EPT[WCS 2018] DreamHack Austin - Round of 16 - Page 5
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gobbledydook
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yangluphil
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The real problem which was that the MU was completely early game dominated, is not addressed and I expect Classic/Zest/herO to continue their PvT streaks. Though their window for carrying early game advantages over to mid-late game will be shortened. This is what happens when you address a matchup design problem with a balance patch. | ||
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Ej_
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On June 03 2018 02:50 yangluphil wrote: The new patch does not nerf aggressive PvT styles that much, but it's made mid to late game unplayable for protosses. It was already pretty bad for either PvT or TvP. Just look up Neeb, ShowTime, Stats, Trap's PvT records, and Bogus' TvP. Now it's completely one sided for Terrans. The real problem which was that the MU was completely early game dominated, is not addressed and I expect Classic/Zest/herO to continue their PvT streaks. Though their window for carrying early game advantages over to mid-late game will be shortened. This is what happens when you address a matchup design problem with a balance patch. So what race is OP? Terran? Protoss? Is it Zerg? | ||
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Durnuu
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On June 03 2018 02:47 gobbledydook wrote: The game quality of DNS vs Heromarine...compare that to Byun vs Stats yesterday.... hide the names and you could never tell! | ||
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Fango
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Die4Ever
United States17721 Posts
On June 03 2018 02:55 Fango wrote: Man it's really all mirrors until the end of the day? Bly vs Special is the last match | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
That's what I meant lol | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On June 03 2018 02:55 Fango wrote: Man it's really all mirrors until the end of the day? ZvZ is fun! | ||
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yangluphil
318 Posts
Between January and February, protoss was op in PvT and Zerg was op in ZvP. Since then Protoss was op in early PvT and terran was op in early TvP. Terran was op in late game TvZ. For this patch, I think terran is op in TvP but protosses seem to figure out PvZ so they might be slightly advantageous or less UP in that MU. Can't say too much for TvZ for now, but I would guess it's in good shape. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
The best part of ZvZ is that it can over quicker than the other matchups. Although it does have some nice quirks to it, it just isn't as good as the other matchups | ||
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Zaros
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Penev
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On June 03 2018 03:00 yangluphil wrote: Between January and February, protoss was op in PvT and Zerg was op in ZvP. Since then Protoss was op in early PvT and terran was op in early TvP. Terran was op in late game TvZ. For this patch, I think terran is op in TvP but protosses seem to figure out PvZ so they might be slightly advantageous in that MU. Can't say too much for TvZ for now, but I would guess it's in good shape. But none of it matters because Serral will win Austin and Rogue will win GSL regardless | ||
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yangluphil
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
Yes. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On June 03 2018 03:03 Penev wrote: TRUE looking good, almost foreign zerg level how is it possible?! he's evolving! | ||
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yangluphil
318 Posts
On June 03 2018 03:03 Fango wrote: But none of it matters because Serral will win Austin and Rogue will win GSL regardless It matters. Rogue would not be able to take down Maru in a GSL bo7 set up in the last patch. IEM was totally different as in Maru did not know he would fight Rogue and there was no time for him to prepare for or adjust to Rogue's all ins. Rogue admitted he could not win lategame ZvT vs Maru. But yeah patch does not matter for who will win WCS, unless they hammer down Zerg with a major patch (undeserved imo). | ||
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Shellshock
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Zaros
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