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Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
September 06 2017 16:05 GMT
#181
On September 07 2017 00:26 seopthi wrote:
Any recommended games?

You have a bo7 PvP match which is less than 50 mins in total excluding commercials, so it won't take a lot of your spare time anyway if you watch them all. And this thread reaches 10 page finally, what an accomplishment.
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
LTCM
Profile Joined May 2017
174 Posts
September 06 2017 16:24 GMT
#182
On September 06 2017 23:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I am no sOs fan, not at all. I still think these "anti sOs" comments are unreasonable tbh, every time this guy gets far in GSL people still imply he is bad. Sure you might get lucky here and there but sOs does it again and again.
Wouldn't even be surprised if he wins the finals now even though i think Inno and Dark are favored. But Stats should have been as well.



I mean the guy has been to two GSL finals and an additional round of 4 in LOTV...in what, six GSLs total? But hey, he's lucky, so he makes 50% of GSL semi-finals right? Lolz.
Byun is a convicted match-fixer.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 06 2017 16:26 GMT
#183
Yeah i think it is unreasonable to have this pov. At the end of the day all that matters is the ability to win games, sOs wins his games in GSL and thus deserves to be in the GSL finals. It's as simple as that.
I still wouldn't favor him over Inno or Dark but i also wouldn't be hugely surprised if he actually wins the tournament at this point. Pains me to say because i loved the "sOs will never win a starleague" meme but here we are again.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16006 Posts
September 06 2017 17:17 GMT
#184
Last time sOs got to the finals he had to play herO and Myungsik in the playoffs and got trashed in the finals by Byun so I can kinda see why people aren't terribly impressed by that.
But sOs surely knows how to win, that's undeniable.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
392 Posts
September 06 2017 17:37 GMT
#185
On September 07 2017 01:05 Alarak89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2017 00:26 seopthi wrote:
Any recommended games?

You have a bo7 PvP match which is less than 50 mins in total excluding commercials, so it won't take a lot of your spare time anyway if you watch them all. And this thread reaches 10 page finally, what an accomplishment.


You are right, ended up watching the whole series and enjoyed it thoroughly,
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 06 2017 18:07 GMT
#186
On September 07 2017 01:24 LTCM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2017 23:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I am no sOs fan, not at all. I still think these "anti sOs" comments are unreasonable tbh, every time this guy gets far in GSL people still imply he is bad. Sure you might get lucky here and there but sOs does it again and again.
Wouldn't even be surprised if he wins the finals now even though i think Inno and Dark are favored. But Stats should have been as well.



I mean the guy has been to two GSL finals and an additional round of 4 in LOTV...in what, six GSLs total? But hey, he's lucky, so he makes 50% of GSL semi-finals right? Lolz.


He's been in 2/5 GSL finals in LoTV, and has more top 4 finshes than anyone else. Definitely not bad for someone who was collectively disregarded as a strong contender by people on here :D
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-06 18:13:27
September 06 2017 18:10 GMT
#187
On September 07 2017 01:24 LTCM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2017 23:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I am no sOs fan, not at all. I still think these "anti sOs" comments are unreasonable tbh, every time this guy gets far in GSL people still imply he is bad. Sure you might get lucky here and there but sOs does it again and again.
Wouldn't even be surprised if he wins the finals now even though i think Inno and Dark are favored. But Stats should have been as well.



I mean the guy has been to two GSL finals and an additional round of 4 in LOTV...in what, six GSLs total? But hey, he's lucky, so he makes 50% of GSL semi-finals right? Lolz.



He isn't lucky, but he is an awful gsl finalist macro/micro wise.

He is the proof that builds can bring you to gsl finals, even with bad mechanics if you compare with others gsl players. He wins without being impressive, every time, like an inverted(?) TY.

Special mention to his reaction time ...
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 06 2017 18:23 GMT
#188
sOs!
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 06 2017 19:25 GMT
#189
On September 07 2017 03:10 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2017 01:24 LTCM wrote:
On September 06 2017 23:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I am no sOs fan, not at all. I still think these "anti sOs" comments are unreasonable tbh, every time this guy gets far in GSL people still imply he is bad. Sure you might get lucky here and there but sOs does it again and again.
Wouldn't even be surprised if he wins the finals now even though i think Inno and Dark are favored. But Stats should have been as well.



I mean the guy has been to two GSL finals and an additional round of 4 in LOTV...in what, six GSLs total? But hey, he's lucky, so he makes 50% of GSL semi-finals right? Lolz.



He isn't lucky, but he is an awful gsl finalist macro/micro wise.

He is the proof that builds can bring you to gsl finals, even with bad mechanics if you compare with others gsl players. He wins without being impressive, every time, like an inverted(?) TY.

Special mention to his reaction time ...

Well, I do not think that his victories have anything to do with "builds". It has a lot to do with stellar decision making under pressure, willingness to take risk and changing strategies on the go.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
September 06 2017 19:40 GMT
#190
On September 07 2017 03:10 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2017 01:24 LTCM wrote:
On September 06 2017 23:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I am no sOs fan, not at all. I still think these "anti sOs" comments are unreasonable tbh, every time this guy gets far in GSL people still imply he is bad. Sure you might get lucky here and there but sOs does it again and again.
Wouldn't even be surprised if he wins the finals now even though i think Inno and Dark are favored. But Stats should have been as well.



I mean the guy has been to two GSL finals and an additional round of 4 in LOTV...in what, six GSLs total? But hey, he's lucky, so he makes 50% of GSL semi-finals right? Lolz.



He isn't lucky, but he is an awful gsl finalist macro/micro wise.

He is the proof that builds can bring you to gsl finals, even with bad mechanics if you compare with others gsl players. He wins without being impressive, every time, like an inverted(?) TY.

Special mention to his reaction time ...


There are different qualities in a player, sOs quality is strategy. I think that's always really impressive, but sometimes you have to play the builds yourself to understand just why it's so great.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 06 2017 19:44 GMT
#191
I don't like his playstyle, but results are results and you have to respect his. That's really all there is to it.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-06 20:17:25
September 06 2017 20:16 GMT
#192
i read the "tastosis was too biased towards sos" comments before watching the semi finals

after the first game, sos decided the fate of every singe game. stats was completely reactionary while $o$ tried cheesy but really effective strategies, stats basically tried to hold his ground and lost convincingly 4 games in a row

i really don't care which protoss plays against our glorious machine overlord but sos earned this ezpz
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
September 06 2017 20:17 GMT
#193
On September 07 2017 04:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I don't like his playstyle, but results are results and you have to respect his. That's really all there is to it.

Pretty much this. Most of the time I'm low-key disgusted by sOs. Sometimes he pulls off some crazy awesome shit. When he dumpsters players I dislike, I find it hilarious.

But he has some serious guts. And balls of steel. Props for that.
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 06 2017 20:46 GMT
#194
On September 07 2017 04:25 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2017 03:10 DieuCure wrote:
On September 07 2017 01:24 LTCM wrote:
On September 06 2017 23:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I am no sOs fan, not at all. I still think these "anti sOs" comments are unreasonable tbh, every time this guy gets far in GSL people still imply he is bad. Sure you might get lucky here and there but sOs does it again and again.
Wouldn't even be surprised if he wins the finals now even though i think Inno and Dark are favored. But Stats should have been as well.



I mean the guy has been to two GSL finals and an additional round of 4 in LOTV...in what, six GSLs total? But hey, he's lucky, so he makes 50% of GSL semi-finals right? Lolz.



He isn't lucky, but he is an awful gsl finalist macro/micro wise.

He is the proof that builds can bring you to gsl finals, even with bad mechanics if you compare with others gsl players. He wins without being impressive, every time, like an inverted(?) TY.

Special mention to his reaction time ...

Well, I do not think that his victories have anything to do with "builds". It has a lot to do with stellar decision making under pressure, willingness to take risk and changing strategies on the go.


Yes sure I agree, he isn't a random top 100 gm spamming random builds, but I think you got the idea, he is not a conventional top Starcraft player, so it's a little weird when you watch him win the best players mechanically wise without being great himself ( about mechanics ).

A little unfair to me because only protoss players can do that, and then they say "nono" when people says it's the least mechanics demanding race, into -150 reddit s karma points.

But i prefer him to players like Myungsik and herO because you know..



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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
September 06 2017 20:50 GMT
#195
On September 07 2017 05:46 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2017 04:25 Diabolique wrote:
On September 07 2017 03:10 DieuCure wrote:
On September 07 2017 01:24 LTCM wrote:
On September 06 2017 23:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I am no sOs fan, not at all. I still think these "anti sOs" comments are unreasonable tbh, every time this guy gets far in GSL people still imply he is bad. Sure you might get lucky here and there but sOs does it again and again.
Wouldn't even be surprised if he wins the finals now even though i think Inno and Dark are favored. But Stats should have been as well.



I mean the guy has been to two GSL finals and an additional round of 4 in LOTV...in what, six GSLs total? But hey, he's lucky, so he makes 50% of GSL semi-finals right? Lolz.



He isn't lucky, but he is an awful gsl finalist macro/micro wise.

He is the proof that builds can bring you to gsl finals, even with bad mechanics if you compare with others gsl players. He wins without being impressive, every time, like an inverted(?) TY.

Special mention to his reaction time ...

Well, I do not think that his victories have anything to do with "builds". It has a lot to do with stellar decision making under pressure, willingness to take risk and changing strategies on the go.

But i prefer him to players like Myungsik and herO because you know..




He actually puts thought into his builds
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
September 06 2017 22:21 GMT
#196
On September 07 2017 03:07 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2017 01:24 LTCM wrote:
On September 06 2017 23:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I am no sOs fan, not at all. I still think these "anti sOs" comments are unreasonable tbh, every time this guy gets far in GSL people still imply he is bad. Sure you might get lucky here and there but sOs does it again and again.
Wouldn't even be surprised if he wins the finals now even though i think Inno and Dark are favored. But Stats should have been as well.



I mean the guy has been to two GSL finals and an additional round of 4 in LOTV...in what, six GSLs total? But hey, he's lucky, so he makes 50% of GSL semi-finals right? Lolz.


He's been in 2/5 GSL finals in LoTV, and has more top 4 finshes than anyone else. Definitely not bad for someone who was collectively disregarded as a strong contender by people on here :D

To be honest the problem with sOs is that he often looks like shit, or disappoints against foreigners (see nation wars), he manages to go far in GSL with relatively lucky brackets but doesn't really deliver...
It's kinda annoying because he just never beats people when you expect him to.
WriterMaru
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-06 23:13:10
September 06 2017 22:54 GMT
#197
On September 07 2017 07:21 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2017 03:07 Fango wrote:
On September 07 2017 01:24 LTCM wrote:
On September 06 2017 23:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I am no sOs fan, not at all. I still think these "anti sOs" comments are unreasonable tbh, every time this guy gets far in GSL people still imply he is bad. Sure you might get lucky here and there but sOs does it again and again.
Wouldn't even be surprised if he wins the finals now even though i think Inno and Dark are favored. But Stats should have been as well.



I mean the guy has been to two GSL finals and an additional round of 4 in LOTV...in what, six GSLs total? But hey, he's lucky, so he makes 50% of GSL semi-finals right? Lolz.


He's been in 2/5 GSL finals in LoTV, and has more top 4 finshes than anyone else. Definitely not bad for someone who was collectively disregarded as a strong contender by people on here :D

To be honest the problem with sOs is that he often looks like shit, or disappoints against foreigners (see nation wars), he manages to go far in GSL with relatively lucky brackets but doesn't really deliver...
It's kinda annoying because he just never beats people when you expect him to.

But should we trust his offline winrates, champion titles and other result wise data, or should we trust these "looks like shit", "disappoints against foreigners", "relatively lucky brackets but doesn't really deliver" things over five years?
If "he just never beats people when you expect him to", then maybe you can explain why he has such a high offline winrates career wise or all the wins are illusion? Anyway, did you expect him to win anyone or be a champion at any given time?
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-07 00:59:41
September 07 2017 00:59 GMT
#198
"The most appearances in premier leagues among existing Protoss players", can someone translate what "premier leagues" means here? I'm assuming "premier leagues" only mean GSL Code S? Or including GSL qualifiers as well?
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
September 07 2017 01:22 GMT
#199
On September 07 2017 09:59 Alarak89 wrote:
"The most appearances in premier leagues among existing Protoss players", can someone translate what "premier leagues" means here? I'm assuming "premier leagues" only mean GSL Code S? Or including GSL qualifiers as well?

The Korean sentence read that sOs has most premier league finals appearance among the active protoss players
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-07 01:37:52
September 07 2017 01:30 GMT
#200
On September 07 2017 10:22 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2017 09:59 Alarak89 wrote:
"The most appearances in premier leagues among existing Protoss players", can someone translate what "premier leagues" means here? I'm assuming "premier leagues" only mean GSL Code S? Or including GSL qualifiers as well?

The Korean sentence read that sOs has most premier league finals appearance among the active protoss players

Thank you, that make much more sense. So it includes foreign premier tournament finals as well, right?
9 premier finals and already won 5 of them, that surly is another amazing record. "Efficiency" rolls all over everywhere I guess.
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