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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
July 27 2017 06:04 GMT
#301
On July 27 2017 15:03 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2017 15:01 Elentos wrote:
On July 27 2017 14:57 RaFox17 wrote:
Rogue is such a sexy boi!!! THat felt good for a zerg

Should it though? The first game was so one-sided you have to assume Stats would have completely destroyed him if he'd scouted any of that. Not even a moral victory in there.

is winning with a mothership a moral victory either though

I would assume pressing the storm button and making entire armies disappear is a moral victory, but I would need a Protoss to confirm.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 27 2017 06:04 GMT
#302
On July 27 2017 15:03 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2017 15:01 Elentos wrote:
On July 27 2017 14:57 RaFox17 wrote:
Rogue is such a sexy boi!!! THat felt good for a zerg

Should it though? The first game was so one-sided you have to assume Stats would have completely destroyed him if he'd scouted any of that. Not even a moral victory in there.

is winning with a mothership a moral victory either though


Maybe that's why he donated it to that Hydra drop once.
Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
July 27 2017 06:07 GMT
#303
china to strong for GSL champ :s
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-27 06:08:55
July 27 2017 06:07 GMT
#304
So why isn't this played on the ladder map pool? Because the qualifiers weren't? I mean come on, it's been over a week since the pool was changed and nobody likes Blood Boil and Defender's Landing anyway. Except mass reaper players, whose feelings can be neglected.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
July 27 2017 06:09 GMT
#305
On July 27 2017 15:07 Elentos wrote:
So why isn't this played on the ladder map pool? Because the qualifiers weren't? I mean come on, it's been over a week since the pool was changed and nobody likes Blood Boil and Defender's Landing anyway.

no one likes mech depot and acoltye and catallena either way
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 27 2017 06:10 GMT
#306
On July 27 2017 15:07 Elentos wrote:
So why isn't this played on the ladder map pool? Because the qualifiers weren't? I mean come on, it's been over a week since the pool was changed and nobody likes Blood Boil and Defender's Landing anyway. Except mass reaper players, whose feelings can be neglected.


It isn't? I hadn't noticed since we're playing on Odyssey, Ascension, Abyssal every series... Though there was that one game on Proxima, so you must be right.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
July 27 2017 06:10 GMT
#307
On July 27 2017 15:09 Major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2017 15:07 Elentos wrote:
So why isn't this played on the ladder map pool? Because the qualifiers weren't? I mean come on, it's been over a week since the pool was changed and nobody likes Blood Boil and Defender's Landing anyway.

no one likes mech depot and acoltye and catallena either way

While that's true, at least you can queue up ladder to play on those.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
July 27 2017 06:10 GMT
#308
On July 27 2017 15:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2017 15:07 Elentos wrote:
So why isn't this played on the ladder map pool? Because the qualifiers weren't? I mean come on, it's been over a week since the pool was changed and nobody likes Blood Boil and Defender's Landing anyway. Except mass reaper players, whose feelings can be neglected.


It isn't? I hadn't noticed since we're playing on Odyssey, Ascension, Abyssal every series... Though there was that one game on Proxima, so you must be right.

You'll notice when game 7 in the finals is played on Defender's Landing
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 27 2017 06:12 GMT
#309
On July 27 2017 15:10 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2017 15:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:07 Elentos wrote:
So why isn't this played on the ladder map pool? Because the qualifiers weren't? I mean come on, it's been over a week since the pool was changed and nobody likes Blood Boil and Defender's Landing anyway. Except mass reaper players, whose feelings can be neglected.


It isn't? I hadn't noticed since we're playing on Odyssey, Ascension, Abyssal every series... Though there was that one game on Proxima, so you must be right.

You'll notice when game 7 in the finals is played on Defender's Landing

Please god no.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
July 27 2017 06:13 GMT
#310
In this break: Architecture. Tourism. Chinese things.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-27 06:14:31
July 27 2017 06:13 GMT
#311
On July 27 2017 15:09 Major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2017 15:07 Elentos wrote:
So why isn't this played on the ladder map pool? Because the qualifiers weren't? I mean come on, it's been over a week since the pool was changed and nobody likes Blood Boil and Defender's Landing anyway.

no one likes mech depot and acoltye and catallena either way


Really? Why people hate Catallena is obvious, but I'm surprised Mech Depot is so disliked.

On July 27 2017 15:13 Elentos wrote:
In this break: Architecture. Tourism. Chinese things.


There's Twitch ads supposedly, but I don't know anyone without adblock to ask.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 27 2017 06:14 GMT
#312
On July 27 2017 15:13 Elentos wrote:
In this break: Architecture. Tourism. Chinese things.

Also traffic jams. Which are very Chinese.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-27 06:15:45
July 27 2017 06:14 GMT
#313
On July 27 2017 15:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2017 15:09 Major wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:07 Elentos wrote:
So why isn't this played on the ladder map pool? Because the qualifiers weren't? I mean come on, it's been over a week since the pool was changed and nobody likes Blood Boil and Defender's Landing anyway.

no one likes mech depot and acoltye and catallena either way


Really? Why people hate Catallena is obvious, but I'm surprised Mech Depot is so disliked.

You can't reaper scout without sacrificing it.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 27 2017 06:16 GMT
#314
On July 27 2017 15:14 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2017 15:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:09 Major wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:07 Elentos wrote:
So why isn't this played on the ladder map pool? Because the qualifiers weren't? I mean come on, it's been over a week since the pool was changed and nobody likes Blood Boil and Defender's Landing anyway.

no one likes mech depot and acoltye and catallena either way


Really? Why people hate Catallena is obvious, but I'm surprised Mech Depot is so disliked.

You can't reaper scout without sacrificing it.


Same thing for Ascension.
Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
July 27 2017 06:17 GMT
#315
On July 27 2017 15:14 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2017 15:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:09 Major wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:07 Elentos wrote:
So why isn't this played on the ladder map pool? Because the qualifiers weren't? I mean come on, it's been over a week since the pool was changed and nobody likes Blood Boil and Defender's Landing anyway.

no one likes mech depot and acoltye and catallena either way


Really? Why people hate Catallena is obvious, but I'm surprised Mech Depot is so disliked.

You can't reaper scout without sacrificing it.

u cant scout. attacking 4th vs zerg is almost impossible cause they just run by its a mix of aiur and oddysey on 1 map for some reason map mapers think all maps should be huge. yet best map so far in recent years is abyssal and its not a huge map. alas
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 27 2017 06:18 GMT
#316
On July 27 2017 15:17 Major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2017 15:14 Elentos wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:09 Major wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:07 Elentos wrote:
So why isn't this played on the ladder map pool? Because the qualifiers weren't? I mean come on, it's been over a week since the pool was changed and nobody likes Blood Boil and Defender's Landing anyway.

no one likes mech depot and acoltye and catallena either way


Really? Why people hate Catallena is obvious, but I'm surprised Mech Depot is so disliked.

You can't reaper scout without sacrificing it.

u cant scout. attacking 4th vs zerg is almost impossible cause they just run by its a mix of aiur and oddysey on 1 map for some reason map mapers think all maps should be huge. yet best map so far in recent years is abyssal and its not a huge map. alas


The map contests are built in a way that only huge beachy macro maps can win unfortunately.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-27 06:19:40
July 27 2017 06:19 GMT
#317
On July 27 2017 15:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2017 15:17 Major wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:14 Elentos wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:09 Major wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:07 Elentos wrote:
So why isn't this played on the ladder map pool? Because the qualifiers weren't? I mean come on, it's been over a week since the pool was changed and nobody likes Blood Boil and Defender's Landing anyway.

no one likes mech depot and acoltye and catallena either way


Really? Why people hate Catallena is obvious, but I'm surprised Mech Depot is so disliked.

You can't reaper scout without sacrificing it.

u cant scout. attacking 4th vs zerg is almost impossible cause they just run by its a mix of aiur and oddysey on 1 map for some reason map mapers think all maps should be huge. yet best map so far in recent years is abyssal and its not a huge map. alas


The map contests are built in a way that only huge beachy macro maps can win unfortunately.

It's borderline all that can participate.

We're still getting off easy, remember when the requirement was in-base natural?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
July 27 2017 06:20 GMT
#318
so with all of those old maps coming back


Alterzim when?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 27 2017 06:20 GMT
#319
On July 27 2017 15:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2017 15:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:17 Major wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:14 Elentos wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:09 Major wrote:
On July 27 2017 15:07 Elentos wrote:
So why isn't this played on the ladder map pool? Because the qualifiers weren't? I mean come on, it's been over a week since the pool was changed and nobody likes Blood Boil and Defender's Landing anyway.

no one likes mech depot and acoltye and catallena either way


Really? Why people hate Catallena is obvious, but I'm surprised Mech Depot is so disliked.

You can't reaper scout without sacrificing it.

u cant scout. attacking 4th vs zerg is almost impossible cause they just run by its a mix of aiur and oddysey on 1 map for some reason map mapers think all maps should be huge. yet best map so far in recent years is abyssal and its not a huge map. alas


The map contests are built in a way that only huge beachy macro maps can win unfortunately.

It's borderline all that can participate.

We're still getting off easy, remember when the requirement was in-base natural?


It wasn't for long. They removed that requirement half-way through the week they gave mapmakers to prepare their maps.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 27 2017 06:21 GMT
#320
Well, at least Afreeca and SPOTV are smart enough to use their own map pools.
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