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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 29 2017 21:11 GMT
#1141
On October 30 2017 06:10 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 06:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 06:08 Fango wrote:
On October 30 2017 06:07 leublix wrote:
Why did Neeb even try to take a third base, overall just bad decision-making.


because 3rd base is free almost every game on this map


Rebuilding it over and over was a pretty poor decision though.


I don't think so. It was either keep remaking the 3rd and cancelling, or swarm hosts would be killing the main


Swarmhosts can't reach the main. Remaking the 3rd is throwing minerals away.
Avicularia
Profile Joined February 2012
540 Posts
October 29 2017 21:12 GMT
#1142
Can someone explain me why he didn't snipe the nydus and just camp with oracles on top of SH? I saw there a few queens but he should be able to kill them.
xenonn40
Profile Joined October 2011
United States282 Posts
October 29 2017 21:12 GMT
#1143
On October 30 2017 06:10 usopsama wrote:
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On October 30 2017 06:06 RaFox17 wrote:
So the big question. Was this worst smackdown than Life vs Lilbow?

It was close enough. I will be looping this match over and over in my sleep. It will provide me with the best beauty sleep possible.


It is people like you who make me not want to see Elazer or Seral do well, because all we get is EU >> NA everywhere.

Honestly, I still want to see Seral do well; the guy is a humble player.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
October 29 2017 21:12 GMT
#1144
On October 30 2017 06:09 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 06:07 Elentos wrote:
On October 30 2017 06:06 RaFox17 wrote:
So the big question. Was this worst smackdown than Life vs Lilbow?

Dark vs Neeb last year was already worse than Life vs Lilbow, this wasn't even bo5.


Life basically sent Lilbow into retirement with that series lol. Or more accurately, Lilbow put himself into retirement before that series even began

Lilbow played more professional LotV games than Life
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 29 2017 21:12 GMT
#1145
Korea #8 beat Circuit #1, and Circuit #8 beat Korea #1
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
October 29 2017 21:12 GMT
#1146
On October 30 2017 06:10 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 06:06 RaFox17 wrote:
So the big question. Was this worst smackdown than Life vs Lilbow?

It was close enough. I will be looping this match over and over in my sleep. It will provide me with the best beauty sleep humanly possible.

imo this was on par with naniwa-polt
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
October 29 2017 21:12 GMT
#1147
On October 30 2017 06:06 Ej_ wrote:
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On October 30 2017 06:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2017 06:05 leublix wrote:
On October 30 2017 05:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
2 base nydus swarm host

That's new

Rogue did that before I think. Some GSL series. Or it was Dark in SSL, not sure.

He did do a similar build a loooooooong time ago vs herO I think but I think it was on 3 base and hit a bit later

On the other hand, soO did this exact build vs Stats in super tournament ;D

That's the one. G4.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 29 2017 21:13 GMT
#1148
On October 30 2017 06:12 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 06:09 Bagration wrote:
On October 30 2017 06:07 Elentos wrote:
On October 30 2017 06:06 RaFox17 wrote:
So the big question. Was this worst smackdown than Life vs Lilbow?

Dark vs Neeb last year was already worse than Life vs Lilbow, this wasn't even bo5.


Life basically sent Lilbow into retirement with that series lol. Or more accurately, Lilbow put himself into retirement before that series even began

Lilbow played more professional LotV games than Life

Oh man, that is savage.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 29 2017 21:13 GMT
#1149
On October 30 2017 06:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 06:10 Fango wrote:
On October 30 2017 06:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 06:08 Fango wrote:
On October 30 2017 06:07 leublix wrote:
Why did Neeb even try to take a third base, overall just bad decision-making.


because 3rd base is free almost every game on this map


Rebuilding it over and over was a pretty poor decision though.


I don't think so. It was either keep remaking the 3rd and cancelling, or swarm hosts would be killing the main


Swarmhosts can't reach the main. Remaking the 3rd is throwing minerals away.


Lol yes they could. They had enough time to kill the nexus and fight Neeb's units after. If the 3rd wasn't there they would fly over and start killing the main
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Mouriner
Profile Joined March 2004
Brazil396 Posts
October 29 2017 21:13 GMT
#1150
At least no more 3 stargate oracle for a while! I hate to play against that shit
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
October 29 2017 21:13 GMT
#1151
On October 30 2017 06:12 Avicularia wrote:
Can someone explain me why he didn't snipe the nydus and just camp with oracles on top of SH? I saw there a few queens but he should be able to kill them.

Oracles can't hit air.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 29 2017 21:13 GMT
#1152
On October 30 2017 06:12 Fango wrote:
Korea #8 beat Circuit #1, and Circuit #8 beat Korea #1

WCS standings are a shit predictor of Blizzcon form, who knew
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
October 29 2017 21:13 GMT
#1153
On October 30 2017 06:12 Fango wrote:
Korea #8 beat Circuit #1, and Circuit #8 beat Korea #1

what does this say about the gap?
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 29 2017 21:13 GMT
#1154
On October 30 2017 06:13 Mouriner wrote:
At least no more 3 stargate oracle for a while! I hate to play against that shit


herO can still make something worse
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
October 29 2017 21:14 GMT
#1155
On October 30 2017 06:10 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 06:06 RaFox17 wrote:
So the big question. Was this worst smackdown than Life vs Lilbow?

It was close enough. I will be looping this match over and over in my sleep. It will provide me with the best beauty sleep humanly possible.

Nah, people seem to be forgetting how bad Life vs lilbow was. He literally died to early pools every game, even when he had a good build against it.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
October 29 2017 21:14 GMT
#1156
On October 30 2017 06:09 aQuaSC wrote:
Protoss cheeses - such stupid race...
Zerg cheeses out the entire series - such aggression!! sexy strat!!

Can you stop with the victim complex please? No one said shit when herO won.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 29 2017 21:14 GMT
#1157
On October 30 2017 06:13 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 06:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 06:10 Fango wrote:
On October 30 2017 06:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 06:08 Fango wrote:
On October 30 2017 06:07 leublix wrote:
Why did Neeb even try to take a third base, overall just bad decision-making.


because 3rd base is free almost every game on this map


Rebuilding it over and over was a pretty poor decision though.


I don't think so. It was either keep remaking the 3rd and cancelling, or swarm hosts would be killing the main


Swarmhosts can't reach the main. Remaking the 3rd is throwing minerals away.


Lol yes they could. They had enough time to kill the nexus and fight Neeb's units after. If the 3rd wasn't there they would fly over and start killing the main


Yeah right. You just bait the locusts down into the pocket with a single unit, and then they can't crawl all the way to the main.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
October 29 2017 21:14 GMT
#1158
On October 30 2017 06:07 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 06:07 leublix wrote:
Why did Neeb even try to take a third base, overall just bad decision-making.

tilt

Makro?


What else would you do though. If you stay on 2 base, your economy is even worse and you're just taking damage against free units. With the nydus, it's not like you can't catch them out of position with an allin, especially after a SG opener. I think maybe he could've made a ton of gates and harrassed with adepts whilst building up to archon drop but honestly this is a super hard build to face.

I really like that Rogue stayed so heavily on 2 base rather than spread himself thin across 3. That was a major hole I saw when soO did a similar thing against Stats recently in the ST. It ended up being okay for soO cos Stats had to waste all his oracle energy killing locusts, but had he gone across the map, it would've been a drone BBQ. Rogue's build looked a lot better in this regard, I was never worried that he would take signficant damage at any point.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Avicularia
Profile Joined February 2012
540 Posts
October 29 2017 21:14 GMT
#1159
On October 30 2017 06:13 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 06:12 Avicularia wrote:
Can someone explain me why he didn't snipe the nydus and just camp with oracles on top of SH? I saw there a few queens but he should be able to kill them.

Oracles can't hit air.

And since when SH fly?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 29 2017 21:15 GMT
#1160
Rogue vs Neeb was a beatdown, but Life vs Lilbow was a dumpster fire. Life literally slaughtered Lilbow with ladder strats, the most obvious cheese possible. At least Rogue had to use somewhat sophisticated builds.
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