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On November 09 2020 05:03 Calliope wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2020 04:58 ytherik wrote:On November 09 2020 04:51 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:On November 09 2020 04:49 Calliope wrote:On November 09 2020 04:47 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:[B]On November 09 2020 04:46 ytherik wrote: TvZ looking rather sad for Z though ;( what are you talking about?! I don't understand anything. Is he angry that it is not a ZvZ finals like usual? Z has 70% win rates and the winners bracket winner is zerg... yes seems like maru loosing to a terran and serral splitting series with a terran is a sign of terran being OP... Why are you looking at the score only? The series Serral won vs Clem were 2x cheese wins and one barely won with many lucky bane hits. At no point it looked like Z has viable choices to put T under pressure except cheesing. It's just not the ZvT I loved to watch in the past so I am a little sad. It seems too one sided these days where T is doing constant aggression and Z can't do much about it except taking punches and hoping to survive until 3/3 and Hive tech. Nevertheless, Clem played phenomenally today. Congrats to him. This wierd and anachronistic balance whine is disregarding pretty much the entire tournament except the games vs Clem. What foremost needs lamenting is the state of P.
The state of P is tragic I agree.
Okay let's see what Reynor can do here, for a moment I forgot about the wonder kid
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On November 09 2020 05:03 Calliope wrote: What foremost needs lamenting is the state of P.
Needs mourning.
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On November 09 2020 05:03 Calliope wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2020 04:58 ytherik wrote:On November 09 2020 04:51 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:On November 09 2020 04:49 Calliope wrote:On November 09 2020 04:47 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:[B]On November 09 2020 04:46 ytherik wrote: TvZ looking rather sad for Z though ;( what are you talking about?! I don't understand anything. Is he angry that it is not a ZvZ finals like usual? Z has 70% win rates and the winners bracket winner is zerg... yes seems like maru loosing to a terran and serral splitting series with a terran is a sign of terran being OP... Why are you looking at the score only? The series Serral won vs Clem were 2x cheese wins and one barely won with many lucky bane hits. At no point it looked like Z has viable choices to put T under pressure except cheesing. It's just not the ZvT I loved to watch in the past so I am a little sad. It seems too one sided these days where T is doing constant aggression and Z can't do much about it except taking punches and hoping to survive until 3/3 and Hive tech. Nevertheless, Clem played phenomenally today. Congrats to him. This wierd and anachronistic balance whine is disregarding pretty much the entire tournament except the games vs Clem. What foremost needs lamenting is the state of P.
yeah broken logic and missed facts prevail here big time. We have now the dream finals of two wunderkinds!!!
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lets go Clem
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United States33075 Posts
On November 09 2020 05:01 Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2020 04:58 ytherik wrote:On November 09 2020 04:51 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:On November 09 2020 04:49 Calliope wrote:On November 09 2020 04:47 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:[B]On November 09 2020 04:46 ytherik wrote: TvZ looking rather sad for Z though ;( what are you talking about?! I don't understand anything. Is he angry that it is not a ZvZ finals like usual? Z has 70% win rates and the winners bracket winner is zerg... yes seems like maru loosing to a terran and serral splitting series with a terran is a sign of terran being OP... Why are you looking at the score only? The series Serral won vs Clem were 2x cheese wins and one barely won with many lucky bane hits. At no point it looked like Z has viable choices to put T under pressure except cheesing. It's just not the ZvT I loved to watch in the past so I am a little sad. It seems too one sided these days where T is doing constant aggression and Z can't do much about it except taking punches and hoping to survive until 3/3 and Hive tech. reynors g onna win this just watch the final
such a transparent reverse jinx
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On November 09 2020 05:05 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2020 05:03 Calliope wrote:On November 09 2020 04:58 ytherik wrote:On November 09 2020 04:51 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:On November 09 2020 04:49 Calliope wrote:On November 09 2020 04:47 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:[B]On November 09 2020 04:46 ytherik wrote: TvZ looking rather sad for Z though ;( what are you talking about?! I don't understand anything. Is he angry that it is not a ZvZ finals like usual? Z has 70% win rates and the winners bracket winner is zerg... yes seems like maru loosing to a terran and serral splitting series with a terran is a sign of terran being OP... Why are you looking at the score only? The series Serral won vs Clem were 2x cheese wins and one barely won with many lucky bane hits. At no point it looked like Z has viable choices to put T under pressure except cheesing. It's just not the ZvT I loved to watch in the past so I am a little sad. It seems too one sided these days where T is doing constant aggression and Z can't do much about it except taking punches and hoping to survive until 3/3 and Hive tech. Nevertheless, Clem played phenomenally today. Congrats to him. This wierd and anachronistic balance whine is disregarding pretty much the entire tournament except the games vs Clem. What foremost needs lamenting is the state of P. yeah broken logic and missed facts prevail here big time. We have now the dream finals of two wunderkinds!!!
It's a dream! I hope it will be as good as the two vs serral games. I don't really like Clem's chances with Reynor 1 game up and the first map being Jagganatha, though. Being a negative nancy I am also a bit scared of whathever impact fatigue may have. The Serral matches, particularly the first two maps seemed extremely intense.
Still, I trust these guys to give us the zvt this game was made for!
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Reynor 4-1, it feels like
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4-2 Reynor imo. Clem should be able to win Submarine and Oxide.
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How many maps up does he start again?
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On November 09 2020 04:50 ytherik wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2020 04:47 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:On November 09 2020 04:46 ytherik wrote: Well played by Clem, what a beast TvZ looking rather sad for Z though ;( what are you talking about?! The amount of effective builds/openings Terran can do right now vs Z seems crazy. Feels like Z has to either cheese or take punches for 12 minutes while scouting and defending perfectly to maybe have a slight chance in the late game. so hows it going?
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On November 09 2020 05:17 Gina wrote: How many maps up does he start again?
Well there is the one he earns from winning the upper bracket and then there is ZERGANNATHA!!
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Sorry, Xainon's answer is the right one =)
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On November 09 2020 05:18 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2020 04:50 ytherik wrote:On November 09 2020 04:47 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:On November 09 2020 04:46 ytherik wrote: Well played by Clem, what a beast TvZ looking rather sad for Z though ;( what are you talking about?! The amount of effective builds/openings Terran can do right now vs Z seems crazy. Feels like Z has to either cheese or take punches for 12 minutes while scouting and defending perfectly to maybe have a slight chance in the late game. so hows it going?
I would like to say that kid is already restoring my hope for Z but I would like to see some normal games first
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On November 09 2020 05:19 Gina wrote: Sorry, Xainon's answer is the right one =)
Oh okay, yeah, Jagannatha is a weird map. Why have something that lopsided in? Isn't it almost Lost temple levels of bad, where your nat was pretty much your opponent's nat.
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That wasn't even hold-position lurkers was it--just lurkers on the other side of the Line of Sight blockers...
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Clem pulling out miracle wins is a nice change of pace cos it felt last season it was the opposite. He was getting into good positions and then losing the epic games.
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Northern Ireland23721 Posts
On November 09 2020 05:02 Gina wrote: How about looking at this next series before coming to big conclusions? What absolute insanity is this? :O
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