sOs certainly made some mistakes that series, but as someone who's followed Oregon Ducks football for 15 years, I'm used to people who don't understand forced errors telling me my team's wins don't mean anything because the opponent played poorly. The amount of pressure Scarlett was able to put on sOs was outstanding.

Paljas

Germany6926 Posts

February 07 2018 20:22 GMT

#503

sOs was jetlaged and had lag (WE WANT LAN), no wonder why he lost

deacon.frost

Czech Republic12131 Posts

February 07 2018 21:42 GMT

#504

On February 07 2018 20:45 Zaros wrote:

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Yes the Korean scene is declining in terms of number of players I dont think quality wise, I do think foreigners are getting better. Having 1 forein GSL ro16 doesn't really prove much we've had foreigners in later stages when there was no region lock. Honestly having 4 more tournaments a year where Koreans can participate I don't think its going to help their scene much it just means innovation etc earn some more money and travel a bit more the main problem that I see is a lack of interest in SC2 in Korea, lack of teams/houses and grassroots.

I don't see how letting top Koreans travel to WCS is going to help solve any of those problems.

I don't see how taking low-tier korean players money will help develop the Korean Scene. And that's exactly what the missing region lock in Korea is doing. The same arguments why implement region lock in WCS now can be safely used for Korea. If you limit travel expanses then only rich Korean can travel as there are no longer any big teams(except JAGW) who can afford sending Koreans left and right. Because if the Koreans fail(and they can fail) then they're at lost.

Obviously the easiest solution is to lock the Korea too

Cricketer12

United States14000 Posts

February 07 2018 22:00 GMT

#505

On February 08 2018 05:22 Paljas wrote:
sOs was jetlaged and had lag (WE WANT LAN), no wonder why he lost

He had jetlag on korea?

Zaros

United Kingdom3692 Posts

February 07 2018 23:10 GMT

#506

On February 08 2018 06:42 deacon.frost wrote:

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On February 07 2018 20:45 Zaros wrote:

On February 07 2018 19:54 deacon.frost wrote:

On February 07 2018 19:25 Zaros wrote:

On February 07 2018 19:00 deacon.frost wrote:
So is this the time the WCS stops being region locked or do we wait until Koreans will need the region lock?

Only two Koreans were allowed in this event let's be honest if Koreans were allowed in every Qualifier then you probably end up with soO innovation etc being in the tournament too and unlikely for Scarlett to qualify/win then.

Regardless congrats to Scarlett she played really well hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

How does this logic apply to the fact she advanced to the RO16 in GSL?

The good results of foreigners can be explained in 2 ways, either they became really good or Koreans are becoming worse. With the retreat of KeSPA from SC2 and most of the great teams no longer supporting players I doubt that foreigners are suddenly so godlike.

Yes, currently the fully unlocked WCS would be dominated by Koreans. But they wouldn't unlock it immediatelly and even if we start talking right now I doubt they would unlock it for the next year. ANd in 2 years we can have locked GSL for the same reasons WCS is locked now ;-)

Edit> I don't mean to lower Scarlett's success - she played really well(and she played well in the past too). But I don't think she played much better than before(e.g. her game vs. Bomber(I believe)).

Yes cause foreigners dominate Korean tournaments and Koreans barely get into the top 8 not.

argonautdice

Canada2720 Posts

February 08 2018 00:43 GMT

#507

On February 08 2018 07:00 Cricketer12 wrote:

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He had jetlag on korea?

Pretty sure he's joking

juicyjames

United States3815 Posts

February 08 2018 00:48 GMT

#508

Were there any recommended matches?

SetGuitarsToKill

Canada28396 Posts

February 08 2018 00:51 GMT

#509

On February 08 2018 09:48 juicyjames wrote:
Were there any recommended matches?

Filter by my name, I did polls for day 3

Actually on second thought maybe don't trust those because everyone was voting 5 stars because of scarlett

ZigguratOfUr

Iraq16955 Posts

February 08 2018 01:58 GMT

#510

Yeah don't trust the polls. For the finals from a pure gameplay standpoint game 4 was very good, games 1 and 2 were good but nothing exceptional, and games 3 and 5 were rather bad.