EPTOn November 18 2019 09:13 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Clem too good.
Sad I won't be able to show the awful photoshop I prepared for our win ;f
Clem too good.
Sad I won't be able to show the awful photoshop I prepared for our win ;f
Post it anyway
[NationWars 2019] Ro16 thread - Page 17
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24405 Posts
Post it anyway | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
Nyah. Maybe next year if we face France again. And if I still have that file on my drive  | ||
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Boggyb
2855 Posts
On November 18 2019 09:15 starkiller123 wrote: Not a bad bracket! Yeah. On the one hand, it is sad that one of the countries with an actual team (Germany and France) is guaranteed to be eliminated and another is the under dog (Mexico), but USA is probably the #2 group finisher with the best chance of taking down Finland and Canada being sacrificed to South Korea means that Mexico and France aren't. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On November 18 2019 11:54 Boggyb wrote: Yeah. On the one hand, it is sad that one of the countries with an actual team (Germany and France) is guaranteed to be eliminated and another is the under dog (Mexico), but USA is probably the #2 group finisher with the best chance of taking down Finland and Canada being sacrificed to South Korea means that Mexico and France aren't. Yeah, Canada looks like the weakest Team in Ro8 by far, so having them as a sacrifical lamb for Korea is kind of fitting. Looks like realy tough way ahead for Germany Lambo said on stream he d prefer Can>USA>Fra, so in his eyes this is the hardest opponent.. . | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On November 18 2019 14:36 dbRic1203 wrote: Yeah, Canada looks like the weakest Team in Ro8 by far, so having them as a sacrifical lamb for Korea is kind of fitting. Looks like realy tough way ahead for Germany Lambo said on stream he d prefer Can>USA>Fra, so in his eyes this is the hardest opponent.. . Lambo just sticking up for the EU scene haha France is very good and has a well-rounded team, but they don't have a player of the caliber of Neeb and that has shown to be the biggest asset to a team, even in a mixed format. IMO: KR > FIN > GER > MEX = USA = ITA > FRA > CAN * I'd say Mexico, the US and Italy are all about the same power level but if I had to choose that would be the order of strongest to weakest | ||
Poopi
France12761 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6805 Posts
On November 18 2019 14:40 TentativePanda wrote: Lambo just sticking up for the EU scene haha France is very good and has a well-rounded team, but they don't have a player of the caliber of Neeb and that has shown to be the biggest asset to a team, even in a mixed format. IMO: KR > FIN > GER > MEX = USA = ITA > FRA > CAN * I'd say Mexico, the US and Italy are all about the same power level but if I had to choose that would be the order of strongest to weakest I would put ITA before MEX and USA because of the single fact that Reynor plays Zerg and Special and Neeb don't | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On November 18 2019 19:11 Harris1st wrote: I would put ITA before MEX and USA because of the single fact that Reynor plays Zerg and Special and Neeb don't Ro8 is on the new patch allready, so that s probably not true anymore. But I would still rate Mexico below USA and ITA. The question is, how good are MLord and Clem be after the patch? Especially Clem has been crushing it and I would consider him the strongest french player right now, up there with foreigner Terrans like Special, Big Gabe and Time | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6805 Posts
On November 18 2019 19:34 dbRic1203 wrote: Ro8 is on the new patch allready, so that s probably not true anymore. But I would still rate Mexico below USA and ITA. The question is, how good are MLord and Clem be after the patch? Especially Clem has been crushing it and I would consider him the strongest french player right now, up there with foreigner Terrans like Special, Big Gabe and Time Oh. So when is the Ro8 exactly? | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24405 Posts
On November 18 2019 14:40 TentativePanda wrote: Lambo just sticking up for the EU scene haha France is very good and has a well-rounded team, but they don't have a player of the caliber of Neeb and that has shown to be the biggest asset to a team, even in a mixed format. IMO: KR > FIN > GER > MEX = USA = ITA > FRA > CAN * I'd say Mexico, the US and Italy are all about the same power level but if I had to choose that would be the order of strongest to weakest Neeb’s still scary but he’s not quite the prospect he was a couple of years ago. Now he’s just a better player than France’s boys but not a whole other level above like Serral would be. I quite fancy France’s chances. Clem has really good vP from what I’ve seen and Marinelord is no slouch plus has practiced a lot on this patch. This patch may end up with Protoss being fine vT, but I think initially they’re going to struggle a lot. The current meta if we’re not cheesing is a really greedy third and powering hard. Neeb is even greedier than most in this respect and I’m not sure the charge nerf specifically will allow us to be that greedy and it’ll take time to work out. I’m sure many of us have seen plenty of games where the Protoss barely, barely holds the initial big Terran push. I don’t think we hold those on the upcoming patch so we’ll have to work out where the greed/safety line is and I’m not sure we will have figured that out by the time the patch hits. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On November 18 2019 21:09 Wombat_NI wrote: Neeb’s still scary but he’s not quite the prospect he was a couple of years ago. Now he’s just a better player than France’s boys but not a whole other level above like Serral would be. I quite fancy France’s chances. Clem has really good vP from what I’ve seen and Marinelord is no slouch plus has practiced a lot on this patch. This patch may end up with Protoss being fine vT, but I think initially they’re going to struggle a lot. The current meta if we’re not cheesing is a really greedy third and powering hard. Neeb is even greedier than most in this respect and I’m not sure the charge nerf specifically will allow us to be that greedy and it’ll take time to work out. I’m sure many of us have seen plenty of games where the Protoss barely, barely holds the initial big Terran push. I don’t think we hold those on the upcoming patch so we’ll have to work out where the greed/safety line is and I’m not sure we will have figured that out by the time the patch hits. Maybe I'm just being a homer but I do think Neeb is on a completely different level especially now that he got back his legendary lategame PvZ. I think Neeb will be fine against any Terran except a Korean one, even with the dumb chargelot nerf, and the only way he'll run into one of those is if America makes it to the finals. Well, Special might be dangerous as well since he will probably be among the first to find away to be abusive with the new patch lol. Thank FLASH that the ro8 will be played on the new patch though. Neeb is more than capable of beating Serral as long as lategame is not auto win for Zerg. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On November 18 2019 16:59 Poopi wrote: Oh shit we drawed the strongest team, hopefully we survive for the offline part :x You think Germany is stronger Korea and Finland? | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
Ro8 starts at the 30th of November. The Patch hits at the 26th. (or at HSC, for tournaments) | ||
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
On November 18 2019 21:52 BerserkSword wrote: You think Germany is stronger Korea and Finland? I don't consider Finland a real team since only Serral is competitive. On the more balanced patch, Serral is probably mortal and you can prepare only against him whereas Germany has 2 blizzcon caliber players and a good player, with all three races. South Korea is usually stronger than Germany, but since it's online with lag and potentially bad hours for Korea again, I'd say Germany is more difficult than the weakened South Korea. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6805 Posts
On November 18 2019 22:02 dbRic1203 wrote: Ro8 starts at the 30th of November. The Patch hits at the 26th. (or at HSC, for tournaments) Shot! I hoped it was this weekend | ||
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Slydie
1913 Posts
On the more balanced patch, Serral is probably mortal This is one of the big question. Serral is not afraid of going for big attacks if he smells blood, he just might have to do it some more if the lategame plan is not as reliable. | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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Kitai
United States869 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On November 19 2019 18:35 Slydie wrote: This is one of the big question. Serral is not afraid of going for big attacks if he smells blood, he just might have to do it some more if the lategame plan is not as reliable. He won BlizzCon 2018, when Protoss had the Supreme lategame | ||
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