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[GSL 2020] Code S - Grand Finals - Page 26

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Estraizher
Profile Joined December 2014
289 Posts
June 06 2020 09:59 GMT
#501
On June 06 2020 18:56 outscar wrote:
Prize pool for 1st place shrunk... ouch.


Could always makes up the difference by going back to casting and getting that casting paycheck
~
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
June 06 2020 09:59 GMT
#502
On June 06 2020 18:56 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 18:54 Mallyx wrote:
The worst one was definitely NesTea vs Inca. I mean, these were just random DT rushes all series long with NesTea just crushing all of them with ease.


Nestea - Inca was the only finals I didn't even feel like one of the finalists had any business of being in the playoffs, let alone the finals.


Strong MKP - sOs Hot6ix energy
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 10:00:01
June 06 2020 09:59 GMT
#503
On June 06 2020 18:57 fastr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 18:55 Ej_ wrote:
On June 06 2020 18:53 fastr wrote:
I think we can all agree that WoL had worse finals, but as far as LotV, this is probably the worst one so far.

I mean it's competing with sOs vs ByuN, Trap vs Dark/Rogue and the hilarious, but still ridiculously one-sided Maru vs Zest


I mean I love ByuN so I might be biased, but I don't see how a 4-1 TvP is worse than a 4-0 mirror, even if TvT is the most tolerable one.
Rogue/Trap, now that was a shit final, and possibly worse than this one.

ByuN - sOs was extremely one-sided and TvP was already terrible, but I wouldn't say it was a terrible series either
yeah both finals lost by Trap vZ were boring and horrible, honeslty even the Dark one was sad
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9959 Posts
June 06 2020 09:59 GMT
#504
That was literally no fun at all
RIP Meatloaf <3
20-Minute-Jackal
Profile Joined May 2015
United States336 Posts
June 06 2020 10:00 GMT
#505
A quick 4-0 in the old GomTvT finals.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 06 2020 10:01 GMT
#506
On June 06 2020 18:59 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 18:56 Zealously wrote:
On June 06 2020 18:54 Mallyx wrote:
The worst one was definitely NesTea vs Inca. I mean, these were just random DT rushes all series long with NesTea just crushing all of them with ease.


Nestea - Inca was the only finals I didn't even feel like one of the finalists had any business of being in the playoffs, let alone the finals.


Strong MKP - sOs Hot6ix energy

Now, the SCV pull into scanning 6 cannons and sending back the SCVs and then changing your mind and pulling your SCVs again and dying on the cannons was amazing. You cannot take that way from me.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
June 06 2020 10:02 GMT
#507
So in hindsight B was the group of Death
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
June 06 2020 10:02 GMT
#508
On June 06 2020 19:01 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 18:59 munch wrote:
On June 06 2020 18:56 Zealously wrote:
On June 06 2020 18:54 Mallyx wrote:
The worst one was definitely NesTea vs Inca. I mean, these were just random DT rushes all series long with NesTea just crushing all of them with ease.


Nestea - Inca was the only finals I didn't even feel like one of the finalists had any business of being in the playoffs, let alone the finals.


Strong MKP - sOs Hot6ix energy

Now, the SCV pull into scanning 6 cannons and sending back the SCVs and then changing your mind and pulling your SCVs again and dying on the cannons was amazing. You cannot take that way from me.


Hey, I was commenting on the quality of the player, not on whether or not it was hilarious
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 06 2020 10:03 GMT
#509
A 4-0 mirror sweep is even more crushing - gap can't be due to imbalance, playstyle, etc.
gg no re thx
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
June 06 2020 10:03 GMT
#510
On June 06 2020 18:58 munch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 18:53 fastr wrote:
I think we can all agree that WoL had worse finals, but as far as LotV, this is probably the worst one so far.


I think that you can't judge the WoL games with 2020 hindsight; you have to look at them with the meta and general level of play at the time in mind. I have much higher expectations watching GSL S1 2020 than rewatching some 2011 match.

Also, WoL gave us Leenock-jjakji, which is still the best GSL Finals that I've seen


Sure it's easy to shit on WoL games with the benefit of a decade of hindsight, but I remember that even at that time, gsl finals being terrible was literally a meme because of how bad and noncompetitive the games were compared to everything else.

I agree with Leenock-jjakji being an incredible finals though.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
June 06 2020 10:06 GMT
#511
On June 06 2020 19:03 RKC wrote:
A 4-0 mirror sweep is even more crushing - gap can't be due to imbalance, playstyle, etc.

Playstyle matters quite a bit in TvT tbh. But yeah Cure fell apart because of a mixture of skill gap and lack of experience. He made a lot of mistakes.
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fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
June 06 2020 10:08 GMT
#512
Let's hope TSL games tonight are better! I have high hopes with how good they've been so far.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
June 06 2020 10:08 GMT
#513
I've been looking for that GSL finals power rank that was done some time ago here on liquipedia and I can't seem to find it. Can anyone help ? This should be relevant here
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
June 06 2020 10:09 GMT
#514
On June 06 2020 19:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 19:03 RKC wrote:
A 4-0 mirror sweep is even more crushing - gap can't be due to imbalance, playstyle, etc.

Playstyle matters quite a bit in TvT tbh. But yeah Cure fell apart because of a mixture of skill gap and lack of experience. He made a lot of mistakes.


Cure definitely didn't look good this series, but that also makes it three in a row where we're saying that TY's opponent looked bad. It's also because TY makes them look bad, and because his preparation gives him leads which force opponents to do high risk moves.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 10:15:04
June 06 2020 10:14 GMT
#515
On June 06 2020 19:09 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 19:06 Elentos wrote:
On June 06 2020 19:03 RKC wrote:
A 4-0 mirror sweep is even more crushing - gap can't be due to imbalance, playstyle, etc.

Playstyle matters quite a bit in TvT tbh. But yeah Cure fell apart because of a mixture of skill gap and lack of experience. He made a lot of mistakes.


Cure definitely didn't look good this series, but that also makes it three in a row where we're saying that TY's opponent looked bad. It's also because TY makes them look bad, and because his preparation gives him leads which force opponents to do high risk moves.

I think very high preparation time definitely tends to generate bad series. High preparation builds usually don't normally produce great games due to their extreme nature, they generally stomp or get stomped. This is not very different from the reason why teamkills are very often terrible and gimmicky. So in the end it's not that surprising if good GSL finals are more the exception than the norm.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
June 06 2020 10:20 GMT
#516
I don't think it's just the prep time alone though. That would affect the semis and Ro8 just as much, and those see good series much more regularly than the GSL finals.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 10:32:20
June 06 2020 10:24 GMT
#517
On June 06 2020 19:20 Elentos wrote:
I don't think it's just the prep time alone though. That would affect the semis and Ro8 just as much, and those see good series much more regularly than the GSL finals.

That's true, there has to be something more. But it definitely has an impact, weekenders deliver far more memorable series than GSL imo.

btw no one can find that GSL finals power rank ?

gotcha !
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/438145-gsl-finals-retrospective-part-1-23-8
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/439780-gsl-finals-retrospective-part-2-7-1
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
June 06 2020 10:33 GMT
#518
is this it for TY? retire to cast? he's definitely the smartest terran around.
maybe the next challenge is to cast at the same time he plays?
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
June 06 2020 10:36 GMT
#519
On June 06 2020 19:33 shadymmj wrote:
is this it for TY? retire to cast? he's definitely the smartest terran around.
maybe the next challenge is to cast at the same time he plays?

yeah casually streaming and commentating his play while winning the finals. That would be golden ^^
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
June 06 2020 10:37 GMT
#520
On June 06 2020 19:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 19:20 Elentos wrote:
I don't think it's just the prep time alone though. That would affect the semis and Ro8 just as much, and those see good series much more regularly than the GSL finals.

That's true, there has to be something more. But it definitely has an impact, weekenders deliver far more memorable series than GSL imo.

btw no one can find that GSL finals power rank ?

gotcha !
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/438145-gsl-finals-retrospective-part-1-23-8
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/439780-gsl-finals-retrospective-part-2-7-1

It's over 6 years old already at this point, needs an update
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