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Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
October 07 2020 11:57 GMT
#221
The matches today are so sick
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7139 Posts
October 07 2020 11:58 GMT
#222
On October 07 2020 20:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2020 20:45 Luolis wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:45 darklycid wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:40 Luolis wrote:
Hots highlights make me warm and fuzzy inside.

Sounds like you need to rewatch mana vs firecake

It was a bad game and obviously things weren't perfect but overall hots was way better than lotv, and i'd return to it immediately given the chance.


Mana vs Firecake was the worst example of an ongoing problem in HoTS which was the Swarm Host. It wasn't the only game that was ruined by that unit, there were many of them.

Also during HoTS was the Blink All In meta vs Terran which was horrid and one of the worst balance periods the game has ever seen for one match up and that was all thanks to the Mothership Core.

HoTS had some great moments, but it had a LOT that was bad about it.

Early 2015-2016 LoTV was awful, but it's been much better on average since then.

EDIT: can't forget 2019 Zerg dominance, the worst that one race has dominated a year of play EVER since previous years of race dominance was either in the Foreign Scene OR Korean never one race dominated both that hard.

Yeah no shit, HotS had bad games forced by badly designed units and problems (sometimes big) with balance. I still maintain that overall it was a better game than LotV.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
October 07 2020 12:00 GMT
#223
Stats came so prepared to Terran bullshit it's amazing
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
October 07 2020 12:01 GMT
#224
On October 07 2020 20:58 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2020 20:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:45 Luolis wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:45 darklycid wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:40 Luolis wrote:
Hots highlights make me warm and fuzzy inside.

Sounds like you need to rewatch mana vs firecake

It was a bad game and obviously things weren't perfect but overall hots was way better than lotv, and i'd return to it immediately given the chance.


Mana vs Firecake was the worst example of an ongoing problem in HoTS which was the Swarm Host. It wasn't the only game that was ruined by that unit, there were many of them.

Also during HoTS was the Blink All In meta vs Terran which was horrid and one of the worst balance periods the game has ever seen for one match up and that was all thanks to the Mothership Core.

HoTS had some great moments, but it had a LOT that was bad about it.

Early 2015-2016 LoTV was awful, but it's been much better on average since then.

EDIT: can't forget 2019 Zerg dominance, the worst that one race has dominated a year of play EVER since previous years of race dominance was either in the Foreign Scene OR Korean never one race dominated both that hard.

Yeah no shit, HotS had bad games forced by badly designed units and problems (sometimes big) with balance. I still maintain that overall it was a better game than LotV.

I actually agree most of the lotv added units tend to be dumb (maybe except the lurker) meanwhile in hots only the sh was a really bad offender. And as a toss at least PvZ was more fun imo outside of sh.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
October 07 2020 12:02 GMT
#225
On October 07 2020 21:01 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2020 20:58 Luolis wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:45 Luolis wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:45 darklycid wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:40 Luolis wrote:
Hots highlights make me warm and fuzzy inside.

Sounds like you need to rewatch mana vs firecake

It was a bad game and obviously things weren't perfect but overall hots was way better than lotv, and i'd return to it immediately given the chance.


Mana vs Firecake was the worst example of an ongoing problem in HoTS which was the Swarm Host. It wasn't the only game that was ruined by that unit, there were many of them.

Also during HoTS was the Blink All In meta vs Terran which was horrid and one of the worst balance periods the game has ever seen for one match up and that was all thanks to the Mothership Core.

HoTS had some great moments, but it had a LOT that was bad about it.

Early 2015-2016 LoTV was awful, but it's been much better on average since then.

EDIT: can't forget 2019 Zerg dominance, the worst that one race has dominated a year of play EVER since previous years of race dominance was either in the Foreign Scene OR Korean never one race dominated both that hard.

Yeah no shit, HotS had bad games forced by badly designed units and problems (sometimes big) with balance. I still maintain that overall it was a better game than LotV.

I actually agree most of the lotv added units tend to be dumb (maybe except the lurker) meanwhile in hots only the sh was a really bad offender. And as a toss at least PvZ was more fun imo outside of sh.


Uh excuse me? The MSC was just as bad if not worse. There's a reason it's no longer in the game and everyone cheered when it was removed.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 07 2020 12:02 GMT
#226
Who would have thought that TvP, the biggest shitshow of most of LOTV will one day become the best, most balanced and exciting matchup to watch
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7139 Posts
October 07 2020 12:03 GMT
#227
On October 07 2020 21:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2020 21:01 darklycid wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:58 Luolis wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:45 Luolis wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:45 darklycid wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:40 Luolis wrote:
Hots highlights make me warm and fuzzy inside.

Sounds like you need to rewatch mana vs firecake

It was a bad game and obviously things weren't perfect but overall hots was way better than lotv, and i'd return to it immediately given the chance.


Mana vs Firecake was the worst example of an ongoing problem in HoTS which was the Swarm Host. It wasn't the only game that was ruined by that unit, there were many of them.

Also during HoTS was the Blink All In meta vs Terran which was horrid and one of the worst balance periods the game has ever seen for one match up and that was all thanks to the Mothership Core.

HoTS had some great moments, but it had a LOT that was bad about it.

Early 2015-2016 LoTV was awful, but it's been much better on average since then.

EDIT: can't forget 2019 Zerg dominance, the worst that one race has dominated a year of play EVER since previous years of race dominance was either in the Foreign Scene OR Korean never one race dominated both that hard.

Yeah no shit, HotS had bad games forced by badly designed units and problems (sometimes big) with balance. I still maintain that overall it was a better game than LotV.

I actually agree most of the lotv added units tend to be dumb (maybe except the lurker) meanwhile in hots only the sh was a really bad offender. And as a toss at least PvZ was more fun imo outside of sh.


Uh excuse me? The MSC was just as bad if not worse. There's a reason it's no longer in the game and everyone cheered when it was removed.

I know this is a controversial opinion but even though it wasn't very good design, i feel like nexus cannon made for better protoss matchups than shield battery.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
October 07 2020 12:07 GMT
#228
On October 07 2020 21:03 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2020 21:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 07 2020 21:01 darklycid wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:58 Luolis wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:45 Luolis wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:45 darklycid wrote:
On October 07 2020 20:40 Luolis wrote:
Hots highlights make me warm and fuzzy inside.

Sounds like you need to rewatch mana vs firecake

It was a bad game and obviously things weren't perfect but overall hots was way better than lotv, and i'd return to it immediately given the chance.


Mana vs Firecake was the worst example of an ongoing problem in HoTS which was the Swarm Host. It wasn't the only game that was ruined by that unit, there were many of them.

Also during HoTS was the Blink All In meta vs Terran which was horrid and one of the worst balance periods the game has ever seen for one match up and that was all thanks to the Mothership Core.

HoTS had some great moments, but it had a LOT that was bad about it.

Early 2015-2016 LoTV was awful, but it's been much better on average since then.

EDIT: can't forget 2019 Zerg dominance, the worst that one race has dominated a year of play EVER since previous years of race dominance was either in the Foreign Scene OR Korean never one race dominated both that hard.

Yeah no shit, HotS had bad games forced by badly designed units and problems (sometimes big) with balance. I still maintain that overall it was a better game than LotV.

I actually agree most of the lotv added units tend to be dumb (maybe except the lurker) meanwhile in hots only the sh was a really bad offender. And as a toss at least PvZ was more fun imo outside of sh.


Uh excuse me? The MSC was just as bad if not worse. There's a reason it's no longer in the game and everyone cheered when it was removed.

I know this is a controversial opinion but even though it wasn't very good design, i feel like nexus cannon made for better protoss matchups than shield battery.

Yes, msc wasn't the best design but lotv pylon cannon was a worse offender than nexus cannon in hots later on it wasn't that toxic imo, also with it's recall recall had some risk with it.
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
October 07 2020 12:07 GMT
#229
That's how it goes when the raven lands its matrix.
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
October 07 2020 12:07 GMT
#230
Also as expected fast 3cc is pretty good vs this sg opener.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
October 07 2020 12:08 GMT
#231
NO THIRD BASE FOR YOU!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
October 07 2020 12:09 GMT
#232
On October 07 2020 21:07 darklycid wrote:
Also as expected fast 3cc is pretty good vs this sg opener.


Yea how silly of me, the typical Zerg response to seeing Phoenix is to just make hatcheries. Works for Terran too I guess.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
October 07 2020 12:10 GMT
#233
It's something to see just how much better Maru looks vs Stats than Byun did. Really shows the difference in their respective skill levels. No offense to Byun he DID just come back.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 07 2020 12:11 GMT
#234
Wow stats held so long for a 2 bases vs 4 bases scenario
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
October 07 2020 12:12 GMT
#235
Watching Maru's FPV is really a treat. The way he dodge those disruptor shots is really awesome
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
October 07 2020 12:13 GMT
#236
Stats clicked right next to it and then turned around before getting there
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
October 07 2020 12:14 GMT
#237
I still think Maru/Stats will advance here (whoever goes first), they just look like another level so far.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 07 2020 12:14 GMT
#238
Maru the destroyer of toss is back?

Non-stop widow mine drops even against phoenix (check)
No viking play vs Colossus (check)
Immortal Maruders (check)
Proxies (check)
Insane multiprong (check)
Brutal ending by pushing with his bio into the middle of the Collosi/disruptor (check)

That being said, Stats is playing insanely well too, anyone can take this
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
October 07 2020 12:16 GMT
#239
On October 07 2020 21:14 darklycid wrote:
I still think Maru/Stats will advance here (whoever goes first), they just look like another level so far.


PvP is a shit show though, I like Stats in that match up vs anyone too, but who knows what happens when Parting is involved.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
October 07 2020 12:16 GMT
#240
On October 07 2020 21:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2020 21:14 darklycid wrote:
I still think Maru/Stats will advance here (whoever goes first), they just look like another level so far.


PvP is a shit show though, I like Stats in that match up vs anyone too, but who knows what happens when Parting is involved.

you are not watching enough PvP aren't you?
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
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