (the overlay, desk, transitions, music etc) with a clean feed which we can cast off of? Now we won't have game sound / music etc because we have to cast from the chinese stream where they are commentating in Chinese. We cast off a clean feed for WTL and it's no issue, I prefer it because of all the graphics, but it sucks that originally we had to restream a restream. At least now we are getting a direct feed from the chinese stream, so we can have higher quality but still no sounds. IT'S a NetEase owned invitational, not WTL official match, SCboy have no right to issue permission unless NetEase allows them to. | ||
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WardiTV
601 Posts
On January 06 2022 01:58 lepricon1992 wrote: IT'S a NetEase owned invitational, not WTL official match, SCboy have no right to authorize permission unless NetEase allows them to. I know why, not complaining, they have every right to do so, just explaining the situation | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On January 06 2022 01:17 WardiTV wrote: You realize you get all of that (the overlay, desk, transitions, music etc) with a clean feed which we can cast off of? Now we won't have game sound / music etc because we have to cast from the chinese stream where they are commentating in Chinese. We cast off a clean feed for WTL and it's no issue, I prefer it because of all the graphics, but it sucks that originally we had to restream a restream. At least now we are getting a direct feed from the chinese stream, so we can have higher quality but still no sounds. Ah ok sorry, didn't understand that it right. | ||
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vyzion
308 Posts
On January 05 2022 02:24 pzlama333 wrote: That requires Ence to hire two more players to make a 3-people roster first. Anyway, Reynor's Qlash has confirmed that they plan to participate and look for more players. Whoa!! Looking forward to that | ||
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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spenzzer
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2450 Posts
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digmouse
China6331 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17732 Posts
On January 09 2022 17:27 digmouse wrote: What is Trap even doing here? Trap just hasn't been good lately, would've rather seen Zest | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17732 Posts
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digmouse
China6331 Posts
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Die4Ever
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buzz_bender
445 Posts
On January 09 2022 18:52 digmouse wrote: It has to come down to a single BO3 for Maru and Serral isnt it. Well, WTL could pick Rogue, knowing that the World team will pick Serral. | ||
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Xamo
Spain886 Posts
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HeroSandro
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2450 Posts
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HolydaKing
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On January 09 2022 19:57 HolydaKing wrote: Good job by Serral, I don't like how Rogue left the game quite early but to be fair he was severely behind and up against Serral. he also had no Queens left which means it would take ages until he could make units again. The game was over | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2450 Posts
On January 09 2022 19:57 HolydaKing wrote: Good job by Serral, I don't like how Rogue left the game quite early but to be fair he was severely behind and up against Serral. He lacked behind in economy, losing more drones than his opponent. It is right way to call for defeat. Serral was just lucky to not has his hatchery destroyed in time before Rogue ran out his lings. | ||
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Poopi
France12912 Posts
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tigera6
3484 Posts
On January 09 2022 20:38 Poopi wrote: Oh crap did not realize it was so early. Did Maru play well? He won game 1 thanks to a surprise BC attack with Bio following up. Then proceed to use the exact same opening in game 2, which Serral counter quite well. So yeah, he did fine, but could be better. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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Drfilip
Sweden592 Posts
On January 09 2022 23:06 mierin wrote: All of this was worth watching for that interview. Serral after winning a bunch of cash for his team: "it was relatively fun, i have to admit" I expected a lot of post game down time so I left as soon as I saw that final victory screen. That my sick wife had just gotten out of bed helped in changing activity. Have look up the VoD for that interview. I do like those online interviews. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On January 09 2022 20:03 swarminfestor wrote: He lacked behind in economy, losing more drones than his opponent. It is right way to call for defeat. Serral was just lucky to not has his hatchery destroyed in time before Rogue ran out his lings. Rogues entire gamplan is just dependent in Luck and build Orders. Even vs inferrior Players. So him getting the short end of the stick in his self imposed lottery just feels right. | ||
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tigera6
3484 Posts
On January 10 2022 02:31 dbRic1203 wrote: Rogues entire gamplan is just dependent in Luck and build Orders. Even vs inferrior Players. So him getting the short end of the stick in his self imposed lottery just feels right. There is a reason that Rogue is one of the best Bo7 players, its because he has time to lay down all the mind game and trickery along the series, or even the series before that. In a shorter series where both sides play with caution and somewhat more standard build order, Rogue isnt great. | ||
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