[IEM XII] Shanghai 2017 - Group Stage Day 1 - Page 13

On July 27 2017 14:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
iA took out Gumi? What? Who in China rigged that shit lol

On July 27 2017 14:13 Lexender wrote:
Man Gumi being so inconsistent is such a shame, he is the most interesting terran to watch because plays outside the box while every other terran and their mother's just do the same stuff.

On July 27 2017 14:14 pvsnp wrote:

Sometimes playing outside the box wins you GSL, and sometimes it gets you knocked out in the Ro16. Standard is standard because it's the best build that the professional consensus can come up with.

On July 27 2017 14:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:


In theory standard is the best, but practice isn't so clean. For example TY's mech TvZ builds on New Gettysburg were the best strategy, but weren't the standard.

On July 27 2017 14:21 pvsnp wrote:

Standard is not always best ofc, but I'm inclined to think that it usually is. Creativity has its place (winning one finals for example), but the whole point of standard is that the meta adapts and incorporates good creative builds over time.

On July 27 2017 14:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:


True.

Though tbh Gumiho has always struck me as a player who would be inconsistent even if he played standard.

On July 27 2017 14:27 pvsnp wrote:

Gumiho is just plain bad if he plays standard. He doesn't have the kind of Korean Terran mechanics that make players, well Korean Terrans. So him playing weird and creative is the right choice for him, but I'm saying it is not the right one for most other players.

On July 27 2017 14:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:


Isn't the fact that most players should play standard a tautology?