EPTOn July 20 2017 02:17 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?
Any recommended matches?
both Trap vs Dark series. The rest is very dispensable : Trap vs herO was a pretty dull PvP and NoRegreT got outclassed left and right.
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both Trap vs Dark series. The rest is very dispensable : Trap vs herO was a pretty dull PvP and NoRegreT got outclassed left and right. | ||
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Vutalisk
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Oh well, all expected players move on. Feel bad for Trap. He is a good player. | ||
Poopi
France12911 Posts
On July 20 2017 02:54 Vutalisk wrote: Jake seems like such a nice guy and hate to say bad things about him but Jesus his games were horrendous... Poor macro, supply block, fly a flock of overlords to opponent's side so they can kill them even faster. He stood no chance vs Koreans but I was hoping for a better showing. Well, this only makes Impact looks worse. How he can lose to this twice is beyond me. Oh well, all expected players move on. Feel bad for Trap. He is a good player. When you compete in such a tournament for the first time, you'll probably perform far worse than your actual abilities. That's why most foreign pros will need to participate in others GSL before we can accurately rate them against KR players (for example it took a lot of time for Mvp to become the GOAT, Bomber was a ladder hero but qualified to code S very very late, ByuN showed potential but it took him a lot of time, etc...) We should encourage foreign pros to participate again and not try to shame them of their performance / praise KR too much imo (not everybody does it but there is clearly a double standard sometimes) | ||
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On July 20 2017 05:57 Poopi wrote: When you compete in such a tournament for the first time, you'll probably perform far worse than your actual abilities. That's why most foreign pros will need to participate in others GSL before we can accurately rate them against KR players (for example it took a lot of time for Mvp to become the GOAT, Bomber was a ladder hero but qualified to code S very very late, ByuN showed potential but it took him a lot of time, etc...) We should encourage foreign pros to participate again and not try to shame them of their performance / praise KR too much imo (not everybody does it but there is clearly a double standard sometimes) wholeheartedly agree | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On July 20 2017 05:57 Poopi wrote: When you compete in such a tournament for the first time, you'll probably perform far worse than your actual abilities. That's why most foreign pros will need to participate in others GSL before we can accurately rate them against KR players (for example it took a lot of time for Mvp to become the GOAT, Bomber was a ladder hero but qualified to code S very very late, ByuN showed potential but it took him a lot of time, etc...) We should encourage foreign pros to participate again and not try to shame them of their performance / praise KR too much imo (not everybody does it but there is clearly a double standard sometimes) I mean, Mvp's Jan 2011 run was an utter destruction of everyone in Code S. But Nestea, IIRC. | ||
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Poopi
France12911 Posts
On July 20 2017 20:08 lolfail9001 wrote: I mean, Mvp's Jan 2011 run was an utter destruction of everyone in Code S. But Nestea, IIRC. I am talking about Open Seasons: FruitDealer, NesTea, MC. Iirc Mvp under performed in these events compared to what he was meant to become. In the first three seasons respectively the mvp terran (haha) was Rainbow, then MarineKing and Rain, not mvp | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
On July 20 2017 05:57 Poopi wrote: When you compete in such a tournament for the first time, you'll probably perform far worse than your actual abilities. That's why most foreign pros will need to participate in others GSL before we can accurately rate them against KR players (for example it took a lot of time for Mvp to become the GOAT, Bomber was a ladder hero but qualified to code S very very late, ByuN showed potential but it took him a lot of time, etc...) We should encourage foreign pros to participate again and not try to shame them of their performance / praise KR too much imo (not everybody does it but there is clearly a double standard sometimes) I agree with you and all. But be real here, NoRgret's style is why I never root for him while I very much enjoy Elazer, Scarlett, TIME and Major's performances at GSL. They played solid games with great macro/micro skills and mixed some cheese here and there. They (minus Major) didn't get out but they showed the skills which are on pair with Koreans. Just need to polish a bit better. Cheesy play can get you so far until the point it makes you like you didn't know how to play the game properly. What to improve in cheesy games? Cheese better? Be more cheesy? I'm sorry but no thank you. | ||
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Poopi
France12911 Posts
On July 21 2017 02:04 Vutalisk wrote: I agree with you and all. But be real here, NoRgret's style is why I never root for him while I very much enjoy Elazer, Scarlett, TIME and Major's performances at GSL. They played solid games with great macro/micro skills and mixed some cheese here and there. They (minus Major) didn't get out but they showed the skills which are on pair with Koreans. Just need to polish a bit better. Cheesy play can get you so far until the point it makes you like you didn't know how to play the game properly. What to improve in cheesy games? Cheese better? Be more cheesy? I'm sorry but no thank you. There is a difference between rooting for someone, and promoting a toxic mindset. If the guy that posted is genuine about being a fan of NoRegret, he should be careful with what he says publicly / try to create a virtuous circle of kindness instead of a vicious / toxic one imho. About NoRegret style being legitimate to cheer for, that's not the point so I don't know what to say about it? | ||
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