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DieuCure
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soO because ... poor soO And maru because byun vs soO and maru vs rogue should be fun | ||
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Fango
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gumi/ty byun/maru classic/stats rogue/soO Although I believe it would end up with soO losing to TY or Maru in finals haha | ||
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DieuCure
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Dark 4-3 Maru 3-4 Losira 0-4 | ||
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soO 2 - 1 Losira Maru 2 - 1 Dark soO 1 - 2 Maru Losira 1 - 2 Dark soO 2 - 1 Dark Maru & soO advance! | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On June 03 2017 09:46 rapidtransit247 wrote: Aligulac predictions soO 2 - 1 Losira Maru 2 - 1 Dark soO 1 - 2 Maru Losira 1 - 2 Dark soO 2 - 1 Dark Maru & soO advance! I am ok with that | ||
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Boggyb
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On June 03 2017 12:50 lolfail9001 wrote: So, our hopes lie with Maru following the 1v3 rule and topping the group? Nah, we want the all mirror RO8 and murder row of Terrans to the finals. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On June 03 2017 13:06 Boggyb wrote: Nah, we want the all mirror RO8 and murder row of Terrans to the finals. Now that i think about it, that's a wild TvTvTvT. Especially ByuN vs Maru (right?) | ||
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DieuCure
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AlexGPunkt
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Rooting for soO and Dark but think soO and Maru. | ||
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Phredxor
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DieuCure
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[–]Splyce_TheRedViper_ Cure isn't playing in them | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 13:22 Boggyb wrote: Those baneling connections didn't look great but it didn't matter. They zoned part of soO's army out enough for losira to get a much better engagement. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On June 03 2017 13:22 Boggyb wrote: Those baneling connections didn't look great but it didn't matter. I mean you lose so much dps if you have to move your roaches so much | ||
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Boggyb
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On June 03 2017 13:26 DieuCure wrote: Just imagine soO in loser bracket Against Dark. | ||
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DieuCure
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Dark deserves a bad year after his affront in gsl s1 2017 | ||
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Boggyb
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On June 03 2017 13:28 DieuCure wrote: Dark deserves a bad year after his affront in gsl s1 2017 Not when it would give us Maru vs Losira in the winner's match. I can't imagine that not being an absolute slaughter. | ||
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Argonauta
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 13:34 Argonauta wrote: ZvZ is a good mirror, losira is just not a decent opponent vs soO Nice joke, I take note | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On June 03 2017 13:34 Argonauta wrote: ZvZ is a good mirror, losira is just not a decent opponent vs soO He won't game two fairly convincingly, though in all three games there really wasn't much going on besides one guy going all army while the other is not. Wow so interesting  | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 13:37 pvsnp wrote: Just think, if groups B and D swapped a few players we could have had a bunch of sick TvZs. Instead we get these bleh mirrors. And maybe we would have gotten fewer mirrors in the ro8 too. | ||
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Argonauta
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RKC
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Go soO Dark! SKT Fighting! | ||
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 13:39 Argonauta wrote: I just like the ling bane skirmishes and the mindgames, and we have plenty of both, yet I feel like tastosis miss some of them It's funny for 4-5 minutes, then roach ravager | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On June 03 2017 13:39 Argonauta wrote: I just like the ling bane skirmishes and the mindgames, and we have plenty of both, yet I feel like tastosis miss some of them actualy ling bling wars are/were fun because it's about micro. I think they catched the mindgames (lair cancel, etc). It's just kinda bland that one guy pumps army and the other simply loses | ||
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DieuCure
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 13:41 DieuCure wrote: Rofl who's close of TY lvl artosis ? Cure maybe? | ||
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 13:42 The_Red_Viper wrote: Hopefully this tvz is great (and maru wins) then pool first | ||
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DieuCure
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The_Red_Viper
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On June 03 2017 13:42 DieuCure wrote: Cure is way better than TY so not so close Dude it was funny for the first few posts | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On June 03 2017 13:45 DieuCure wrote: TY is like herO with some weird builds, when Cure is Stats Cure is more like a foreign terran: irrelevant | ||
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AlexGPunkt
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On June 03 2017 13:45 DieuCure wrote: TY is like herO with some weird builds, when Cure is Stats Staying on this is like the weird uncle that does not know when to stop with the dad jokes... | ||
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lolfail9001
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On June 03 2017 13:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The 5-rax reaper follow up is amusing though pretty glass cannon. I didn't think anyone other than Kelazhur did stuff like this. ByuN did against Rogue actually. | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 03 2017 13:48 DieuCure wrote: You really think it's a joke ? Without practice Cure was better than dark in gsl s1, his decision making killed him but that was still impressive In my book the player that wins is the better player. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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Interesting. I always thought the macro (double engineering bay, 3 CC follow up) was better. Yeah you can't kill your opponent outright as often, but you usually still have some sort of edge going into the mid-game, whereas for the 5-rax you can just die. | ||
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 13:49 Charoisaur wrote: In my book the player that wins is the better player. But you have to watch the game before saying calumnies | ||
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lolfail9001
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On June 03 2017 13:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Interesting. I always thought the macro (double engineering bay, 3 CC follow up) was better. Yeah you can't kill your opponent outright as often, but you usually still have some sort of edge going into the mid-game, whereas for the 5-rax you can just die. If you did not notice Maru had double ebay 3 CC follow up as well. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On June 03 2017 13:51 Nakajin wrote: I. Fucking. Hate. Reaper. Yeah, they should replace those lame grenades with cluster bombs from WoL campaign. | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 03 2017 13:52 lolfail9001 wrote: Yeah, they should replace those lame grenades with cluster bombs from WoL campaign. or with spider mines  | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 03 2017 13:52 DieuCure wrote: Oh no again .... was hoping for some sick tvz.... | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 13:51 lolfail9001 wrote: If you did not notice Maru had double ebay 3 CC follow up as well. Yeah of course, but with the 5 rax reaper you're still in a fragile position despite that since you don't have much of an army if you can't find damage when it goes into the mid-game. | ||
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Nakajin
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And I say thay playing T. | ||
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 13:54 Scarlett` wrote: one day reapers will be balanced But when a foreigner does it he loses ( uthermal and major ) | ||
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 13:54 Nakajin wrote: I swear to god Byun is the devil getting everyone to do this stupid shit. And I say thay playing T. Ye just imagine a different reaper, ladder TvT should have been fine in 2016 and pros TvZ too | ||
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lolfail9001
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On June 03 2017 13:54 Nakajin wrote: I swear to god Byun is the devil getting everyone to do this stupid shit. And I say thay playing T. Is it stupid if it wins? | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 13:54 DieuCure wrote: But when a foreigner does it he loses ( uthermal and major ) To be fair the ladder map pool is much more hostile to reapers than the GSL map pool. | ||
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RKC
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 13:56 RKC wrote: I never get the purpose of reapers. It's just an extra unnecessary gimmick out of a Terran's toolbox super early game. Marines already have an edge over zealots and lings. Remove reapers please! The reaper is necessary for early scouting. A grenade nerf would be nice though. | ||
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Durnuu
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On June 03 2017 13:56 RKC wrote: I never get the purpose of reapers. It's just an extra unnecessary gimmick out of a Terran's toolbox super early game. Marines already have an edge over zealots and lings. Remove reapers please! Reapers are fine, but grenades should probably be removed. Or as Snute once proposed, have limited charges | ||
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AlexGPunkt
Germany258 Posts
Maybe wrong word. Lets change stupid to "fun-killing and unbalanced"!!! | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On June 03 2017 13:57 Durnuu wrote: Reapers are fine, but grenades should probably be removed. Or as Snute once proposed, have limited charges Snute should be the next David Kim | ||
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 13:56 RKC wrote: I never get the purpose of reapers. It's just an extra unnecessary gimmick out of a Terran's toolbox super early game. Marines already have an edge over zealots and lings. Remove reapers please! without reaper -> spam bbust | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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Snute didn't even make a balance mod yet | ||
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RKC
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On June 03 2017 13:54 Nakajin wrote: I swear to god Byun is the devil getting everyone to do this stupid shit. And I say thay playing T. I blame Byun for abusive plays and the direction the game is taking. But hey, Bliz probably figures that's what the average fan wants to see (fast action and hard counters), so stuff like reapers and adepts are here to stay. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On June 03 2017 14:03 Boggyb wrote: Terran didn't raise his wall. That's game. When will Zerglings be balanced? Marine drop can fly over the wall. That's game. When will Marines be balanced? | ||
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Durnuu
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On June 03 2017 14:03 Boggyb wrote: Terran didn't raise his wall. That's game. When will Zerglings be balanced? Instead of rallying everything to the front, you can rally to a depot. Boom, problem solved | ||
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Nakajin
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On June 03 2017 14:03 Boggyb wrote: Terran didn't raise his wall. That's game. When will Zerglings be balanced? He was in a lot of trouble anyway, that was a strange push from Maru. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 14:05 Nakajin wrote: He was in a lot of trouble anyway, that was a strange push from Maru. It was a necessary push I think. He was too far behind otherwise. | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 03 2017 14:04 lolfail9001 wrote: Marine drop can fly over the wall. That's game. When will Marines be balanced? Infested terrans can spawn on the other side of the wall. That's game. When will infested terrans be balanced? | ||
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lolfail9001
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On June 03 2017 14:06 Charoisaur wrote: Infested terrans can spawn on the other side of the wall. That's game. When will infested terrans be balanced? And just like that, a meme was born. | ||
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Nakajin
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On June 03 2017 14:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It was a necessary push I think. He was too far behind otherwise. Ya your probably right | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:08 Boggyb wrote: If these are reapers, I might have to stop rooting for you Maru. Reapers are why I hate ByuN. It's marines you can still cheer for him. | ||
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RKC
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Or maybe that would be to OP against Dustin Browder's fave unit of the game... | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:09 RKC wrote: Why not let reapers jump over boulders too? Adds more mid-game viability. Or maybe that would be to OP against Dustin Browder's fave unit of the game... I think they can if the rocks are small enough. | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:13 Charoisaur wrote: 4 banshees??? How many do you need before it's worth it to research hyperflight rotors? | ||
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Boggyb
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On June 03 2017 14:13 Charoisaur wrote: 4 banshees??? Banshees are super strong if they aren't taking damage. | ||
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RaFox17
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On June 03 2017 14:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Maybe one day Zerg will have real anti air IT WILL NOT BE THIS DAY!! | ||
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 14:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Maybe one day Zerg will have real anti air Ye since queens arent in the game anymore | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 03 2017 14:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Maybe one day Zerg will have real anti air 8 range queens with transfuse not good enough | ||
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Boggyb
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On June 03 2017 14:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Maybe one day Zerg will have real anti air What weakness would Zerg have then? | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:16 Charoisaur wrote: 8 range queens with transfuse not good enough Queens feel so... artificial... if that makes sense. Band-aid range | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:19 Nakajin wrote: Please don't cheese SoO, come on the poor guy deserve better then that. soO vs Innovation final still makes me laugh. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On June 03 2017 14:23 DieuCure wrote: If maru wins we have a Rogue vs Maru ro 8 !! Yeah, i prefer all-mirror over that. | ||
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Boggyb
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On June 03 2017 14:23 DieuCure wrote: If maru wins we have a Rogue vs Maru ro 8 !! As much as I love Rogue and want him to be GSL champion, that's basically a bye for Maru into the round of 4. | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:21 lolfail9001 wrote: soO vs Innovation final still makes me laugh. To each their guilty pleasure I guess, for me it's the sOs vs MKP one. I love SoO to much to enjoy watching him getting destroyed. | ||
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 14:25 Boggyb wrote: As much as I love Rogue and want him to be GSL champion, that's basically a bye for Maru into the round of 4. Rogue has a decent tvz, watch his games against TY | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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On June 03 2017 14:27 TheLordofAwesome wrote: What is this song before every game? Someone else found it, it's a little cheesey for my tastes  | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 03 2017 14:27 DieuCure wrote: Rogue has a decent tvz, watch his games against TY he's also sitting at 7k MMR. rank 1 GM currently | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 14:29 Charoisaur wrote: he's also sitting at 7k MMR. rank 1 GM currently You mean we should expect him to collapse in offline events? | ||
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 14:29 Charoisaur wrote: he's also sitting at 7k MMR. rank 1 GM currently Yep + secure a ro4 should be a good reward for Jin Air ( our saviour ) | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:35 AlexGPunkt wrote: Oh, we have a game here... not really maru is dead | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:37 DieuCure wrote: There is a zerg lvl where even maru cant harass This doesn't look like top-tier Maru. | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 03 2017 14:37 DieuCure wrote: There is a zerg lvl where even maru cant harass Yeah there you need someone like Cure to do damage. | ||
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 14:39 Charoisaur wrote: Yeah there you need someone like Cure to do damage. Cure won him 2-0 in gsl s1 last year  | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:42 lolfail9001 wrote: So, all-mirror ro8 dream is alive? Looks more and more likely | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:42 lolfail9001 wrote: So, all-mirror ro8 dream is alive? I don't know if Maru beats Dark again with this level of play. | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:48 Argonauta wrote: I swear, 2015 maru would have raised that depot 2013 maru would have, let alone 2015 one. | ||
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I wonder how many games he lost because of it | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 03 2017 14:51 Boggyb wrote: Fake reapers and go something else please. how do you fake reapers? | ||
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 14:53 RKC wrote: Is this the state of TvZ nowadays? What's the best matchup now? T v T | ||
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Boggyb
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I meant fake 3rax. Not sure how or if it is possible, but no more reapers. | ||
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 14:53 Boggyb wrote: I meant fake 3rax. Not sure how or if it is possible, but no more reapers. It's viable against protoss , not zerg, zerg can be so greedy then | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:54 Phredxor wrote: Can we remove Terran from the game pls? Only after we get rid of Zerg and Protoss. | ||
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Nakajin
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On June 03 2017 14:53 Boggyb wrote: I meant fake 3rax. Not sure how or if it is possible, but no more reapers. You proxi 3 rax then float them in the zerg main block the ramp and go 3cc at home | ||
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Phredxor
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Deal. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 14:53 Boggyb wrote: I meant fake 3rax. Not sure how or if it is possible, but no more reapers. You could go 3-rax marauder I suppose. Or brilliantly fake reapers by going for something other than reapers, since soO would probably blindly (and correctly) assume reapers were coming. | ||
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RKC
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Not to Inno, perhaps  | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 14:54 DieuCure wrote: It's viable against protoss , not zerg, zerg can be so greedy then Huh? Why would Protoss be afraid of or expect a 3-rax? | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Huh? Why would Protoss be afraid of or expect a 3-rax? Not fake 3 rax but 3 rax after cc first ( i'm irrelevant ) | ||
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he isn't even playing | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:57 Charoisaur wrote: cmon stop this Byun circlejerk... he isn't even playing He is the best micro player of all time, you hater | ||
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On June 03 2017 14:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Ah Maru finally innovating with the 7 rax reaper. 7 rax reaper with stim. ah now making marines | ||
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On June 03 2017 15:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I'm watching both Maru and Masa go pure mass reaper on two streams. This is where TvZ is now I guess It's weird, this build wasnt a thing since blizzcon | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 14:59 Charoisaur wrote: 7 rax reaper with stim. ah now making marines The stim is why he lost. He lacked faith in the reaper. | ||
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On June 03 2017 15:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The stim is why he lost. He lacked faith in the reaper. IKR? Reapers won't serve well for faithless heretics. | ||
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On June 03 2017 15:04 Inflicted wrote: perfect bracket for soO, dodging Protoss in the finals But semifinals are ro7 | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On June 03 2017 15:05 lolfail9001 wrote: soO advances to another Code S finals, huh. That would be great | ||
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Durnuu
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Gonna get 4 finals in a row again (and lose all of them again) | ||
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Nakajin
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On June 03 2017 15:04 Inflicted wrote: perfect bracket for soO, dodging Protoss in the finals Now if only he could dodge the final he would be a GSL champ. | ||
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lolfail9001
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I mean, he is playing Rogue, it means he is in Ro4 already. In Ro4 he probably beats Stats or Classic in revenge for loss to them in finals (remember Zest vs soO Ro4? Yeah, that's what i am talking about). And when he should pray Dark or Losira get there through all the terrans. | ||
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On June 03 2017 15:06 Durnuu wrote: Gonna get 4 finals in a row again (and lose all of them again) That's the most disgusting thing I've seen on screen today. (Aside from reapers, of course.) | ||
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Nakajin
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Fun fact SoO never lost in a round of 8 or a semi final in the GSL (actually now that I think about it I can remember any tournament that happened to him) | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 03 2017 15:07 lolfail9001 wrote: I mean, he is playing Rogue, it means he is in Ro4 already. In Ro4 he probably beats Stats or Classic in revenge for loss to them in finals (remember Zest vs soO Ro4? Yeah, that's what i am talking about). And when he should pray Dark or Losira get there through all the terrans. don't underestimate Rogue he's also a zvz specialist. He has a 8-3 record against soO. | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 03 2017 15:11 ElPres1dente wrote: I feel like Marus only chance now is when Dark loses against Losira no way he can 3-rax reaper Dark again Or maybe he'll switch it up and do something else.............. who am I kidding, he will play reapers every game | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 15:11 ElPres1dente wrote: I feel like Marus only chance now is when Dark loses against Losira no way he can 3-rax reaper Dark again You underestimate his power. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On June 03 2017 15:10 Charoisaur wrote: don't underestimate Rogue he's also a zvz specialist. He has a 8-3 record against soO. It is soO ZvZ in play-offs. The only way he loses is if it's finals, and it is Ro8. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On June 03 2017 15:08 Nakajin wrote: Fun fact SoO never lost in a round of 8 or a semi final in the GSL (actually now that I think about it I can remember any tournament that happened to him) Haha yeah that's pretty amazing. | ||
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Charoisaur
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If he can get the highground with his reapers he could win. | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 03 2017 15:08 Nakajin wrote: Fun fact SoO never lost in a round of 8 or a semi final in the GSL (actually now that I think about it I can remember any tournament that happened to him) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_GSL_Global_Championship lost in ro4 | ||
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On June 03 2017 15:14 Charoisaur wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_GSL_Global_Championship lost in ro4 So it took a peak form Zest? Damn. | ||
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RKC
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On June 03 2017 15:13 Charoisaur wrote: If he can get the highground with his reapers he could win. He will try. | ||
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AshC
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On June 03 2017 15:08 Nakajin wrote: Fun fact SoO never lost in a round of 8 or a semi final in the GSL (actually now that I think about it I can remember any tournament that happened to him) That is very true. If soO makes out of group stage in regular GSL season, he would make it to the final. So it is very likely that he will make to the final this season as well. He is very consistent this year and I really cross my fingers that he will finally win GSL this season. | ||
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On June 03 2017 15:21 RKC wrote: Eh I slipped away for a toilet break and G1 is over? What happened? 1 base lings banes from Dark. Not 12 pool. Just pool first. Losira defended poorly and died. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 15:44 Ej_ wrote: Anyway what's up with the people saying that Classic/Stats won't destroy soO? They believe in ro4 soO. Besides with Rogue beating herO it doesn't seem like much of a stretch. | ||
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On June 03 2017 15:47 AshC wrote: In Newkirk, I never play hatch first as a Z myself on that map because 12 pool happens a lot on that map. Silly progamers, they 17hatch almost every game on Newkirk | ||
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On June 03 2017 15:50 DieuCure wrote: Ye but dark pool first everytime even against terran so it's not really smart to go hatch first against him in zvz It's rock/paper/scissors. And Losira would have actuallly held the all-in easily if his 2nd overlord hadn't barely missed the first lings. | ||
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HKTPZ
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Were the games good today? Should I watch the vods | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 15:50 HKTPZ wrote: Hey guys - just woke up in time for maru dark Were the games good today? Should I watch the vods Do you like 3-rax reapers? | ||
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AshC
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On June 03 2017 15:48 Ej_ wrote: Silly progamers, they 17hatch almost every game on Newkirk Sure why not if he thinks he can defend early aggression well which he doesn't. Game 1 already indicated that. That game wasn't even a 12 pool. It was like 16 pool and he died to that. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On June 03 2017 15:44 Ej_ wrote: Anyway what's up with the people saying that Classic/Stats won't destroy soO? We remember Zest vs soO in GSL 2014 S3. soO can sometimes find an inner Mvp when it comes to getting to finals. | ||
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Argonauta
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More like Do you like 7 rax reaper? | ||
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On June 03 2017 15:52 AshC wrote: Sure why not if he thinks he can defend early aggression well which he doesn't. Game 1 already indicated that. That game wasn't even a 12 pool. It was like 16 pool and he died to that. If 1 base all-in off a later pool was any easier to hold than 12pool, then Dark wouldn't have done it. But hey, everybody is a coach in live report threads and you can obviously extract ridiculous amounts of data about players from 3 games played on a single day. | ||
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On June 03 2017 15:52 lolfail9001 wrote: We remember Zest vs soO in GSL 2014 S3. soO can sometimes find an inner Mvp when it comes to getting to finals. I'll bet you $10 that soO won't make the finals again. | ||
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Sure, if the Terran is destroyed. | ||
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Then you'll like soO vs Maru on Newkirk. | ||
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On June 03 2017 16:01 ElPres1dente wrote: Is there any other terran that does bunker rushes anymore? Masa, a couple hours ago. Although tbf, he is also a Maru | ||
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On June 03 2017 16:01 Ej_ wrote: 1 base mutalisk would've won this game! Not really. | ||
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MINDGAMES | ||
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Responding seriously to jokes aside, if he had started lair already on 1 base instead of banking money to double expand, he would have the mutas out by the time banshees and hellbats come. | ||
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On June 03 2017 16:06 DieuCure wrote: 2-1-1 please 2-1-1 but with reapers | ||
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wasnt maru who did reaper drops? | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 16:07 Ej_ wrote: Isn't it the first time he plays TvZ on WW? Reapers aren't exactly good here and proxy from the middle isn't that great. Reapers aren't exactly amazing on Ascension or Abyssal, but it didn't stop Maru. | ||
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On June 03 2017 16:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Reapers aren't exactly amazing on Ascension or Abyssal, but it didn't stop Maru. Definitely not as bad as WW where you can hop into the main only from the natural. | ||
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AshC
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On June 03 2017 15:53 Ej_ wrote: If 1 base all-in off a later pool was any easier to hold than 12pool, then Dark wouldn't have done it. But hey, everybody is a coach in live report threads and you can obviously extract ridiculous amounts of data about players from 3 games played on a single day. I didn't live-coach anyone. I said what I said when the games were done. I simply questioned why he did what he did. He played into his weakness and Dark's strength from what I SAW. No need to use the mockery tone on my analysis just because you don't agree. Feel free to bring your logic into the discussion in a mature matter. | ||
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On June 03 2017 16:10 Ej_ wrote: Definitely not as bad as WW where you can hop into the main only from the natural. True, Whirlwind is significantly worse since not only is there no cliff surface area, but there's also a ramp at the natural. However I try not to assume players won't 3-rax reaper since I've seen uThermal 3-rax reaper on Flame Juggler, one of the worst 3-rax reaper maps in existence. | ||
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This isn't Brood War, Tasteless. | ||
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On June 03 2017 16:15 DieuCure wrote: "You have to expand a lot as LBM player" Good thing he doesn't have the "M" | ||
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On June 03 2017 16:17 Durnuu wrote: Dark is actually ahead in supply, what a god But down in liberators | ||
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On June 03 2017 16:20 DieuCure wrote: Maru is bully, he knew he was better at macro game so he wanted to humiliate by spamming 3rax He's been playing this game pretty poorly, but Dark was too far behind to catch up. | ||
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On June 03 2017 16:21 Ej_ wrote: He's been playing this game pretty poorly, but Dark was too far behind to catch up. Hm? | ||
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On June 03 2017 16:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I wonder what is the biggest supply deficit a Zerg has ever come back from in a ZvNotZ. That was certainly far too much Probably some Stephano game with swarm hosts | ||
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Now, we have all mirror matchup on Ro8. Guarantee 2 T, 1 P and 1 Z. | ||
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DieuCure
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On June 03 2017 16:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I wonder what is the biggest supply deficit a Zerg has ever come back from in a ZvNotZ. That was certainly far too much I dont know but i remember a TvZ with a really low vcs count come back on Lerilak Crest | ||
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Ej_
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Dark opened 17/17/17 and got done literally nothing with it, then got supply blocked because his scouting ovie was killed right before speed finished. Maru this game: -forgot armory -was losing way too much in drop harassment -forgot 3/3 I think Dark's only misplay was sending too many zerglings to harass 3rd (probably expected an army there instead of a naked OC with SCVs happily mining). | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On June 03 2017 16:27 Ej_ wrote: Dark opened 17/17/17 and got done literally nothing with it, then got supply blocked because his scouting ovie was killed right before speed finished. Maru this game: -forgot armory -was losing way too much in drop harassment -forgot 3/3 I think Dark's only misplay was sending too many zerglings to harass 3rd (probably expected an army there instead of a naked OC with SCVs happily mining). I guess Maru got only ahead to finish the game with 2/2 with pure luck then. Sure he made mistakes, forgetting 3/3 is really bad. But apparently it didn't matter. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 03 2017 16:24 lolfail9001 wrote: What was the last time that even happened, anyway? I don't remember this ever happening. It probably has though--the chances of it happening are 1/81 or maybe slightly better. | ||
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pvsnp
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But actually, 4 fucking mirrors is just shitty starcraft. | ||
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On June 03 2017 16:34 TheLordofAwesome wrote: Maru went 5rax reapers in 8 of 9 TvZs he played today, is that right? Didn't watch the two first series, but he did go proxy 2-rax marines in g2 vs Dark. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On June 03 2017 16:34 TheLordofAwesome wrote: Maru went 5rax reapers in 8 of 9 TvZs he played today, is that right? No, he bunker rushed two games | ||
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Unlike many top players (sOs, Inno, Zest, etc.), he rarely ever gets bopped straight up. He always puts up a fight, a show. He will be missed. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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Yeah. Also not all the 3-rax reaper games had the 5-rax transition. In two (or three maybe?) of the six reaper games he transitioned normally. | ||
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On June 03 2017 16:24 lolfail9001 wrote: What was the last time that even happened, anyway? Full mirror GSL Ro8? This is the first ever. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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It is the first time for any premier tournament though? I thought at least one tournament in the blink stalker PvP era would have had an all mirror round of 8 (by virtue of 6 of those players being Protoss), but I couldn't find any. | ||
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J. Corsair
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On June 03 2017 16:27 Ej_ wrote: Dark opened 17/17/17 and got done literally nothing with it, then got supply blocked because his scouting ovie was killed right before speed finished. Maru this game: -forgot armory -was losing way too much in drop harassment -forgot 3/3 I think Dark's only misplay was sending too many zerglings to harass 3rd (probably expected an army there instead of a naked OC with SCVs happily mining). Uhhh... No. Maru barely lost anything during his extremely heavy drop play, and that amount of drop precision would regularly make other elite zerg players crumble. Dark did incredibly well just keeping the losses manageable. Maru didn't deal much damage, but you are wrong to infer that he lost anything unnecessary during the harassment. Just because he didn't kill tons of drones or snipe a hatchery doesn't make the harassment unsuccessful. He didn't lose any full dropships, didn't take any noteworthy baneling hits, and clearly he DID enough to DISTRACT Dark and continually deny the zerg 4th base. Each player made one big mistake this game; these mistakes being Dark's scouting supply block and Maru's mis-transfer of SCV's to his 3rd orbital. You also assert Maru forgot 3/3. Fair enough. But it appeared to me as if he knew that if he simply prioritized Liberators he would eventually choke Dark out of the game. I think his decision-making was spectacular in the final game, and the fact he won quite decisively seems to suggest that Maru was aware he simply didn't need to waste precious gas on infantry upgrades when he could invest in more liberators. And simply put, they won him the game. The SCV transfer mistake was undoubtedly that - a mistake. But it helped him in the end, and in elite competition the winner sometimes gets a smile from Lady Luck. Dark played great, but Maru played remarkably well. I've watched him fall apart in late-game TvZ so many times I was expecting nothing less here, but the speed with which he played combined with his seemingly improved intuition was pleasant to watch and that win was well-deserved. | ||
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On June 03 2017 18:33 The_Red_Viper wrote: I feel like not getting 3/3 is still a mistake though, no? I mean you keep producing bio units no matter what, adding liberators a bit later seems better? Arguably yes, it gave the ultras a lot more strength. | ||
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Rogue to the GSL final! | ||
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On June 04 2017 04:47 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches? The only Maru game worth watching was the final against Dark which was decent. The others were mass reapers or bunker rushes. | ||
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Deleted User 261926
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On June 03 2017 23:14 Boggyb wrote: I can safely root for Maru against ByuN regardless of how dirty he plays, but my fandom is on probation otherwise. If we get a Jin Air finals and he brings out that B.S. against Rogue, he'd probably be dead to me. I wouldn't define 3 rax reaper as a bullshit build. I think it's way less cheesy than some realize because thanks to the current way of transitioning out of it, terran can be in a decent spot even without doing heavy direct damage (the indirect damage is obvious: the zerg does not drone). I think it will be used a lot in TvZ and zergs will refine their answer to this particular type of build. | ||
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