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China6282 Posts
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Poland101 Posts
This is so hype I can't even.
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that's a pretty sick prizepool for one showmatch
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Amazing roster, WTL has delivered again.
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Canada8764 Posts
Wow, nice! What's the format?
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Thats basically the most perfect set of matchups humanly possible. Even as can be, time vs. time, sweet as heck.
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This would be the last chance for reynor to represent THE WORLD, next year he will be in WTL xD
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China6282 Posts
You might noticed streams being down to scboy only. Working on solution because we just can't have nice things.
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Hoping we get permission to cast
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This looks insane and has to be one of the biggest prize pools for such an event ever. I really hope we can cast this as it will be amazing!
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Cool! Curious what the format will be. It sounds like each match is a "series", but unclear how winning team is determined.
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On January 05 2022 01:02 rwala wrote: Cool! Curious what the format will be. It sounds like each match is a "series", but unclear how winning team is determined.
Each match is 2 maps which builds into an overall BO9
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On January 05 2022 01:04 WardiTV wrote: Each match is 2 maps which builds into an overall BO9 So we might not get to see Maru vs Serral? As usual?
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On January 05 2022 01:39 CiuCiu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2022 01:04 WardiTV wrote: Each match is 2 maps which builds into an overall BO9 So we might not get to see Maru vs Serral? As usual? I think they will play 8 maps no matter what, similar to the WTL regular season format.
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I guess by having Clem representing WTL team produces much more hype, but then he may deemed as 'traitor' to World team by doing so. TIME as one of representative does not seem a bad at all.
Does Serral wish to participate in the next WTL?
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On January 05 2022 02:05 swarminfestor wrote: I guess by having Clem representing WTL team produces much more hype, but then he may deemed as 'traitor' to World team by doing so. TIME as one of representative does not seem a bad at all.
Does Serral wish to participate in the next WTL?
That requires Ence to hire two more players to make a 3-people roster first. Anyway, Reynor's Qlash has confirmed that they plan to participate and look for more players.
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China6282 Posts
On January 05 2022 02:05 swarminfestor wrote: I guess by having Clem representing WTL team produces much more hype, but then he may deemed as 'traitor' to World team by doing so. TIME as one of representative does not seem a bad at all.
Does Serral wish to participate in the next WTL? It's about "players in WTL" vs who are not, so Clem is in the WTL camp. And yeah he is there for the hype, as he isn't even close to being the best performing non Korean player in regular season, that would go to Scarlett.
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On January 05 2022 02:24 pzlama333 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2022 02:05 swarminfestor wrote: I guess by having Clem representing WTL team produces much more hype, but then he may deemed as 'traitor' to World team by doing so. TIME as one of representative does not seem a bad at all.
Does Serral wish to participate in the next WTL? That requires Ence to hire two more players to make a 3-people roster first. Anyway, Reynor's Qlash has confirmed that they plan to participate and look for more players.
Not sure ENCE would be entertaining a larger roster, they're staying with Serral as their lone player for years and it works fine.
As for QLASH, depends on who they will be recruiting. Free agents who are strong enough to get the team into high playoff contention aren't aplenty, so that means having to seek agreements with other teams for player transfers, or directly contacting said players. Either way I'm interested to see who would join Reynor, should be fine as long :
- They don't do it last minute. There's seeing how the Juggernauts team was built, and they didn't fare great in the qualifications. PREP qualified but their main season didn't pan out well
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Canada8764 Posts
On January 05 2022 02:45 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2022 02:05 swarminfestor wrote: I guess by having Clem representing WTL team produces much more hype, but then he may deemed as 'traitor' to World team by doing so. TIME as one of representative does not seem a bad at all.
Does Serral wish to participate in the next WTL? It's about "players in WTL" vs who are not, so Clem is in the WTL camp. And yeah he is there for the hype, as he isn't even close to being the best performing non Korean player in regular season, that would go to Scarlett.
Him and Scarlett are tied as 3rd best performer in the league (same score 15-7 and no ace for both). Maru and Trap are 1 and 2, Rogue is the outlier.
Edit: I'm talking about Time btw
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In almost 12 years of SC2 esports history, it's a precedent to lock the very best of the best SC2 players behind one language stream. It is fracturing the community behind a language-wall, and I, for one, will not watch, support, or cover it on LP in any way unless this decision is revised.
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On January 05 2022 07:52 rextor92 wrote: In almost 12 years of SC2 esports history, it's a precedent to lock the very best of the best SC2 players behind one language stream. It is fracturing the community behind a language-wall, and I, for one, will not watch, support, or cover it on LP in any way unless this decision is revised.
Seems like wardi gets the permission, all good
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Germany333 Posts
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Wow pretty sick match ! It should get to Maru vs Serral, I'm genuinely hyped
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Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/
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On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote: Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/
Wtf Big sad Could as well draw the maps on a Whiteboard then and Paint the game on there and it would probably be better quality the a Re-Re-Restream
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On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote: Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/
That is so strange. Did they ever explain why?
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Canada8764 Posts
On January 05 2022 21:37 buzz_bender wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote: Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/ That is so strange. Did they ever explain why?
I'm guessing they want full control over the broadcast. At the end of the day it's their event and their (quite considerable) money, it's reasonable that they want to be sure everyone know it's theirs.
If I'm honest, I kind of prefer that, obviously having to follow the chinese obs isn't the greatest, but I much preffer having all the WTL overlay, the desk, the transition, the music, the Hexagons and the weird shrimp add that come with watching a rebroadcast. It add some personal flavor to the event. (No offense to Wardi, but we do see your room pretty much every other tournament)
I have to say it's been a while since I've watch non-english SC2, but I seem to remember that either ESL or WCS did it that way too? (I could be wrong though)
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On January 06 2022 01:09 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2022 21:37 buzz_bender wrote:On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote: Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/ That is so strange. Did they ever explain why? I'm guessing they want full control over the broadcast. At the end of the day it's their event and their (quite considerable) money, it's reasonable that they want to be sure everyone know it's theirs. If I'm honest, I kind of prefer that, obviously having to follow the chinese obs isn't the greatest, but I much preffer having all the WTL overlay, the desk, the transition, the music, the Hexagons and the weird shrimp add that come with watching a rebroadcast. It add some personal flavor to the event. (No offense to Wardi, but we do see your room pretty much every other tournament) I have to say it's been a while since I've watch non-english SC2, but I seem to remember that either ESL or WCS did it that way too? (I could be wrong though)
You realize you get all of that (the overlay, desk, transitions, music etc) with a clean feed which we can cast off of? Now we won't have game sound / music etc because we have to cast from the chinese stream where they are commentating in Chinese. We cast off a clean feed for WTL and it's no issue, I prefer it because of all the graphics, but it sucks that originally we had to restream a restream. At least now we are getting a direct feed from the chinese stream, so we can have higher quality but still no sounds.
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On January 06 2022 01:17 WardiTV wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2022 01:09 Nakajin wrote:On January 05 2022 21:37 buzz_bender wrote:On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote: Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/ That is so strange. Did they ever explain why? I'm guessing they want full control over the broadcast. At the end of the day it's their event and their (quite considerable) money, it's reasonable that they want to be sure everyone know it's theirs. If I'm honest, I kind of prefer that, obviously having to follow the chinese obs isn't the greatest, but I much preffer having all the WTL overlay, the desk, the transition, the music, the Hexagons and the weird shrimp add that come with watching a rebroadcast. It add some personal flavor to the event. (No offense to Wardi, but we do see your room pretty much every other tournament) I have to say it's been a while since I've watch non-english SC2, but I seem to remember that either ESL or WCS did it that way too? (I could be wrong though) You realize you get all of that (the overlay, desk, transitions, music etc) with a clean feed which we can cast off of? Now we won't have game sound / music etc because we have to cast from the chinese stream where they are commentating in Chinese. We cast off a clean feed for WTL and it's no issue, I prefer it because of all the graphics, but it sucks that originally we had to restream a restream. At least now we are getting a direct feed from the chinese stream, so we can have higher quality but still no sounds.
IT'S a NetEase owned invitational, not WTL official match, SCboy have no right to issue permission unless NetEase allows them to.
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On January 06 2022 01:58 lepricon1992 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2022 01:17 WardiTV wrote:On January 06 2022 01:09 Nakajin wrote:On January 05 2022 21:37 buzz_bender wrote:On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote: Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/ That is so strange. Did they ever explain why? I'm guessing they want full control over the broadcast. At the end of the day it's their event and their (quite considerable) money, it's reasonable that they want to be sure everyone know it's theirs. If I'm honest, I kind of prefer that, obviously having to follow the chinese obs isn't the greatest, but I much preffer having all the WTL overlay, the desk, the transition, the music, the Hexagons and the weird shrimp add that come with watching a rebroadcast. It add some personal flavor to the event. (No offense to Wardi, but we do see your room pretty much every other tournament) I have to say it's been a while since I've watch non-english SC2, but I seem to remember that either ESL or WCS did it that way too? (I could be wrong though) You realize you get all of that (the overlay, desk, transitions, music etc) with a clean feed which we can cast off of? Now we won't have game sound / music etc because we have to cast from the chinese stream where they are commentating in Chinese. We cast off a clean feed for WTL and it's no issue, I prefer it because of all the graphics, but it sucks that originally we had to restream a restream. At least now we are getting a direct feed from the chinese stream, so we can have higher quality but still no sounds. IT'S a NetEase owned invitational, not WTL official match, SCboy have no right to authorize permission unless NetEase allows them to.
I know why, not complaining, they have every right to do so, just explaining the situation
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Canada8764 Posts
On January 06 2022 01:17 WardiTV wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2022 01:09 Nakajin wrote:On January 05 2022 21:37 buzz_bender wrote:On January 05 2022 19:27 Wardi wrote: Not sure I will cast still, our permission to stream is only to restream somebodies restream of the chinese stream. So no game sounds, no idea how quality will be :/ That is so strange. Did they ever explain why? I'm guessing they want full control over the broadcast. At the end of the day it's their event and their (quite considerable) money, it's reasonable that they want to be sure everyone know it's theirs. If I'm honest, I kind of prefer that, obviously having to follow the chinese obs isn't the greatest, but I much preffer having all the WTL overlay, the desk, the transition, the music, the Hexagons and the weird shrimp add that come with watching a rebroadcast. It add some personal flavor to the event. (No offense to Wardi, but we do see your room pretty much every other tournament) I have to say it's been a while since I've watch non-english SC2, but I seem to remember that either ESL or WCS did it that way too? (I could be wrong though) You realize you get all of that (the overlay, desk, transitions, music etc) with a clean feed which we can cast off of? Now we won't have game sound / music etc because we have to cast from the chinese stream where they are commentating in Chinese. We cast off a clean feed for WTL and it's no issue, I prefer it because of all the graphics, but it sucks that originally we had to restream a restream. At least now we are getting a direct feed from the chinese stream, so we can have higher quality but still no sounds.
Ah ok sorry, didn't understand that it right.
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On January 05 2022 02:24 pzlama333 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2022 02:05 swarminfestor wrote: I guess by having Clem representing WTL team produces much more hype, but then he may deemed as 'traitor' to World team by doing so. TIME as one of representative does not seem a bad at all.
Does Serral wish to participate in the next WTL? That requires Ence to hire two more players to make a 3-people roster first. Anyway, Reynor's Qlash has confirmed that they plan to participate and look for more players.
Whoa!! Looking forward to that
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Idk how its possible but the grey hair in this picture make Gabe look even greater and wise. He should be called the great gray gabe from now on
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Keep waiting 17 hours from now.
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China6282 Posts
What is Trap even doing here?
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On January 09 2022 17:27 digmouse wrote: What is Trap even doing here? Trap just hasn't been good lately, would've rather seen Zest
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I feel like that was sloppy leaving those immortals in view
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China6282 Posts
It has to come down to a single BO3 for Maru and Serral isnt it.
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these are some big hexagons
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On January 09 2022 18:52 digmouse wrote: It has to come down to a single BO3 for Maru and Serral isnt it.
Well, WTL could pick Rogue, knowing that the World team will pick Serral.
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I would have chosen Reynor because of Rogue.
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Lol it is Rogue vs Serral in ace match.
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Good job by Serral, I don't like how Rogue left the game quite early but to be fair he was severely behind and up against Serral.
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On January 09 2022 19:57 HolydaKing wrote: Good job by Serral, I don't like how Rogue left the game quite early but to be fair he was severely behind and up against Serral. he also had no Queens left which means it would take ages until he could make units again. The game was over
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On January 09 2022 19:57 HolydaKing wrote: Good job by Serral, I don't like how Rogue left the game quite early but to be fair he was severely behind and up against Serral.
He lacked behind in economy, losing more drones than his opponent. It is right way to call for defeat. Serral was just lucky to not has his hatchery destroyed in time before Rogue ran out his lings.
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France12466 Posts
Oh crap did not realize it was so early. Did Maru play well?
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On January 09 2022 20:38 Poopi wrote: Oh crap did not realize it was so early. Did Maru play well? He won game 1 thanks to a surprise BC attack with Bio following up. Then proceed to use the exact same opening in game 2, which Serral counter quite well. So yeah, he did fine, but could be better.
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All of this was worth watching for that interview. Serral after winning a bunch of cash for his team: "it was relatively fun, i have to admit"
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On January 09 2022 23:06 mierin wrote: All of this was worth watching for that interview. Serral after winning a bunch of cash for his team: "it was relatively fun, i have to admit" I expected a lot of post game down time so I left as soon as I saw that final victory screen. That my sick wife had just gotten out of bed helped in changing activity.
Have look up the VoD for that interview. I do like those online interviews.
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On January 09 2022 20:03 swarminfestor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2022 19:57 HolydaKing wrote: Good job by Serral, I don't like how Rogue left the game quite early but to be fair he was severely behind and up against Serral. He lacked behind in economy, losing more drones than his opponent. It is right way to call for defeat. Serral was just lucky to not has his hatchery destroyed in time before Rogue ran out his lings. Rogues entire gamplan is just dependent in Luck and build Orders. Even vs inferrior Players. So him getting the short end of the stick in his self imposed lottery just feels right.
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On January 10 2022 02:31 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2022 20:03 swarminfestor wrote:On January 09 2022 19:57 HolydaKing wrote: Good job by Serral, I don't like how Rogue left the game quite early but to be fair he was severely behind and up against Serral. He lacked behind in economy, losing more drones than his opponent. It is right way to call for defeat. Serral was just lucky to not has his hatchery destroyed in time before Rogue ran out his lings. Rogues entire gamplan is just dependent in Luck and build Orders. Even vs inferrior Players. So him getting the short end of the stick in his self imposed lottery just feels right. There is a reason that Rogue is one of the best Bo7 players, its because he has time to lay down all the mind game and trickery along the series, or even the series before that. In a shorter series where both sides play with caution and somewhat more standard build order, Rogue isnt great.
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