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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 09 2017 12:19 GMT
#61
Feels surreal to see MMA in a tournament.

What a time for sc2
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
November 09 2017 12:20 GMT
#62
First game on test map, my prediction that toss won't ever play macro again is true so far.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 09 2017 12:21 GMT
#63
okay that bugged production tab is really confusing
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 09 2017 12:24 GMT
#64
On November 09 2017 21:21 Musicus wrote:
okay that bugged production tab is really confusing

oh so he isn't going mass twilight council after all xD
Neosteel Enthusiast
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 09 2017 12:24 GMT
#65
Stalkers are a good unit?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 09 2017 12:25 GMT
#66
On November 09 2017 21:24 Ansibled wrote:
Stalkers are a good unit?

oh yes :D
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
November 09 2017 12:26 GMT
#67
When was shield battery added and mama removed? Patch notes don't seem to be on front page. Or am I blind?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 09 2017 12:26 GMT
#68
Yeah I didn't follow all the updates, is there a current patch note link somewhere?
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 12:28:07
November 09 2017 12:27 GMT
#69
On November 09 2017 21:26 Mozdk wrote:
When was shield battery added and mama removed? Patch notes don't seem to be on front page. Or am I blind?

The patch isn't live yet, the test map changes were on the front page months ago.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 12:31:54
November 09 2017 12:29 GMT
#70
Unfortunately I won't be able to watch most of the first two days, but I think it's very interesting to see the testmap in a competetive environment before the release, couldn't have a better way of testing!
Grollicus
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany287 Posts
November 09 2017 12:29 GMT
#71
Wohooo they play the new patch. GTFO Widowmine drops!

For the extra chaos factor.
Read. | Show me your Healthbars
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
November 09 2017 12:29 GMT
#72
On November 09 2017 21:27 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 21:26 Mozdk wrote:
When was shield battery added and mama removed? Patch notes don't seem to be on front page. Or am I blind?

The patch isn't live yet, the test map changes were on the front page months ago.


Why are HSC playing them then? That's a lot of money that could be won with something that might be completely broken.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
November 09 2017 12:29 GMT
#73
Thx korean army for ruining perfectly good progamers.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 12:30:57
November 09 2017 12:30 GMT
#74
On November 09 2017 21:29 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 21:27 Musicus wrote:
On November 09 2017 21:26 Mozdk wrote:
When was shield battery added and mama removed? Patch notes don't seem to be on front page. Or am I blind?

The patch isn't live yet, the test map changes were on the front page months ago.


Why are HSC playing them then? That's a lot of money that could be won with something that might be completely broken.

Because they want views, not balance.
Edit: Sorry for double post.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
November 09 2017 12:31 GMT
#75
On November 09 2017 21:29 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 21:27 Musicus wrote:
On November 09 2017 21:26 Mozdk wrote:
When was shield battery added and mama removed? Patch notes don't seem to be on front page. Or am I blind?

The patch isn't live yet, the test map changes were on the front page months ago.


Why are HSC playing them then? That's a lot of money that could be won with something that might be completely broken.


because the changes are pretty much settled now
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
November 09 2017 12:31 GMT
#76
Wow those stalkers are so strong, looks way too good
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
November 09 2017 12:31 GMT
#77
HSC already feels great
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 09 2017 12:32 GMT
#78
On November 09 2017 21:29 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 21:27 Musicus wrote:
On November 09 2017 21:26 Mozdk wrote:
When was shield battery added and mama removed? Patch notes don't seem to be on front page. Or am I blind?

The patch isn't live yet, the test map changes were on the front page months ago.


Why are HSC playing them then? That's a lot of money that could be won with something that might be completely broken.


Why wouldn't they? HSC is barely about a competitive SCII tournament. It's SCII entertainment, and seeing the design changes in action for the first time is certainly entertaining. Besides, they're going live in a week anyway. No reason not to play them now.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 12:33:21
November 09 2017 12:32 GMT
#79
Wait the test map changes are final?

I have no problem with this if the changes are confirmed to be final, I'd just blame Blizzard if it's going to be protoss OP. But if they're not confirmed changes, I can get how a few people could complain...
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 12:33:23
November 09 2017 12:32 GMT
#80
On November 09 2017 21:29 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2017 21:27 Musicus wrote:
On November 09 2017 21:26 Mozdk wrote:
When was shield battery added and mama removed? Patch notes don't seem to be on front page. Or am I blind?

The patch isn't live yet, the test map changes were on the front page months ago.


Why are HSC playing them then? That's a lot of money that could be won with something that might be completely broken.

It's just more interesting and the patch goes live next week without any chages until then most likely.

The real balance will only be achieved after some tournaments with money have been played on the new patch. Until then the players won't show off the brokes stuff.

Here are the patch notes, some stuff has changed though I think.

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20975163/

For exmaple infested Terrans don't spawn faster on creep now.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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