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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On September 07 2017 00:26 seopthi wrote: Any recommended games? You have a bo7 PvP match which is less than 50 mins in total excluding commercials, so it won't take a lot of your spare time anyway if you watch them all. And this thread reaches 10 page finally, what an accomplishment. | ||
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LTCM
174 Posts
On September 06 2017 23:54 The_Red_Viper wrote: I am no sOs fan, not at all. I still think these "anti sOs" comments are unreasonable tbh, every time this guy gets far in GSL people still imply he is bad. Sure you might get lucky here and there but sOs does it again and again. Wouldn't even be surprised if he wins the finals now even though i think Inno and Dark are favored. But Stats should have been as well. I mean the guy has been to two GSL finals and an additional round of 4 in LOTV...in what, six GSLs total? But hey, he's lucky, so he makes 50% of GSL semi-finals right? Lolz. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
I still wouldn't favor him over Inno or Dark but i also wouldn't be hugely surprised if he actually wins the tournament at this point. Pains me to say because i loved the "sOs will never win a starleague" meme but here we are again. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15911 Posts
But sOs surely knows how to win, that's undeniable. | ||
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seopthi
391 Posts
On September 07 2017 01:05 Alarak89 wrote: You have a bo7 PvP match which is less than 50 mins in total excluding commercials, so it won't take a lot of your spare time anyway if you watch them all. And this thread reaches 10 page finally, what an accomplishment. You are right, ended up watching the whole series and enjoyed it thoroughly, | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 07 2017 01:24 LTCM wrote: I mean the guy has been to two GSL finals and an additional round of 4 in LOTV...in what, six GSLs total? But hey, he's lucky, so he makes 50% of GSL semi-finals right? Lolz. He's been in 2/5 GSL finals in LoTV, and has more top 4 finshes than anyone else. Definitely not bad for someone who was collectively disregarded as a strong contender by people on here :D | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On September 07 2017 01:24 LTCM wrote: I mean the guy has been to two GSL finals and an additional round of 4 in LOTV...in what, six GSLs total? But hey, he's lucky, so he makes 50% of GSL semi-finals right? Lolz. He isn't lucky, but he is an awful gsl finalist macro/micro wise. He is the proof that builds can bring you to gsl finals, even with bad mechanics if you compare with others gsl players. He wins without being impressive, every time, like an inverted(?) TY. Special mention to his reaction time ... | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On September 07 2017 03:10 DieuCure wrote: He isn't lucky, but he is an awful gsl finalist macro/micro wise. He is the proof that builds can bring you to gsl finals, even with bad mechanics if you compare with others gsl players. He wins without being impressive, every time, like an inverted(?) TY. Special mention to his reaction time ... Well, I do not think that his victories have anything to do with "builds". It has a lot to do with stellar decision making under pressure, willingness to take risk and changing strategies on the go. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On September 07 2017 03:10 DieuCure wrote: He isn't lucky, but he is an awful gsl finalist macro/micro wise. He is the proof that builds can bring you to gsl finals, even with bad mechanics if you compare with others gsl players. He wins without being impressive, every time, like an inverted(?) TY. Special mention to his reaction time ... There are different qualities in a player, sOs quality is strategy. I think that's always really impressive, but sometimes you have to play the builds yourself to understand just why it's so great. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
after the first game, sos decided the fate of every singe game. stats was completely reactionary while $o$ tried cheesy but really effective strategies, stats basically tried to hold his ground and lost convincingly 4 games in a row i really don't care which protoss plays against our glorious machine overlord but sos earned this ezpz | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On September 07 2017 04:44 The_Red_Viper wrote: I don't like his playstyle, but results are results and you have to respect his. That's really all there is to it. Pretty much this. Most of the time I'm low-key disgusted by sOs. Sometimes he pulls off some crazy awesome shit. When he dumpsters players I dislike, I find it hilarious. But he has some serious guts. And balls of steel. Props for that. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On September 07 2017 04:25 Diabolique wrote: Well, I do not think that his victories have anything to do with "builds". It has a lot to do with stellar decision making under pressure, willingness to take risk and changing strategies on the go. Yes sure I agree, he isn't a random top 100 gm spamming random builds, but I think you got the idea, he is not a conventional top Starcraft player, so it's a little weird when you watch him win the best players mechanically wise without being great himself ( about mechanics ). A little unfair to me because only protoss players can do that, and then they say "nono" when people says it's the least mechanics demanding race, into -150 reddit s karma points. But i prefer him to players like Myungsik and herO because you know.. | ||
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Sakat
Croatia1599 Posts
On September 07 2017 05:46 DieuCure wrote: But i prefer him to players like Myungsik and herO because you know.. He actually puts thought into his builds | ||
Poopi
France12770 Posts
On September 07 2017 03:07 Fango wrote: He's been in 2/5 GSL finals in LoTV, and has more top 4 finshes than anyone else. Definitely not bad for someone who was collectively disregarded as a strong contender by people on here :D To be honest the problem with sOs is that he often looks like shit, or disappoints against foreigners (see nation wars), he manages to go far in GSL with relatively lucky brackets but doesn't really deliver... It's kinda annoying because he just never beats people when you expect him to. | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On September 07 2017 07:21 Poopi wrote: To be honest the problem with sOs is that he often looks like shit, or disappoints against foreigners (see nation wars), he manages to go far in GSL with relatively lucky brackets but doesn't really deliver... It's kinda annoying because he just never beats people when you expect him to. But should we trust his offline winrates, champion titles and other result wise data, or should we trust these "looks like shit", "disappoints against foreigners", "relatively lucky brackets but doesn't really deliver" things over five years? If "he just never beats people when you expect him to", then maybe you can explain why he has such a high offline winrates career wise or all the wins are illusion? Anyway, did you expect him to win anyone or be a champion at any given time? | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
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swissman777
1106 Posts
On September 07 2017 09:59 Alarak89 wrote: "The most appearances in premier leagues among existing Protoss players", can someone translate what "premier leagues" means here? I'm assuming "premier leagues" only mean GSL Code S? Or including GSL qualifiers as well? The Korean sentence read that sOs has most premier league finals appearance among the active protoss players | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On September 07 2017 10:22 swissman777 wrote: The Korean sentence read that sOs has most premier league finals appearance among the active protoss players Thank you, that make much more sense. So it includes foreign premier tournament finals as well, right? 9 premier finals and already won 5 of them, that surly is another amazing record. "Efficiency" rolls all over everywhere I guess. | ||
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