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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
September 19 2020 18:18 GMT
#941
On September 20 2020 03:17 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 03:16 virpi wrote:
Serral still is almost unbeatable if he gets ahead.

Unless he is very Reynor, lmao.

Reynor is Serral's kryptonite.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
September 19 2020 18:18 GMT
#942
On September 20 2020 03:16 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 03:14 Javah wrote:
On September 20 2020 03:11 Luolis wrote:
This game has been over for a couple minutes now.

Yes but Serral almost threw it away with his banes sacrifice O.o

It's tough to micro in 2 screens at once mate.

That's for sure and for both players It was just a matter of fact, not a critic against Serral.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
September 19 2020 18:20 GMT
#943
On September 20 2020 03:18 virpi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 03:17 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 20 2020 03:16 virpi wrote:
Serral still is almost unbeatable if he gets ahead.

Unless he is very Reynor, lmao.

Reynor is Serral's kryptonite.

I think Serral is having a bit of a struggle in general with ZvZ (he's said as much I believe) and Reynor is just the highest level Zerg he routinely faces. His ZvZ win rate is actually 15% below his non-mirrors for 2020.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
September 19 2020 18:21 GMT
#944
If Korean Terran logic holds true, Clem is a FOOL for not vetoing Golden Wall. For some undisclosed reason.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
September 19 2020 18:23 GMT
#945
On September 20 2020 03:20 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 03:18 virpi wrote:
On September 20 2020 03:17 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 20 2020 03:16 virpi wrote:
Serral still is almost unbeatable if he gets ahead.

Unless he is very Reynor, lmao.

Reynor is Serral's kryptonite.

I think Serral is having a bit of a struggle in general with ZvZ (he's said as much I believe) and Reynor is just the highest level Zerg he routinely faces. His ZvZ win rate is actually 15% below his non-mirrors for 2020.

ZvZ is very volatile, Serral never really felt comfortable playing mutas iirc. But there aren't many zerg players who can actually beat Serral in a ZvZ series. Reynor, Rogue, Dark. Maybe Scarlett if she manages to cheese him. The others don't win more than 2 games in a BO5+
first we make expand, then we defense it.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-19 18:25:35
September 19 2020 18:25 GMT
#946
On September 20 2020 03:23 virpi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 03:20 Elentos wrote:
On September 20 2020 03:18 virpi wrote:
On September 20 2020 03:17 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 20 2020 03:16 virpi wrote:
Serral still is almost unbeatable if he gets ahead.

Unless he is very Reynor, lmao.

Reynor is Serral's kryptonite.

I think Serral is having a bit of a struggle in general with ZvZ (he's said as much I believe) and Reynor is just the highest level Zerg he routinely faces. His ZvZ win rate is actually 15% below his non-mirrors for 2020.

ZvZ is very volatile, Serral never really felt comfortable playing mutas iirc. But there aren't many zerg players who can actually beat Serral in a ZvZ series. Reynor, Rogue, Dark. Maybe Scarlett if she manages to cheese him. The others don't win more than 2 games in a BO5+

Elazer still holds the h2h this year against Serral even if Elazer lost the most recent one. Otherwise you are very right
Faker is the GOAT!
greenturtle23
Profile Joined August 2019
86 Posts
September 19 2020 18:26 GMT
#947
On September 20 2020 03:20 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 03:18 virpi wrote:
On September 20 2020 03:17 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 20 2020 03:16 virpi wrote:
Serral still is almost unbeatable if he gets ahead.

Unless he is very Reynor, lmao.

Reynor is Serral's kryptonite.

I think Serral is having a bit of a struggle in general with ZvZ (he's said as much I believe) and Reynor is just the highest level Zerg he routinely faces. His ZvZ win rate is actually 15% below his non-mirrors for 2020.

I would think most high level Zergs would have a lower ZvZ win rate than the non-mirrors.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 19 2020 18:26 GMT
#948
On September 20 2020 03:21 Elentos wrote:
If Korean Terran logic holds true, Clem is a FOOL for not vetoing Golden Wall. For some undisclosed reason.


The statistics are certainly heavily on Clem's side: (Wiki)Statistics/2020
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7169 Posts
September 19 2020 18:26 GMT
#949
Serral forgot 2-2
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
September 19 2020 18:26 GMT
#950
On September 20 2020 03:21 Elentos wrote:
If Korean Terran logic holds true, Clem is a FOOL for not vetoing Golden Wall. For some undisclosed reason.

Looking at the mini-map at the 8mn mark maybe we are onto something
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 19 2020 18:27 GMT
#951
On September 20 2020 03:26 greenturtle23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2020 03:20 Elentos wrote:
On September 20 2020 03:18 virpi wrote:
On September 20 2020 03:17 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 20 2020 03:16 virpi wrote:
Serral still is almost unbeatable if he gets ahead.

Unless he is very Reynor, lmao.

Reynor is Serral's kryptonite.

I think Serral is having a bit of a struggle in general with ZvZ (he's said as much I believe) and Reynor is just the highest level Zerg he routinely faces. His ZvZ win rate is actually 15% below his non-mirrors for 2020.

I would think most high level Zergs would have a lower ZvZ win rate than the non-mirrors.


No comment. Serral's ZvZ used to be his most successful matchup, you know?
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-19 18:31:08
September 19 2020 18:28 GMT
#952
On September 20 2020 03:02 JJH777 wrote:
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On September 20 2020 02:58 stilt wrote:
On September 20 2020 02:45 virpi wrote:
On September 20 2020 02:44 Xain0n wrote:
On September 20 2020 02:40 Poopi wrote:
This series lmao
Sad matchup especially cross server


Pretty sad comments, did you miss Inno winning 3-1 against Rogue before?
At this point 90% of your posts are whining.

Welcome to TL. It has been whining since day 1. Sadly.


I wonder if letting a trash thread dedicated to balance whine while enforcing the rules against balance whining on tourney thread will be good, it's polluting the thread and pretty disrespectful.


What's disrespectful is pretending like all these all time great T/P players are just bad. Because if you are saying the game is balanced you are saying every T/P player besides Maru in 2018 has been worse than the top 4 Zergs for almost 3 years straight.


There is a difference between pointing imbalance in dedicated thread or here occasionally because your favorite players loses and belittling every single map win by a Z player like it is the trend nowadays.
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-19 18:29:36
September 19 2020 18:29 GMT
#953
Serral forgetting 2/2 for an eternity cost him the game. gg Clem!
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 19 2020 18:29 GMT
#954
Go Go Go CLEM
MaxPax
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 19 2020 18:29 GMT
#955
Serral looks extra bothered recently anytime he loses. I feel like I didn't see this too much in 2019/2018, though maybe its just because we are getting insta cameras as he ggs?
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-19 18:30:39
September 19 2020 18:30 GMT
#956
On September 20 2020 03:29 Pandain wrote:
Serral looks extra bothered recently anytime he loses. I feel like I didn't see this too much in 2019/2018, though maybe its just because we are getting insta cameras as he ggs?


I think it's because he is at home, the environnement is different.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
September 19 2020 18:30 GMT
#957
On September 20 2020 03:29 Pandain wrote:
Serral looks extra bothered recently anytime he loses. I feel like I didn't see this too much in 2019/2018, though maybe its just because we are getting insta cameras as he ggs?

With offline tournaments there was always cameras on them too though. Maybe it's being stuck in Finland
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ytherik
Profile Joined July 2020
199 Posts
September 19 2020 18:31 GMT
#958
On September 20 2020 03:29 Pandain wrote:
Serral looks extra bothered recently anytime he loses. I feel like I didn't see this too much in 2019/2018, though maybe its just because we are getting insta cameras as he ggs?


Well he did not lose often in 2018/19. But those times he did he usually looked pretty angry as well.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-19 18:31:41
September 19 2020 18:31 GMT
#959
I won't lie, not going mutas was expensive in this game, feels like he just got stretched too tight.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 19 2020 18:32 GMT
#960
You just have to love Twitch chat
Complains over the incoming ZvZ final, while there is no Zerg in the upper half of the breaket
MaxPax
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