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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
September 27 2016 15:22 GMT
#1021
Why are results no longer spoilered on the main post. What is this nonsense.
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 27 2016 15:28 GMT
#1022
On September 28 2016 00:22 Brutaxilos wrote:
Why are results no longer spoilered on the main post. What is this nonsense.


agree wtf, im back from work click tl.net and what i see? Neeb wins Kespa Cup group... dammit where are the vods :/
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
September 27 2016 15:33 GMT
#1023
Vods are here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV/videos

English videos are being uploaded right now, Korean vods are already up.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 15:38:05
September 27 2016 15:37 GMT
#1024
Pandemona told me he doesnt care if you get spoilered so sorry
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
September 27 2016 15:40 GMT
#1025
On September 28 2016 00:37 Shellshock wrote:
Pandemona told me he doesnt care if you get spoilered so sorry


Pande is now a Sniper level villain.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
September 27 2016 16:07 GMT
#1026
just caught up on the zerg games from this and the game on frost in particular was disappointing. zerg losing almost instantly to 7 adepts.. the frozen temple game was a tiny bit better but also did a good job of highlighting why the 'aggro/creative' ling/baneling style can be so bad on the defense. banes just don't perform against medium-large amounts of early adepts compared to roach ling.

as zerg it's tough to be a fan of games like this, these defense failures vs anything from 7 adept to dts aren't entertaining to watch and simply act as fast-forward/filler games. defending vs the rainbow sudoku that is early game protoss counts for so much of zerg's skill in the match-up and in these, zerg just didn't defend properly and gambled really hard on getting away easy and being cute with drops in the process. quite underwhelming to watch hoping for higher level zvp games in the next groups
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KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
September 27 2016 16:28 GMT
#1027
god dammit i knew i should've stayed up.
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 27 2016 16:28 GMT
#1028
N33B!!!

You are the chosen one to lead...

NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1206 Posts
September 27 2016 16:33 GMT
#1029
On September 28 2016 01:07 Liquid`Snute wrote:
just caught up on the zerg games from this and the game on frost in particular was disappointing. zerg losing almost instantly to 7 adepts.. the frozen temple game was a tiny bit better but also did a good job of highlighting why the 'aggro/creative' ling/baneling style can be so bad on the defense. banes just don't perform against medium-large amounts of early adepts compared to roach ling.

as zerg it's tough to be a fan of games like this, these defense failures vs anything from 7 adept to dts aren't entertaining to watch and simply act as fast-forward/filler games. defending vs the rainbow sudoku that is early game protoss counts for so much of zerg's skill in the match-up and in these, zerg just didn't defend properly and gambled really hard on getting away easy and being cute with drops in the process. quite underwhelming to watch hoping for higher level zvp games in the next groups


Given Rogue's performance, I'm not really sure that his games can be indicative of anything. He played poorly in the majority of his games (and not just against Neeb)

It's like trying to spell balance solely from looking at Byun vs Dear or Byun vs sOs. Does he make liberators look absurdly strong? Yes. But against players who react accordingly are they really that strong? They're still strong, but I don't think they're overpowered.

I'm not saying that Protoss doesn't have a lot of openings that you have to defend well or else die instantly, but I'm just saying that trying to pull balance from Rogue's games won't accomplish much.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12472 Posts
September 27 2016 17:25 GMT
#1030
On September 28 2016 01:33 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 01:07 Liquid`Snute wrote:
just caught up on the zerg games from this and the game on frost in particular was disappointing. zerg losing almost instantly to 7 adepts.. the frozen temple game was a tiny bit better but also did a good job of highlighting why the 'aggro/creative' ling/baneling style can be so bad on the defense. banes just don't perform against medium-large amounts of early adepts compared to roach ling.

as zerg it's tough to be a fan of games like this, these defense failures vs anything from 7 adept to dts aren't entertaining to watch and simply act as fast-forward/filler games. defending vs the rainbow sudoku that is early game protoss counts for so much of zerg's skill in the match-up and in these, zerg just didn't defend properly and gambled really hard on getting away easy and being cute with drops in the process. quite underwhelming to watch hoping for higher level zvp games in the next groups


Given Rogue's performance, I'm not really sure that his games can be indicative of anything. He played poorly in the majority of his games (and not just against Neeb)

It's like trying to spell balance solely from looking at Byun vs Dear or Byun vs sOs. Does he make liberators look absurdly strong? Yes. But against players who react accordingly are they really that strong? They're still strong, but I don't think they're overpowered.

I'm not saying that Protoss doesn't have a lot of openings that you have to defend well or else die instantly, but I'm just saying that trying to pull balance from Rogue's games won't accomplish much.


Snute was commenting on Rogue's play not on balance
No will to live, no wish to die
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 27 2016 19:20 GMT
#1031
On September 28 2016 00:37 Shellshock wrote:
Pandemona told me he doesnt care if you get spoilered so sorry


TL gets sold, LR's goes to shit. Coincidence? I think not.
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
941 Posts
September 27 2016 20:32 GMT
#1032
What they are announcing with a cute anime wolf gril?
:3
Ppjack
Profile Joined March 2015
Belgium489 Posts
September 27 2016 20:40 GMT
#1033
could someone tell me what is the reddit-tl like forum for sc2 in korea ? the place where the discussion is active actually

i'd like to test my google translate skills
<;o)
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
941 Posts
September 27 2016 20:50 GMT
#1034
http://www.pgr21.com/

I think this is the site.
:3
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 27 2016 20:51 GMT
#1035
Such a boring day tomorrow ... no foreigner, no Jin Air ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55585 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 21:18:32
September 27 2016 21:18 GMT
#1036
On September 28 2016 05:51 Diabolique wrote:
Such a boring day tomorrow ... no foreigner, no Jin Air ...

At least this means you can't get disappointed.

Although TRUE and TY used to be on Jin Air.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
September 27 2016 21:31 GMT
#1037
On September 28 2016 01:33 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 01:07 Liquid`Snute wrote:
just caught up on the zerg games from this and the game on frost in particular was disappointing. zerg losing almost instantly to 7 adepts.. the frozen temple game was a tiny bit better but also did a good job of highlighting why the 'aggro/creative' ling/baneling style can be so bad on the defense. banes just don't perform against medium-large amounts of early adepts compared to roach ling.

as zerg it's tough to be a fan of games like this, these defense failures vs anything from 7 adept to dts aren't entertaining to watch and simply act as fast-forward/filler games. defending vs the rainbow sudoku that is early game protoss counts for so much of zerg's skill in the match-up and in these, zerg just didn't defend properly and gambled really hard on getting away easy and being cute with drops in the process. quite underwhelming to watch hoping for higher level zvp games in the next groups


Given Rogue's performance, I'm not really sure that his games can be indicative of anything. He played poorly in the majority of his games (and not just against Neeb)

It's like trying to spell balance solely from looking at Byun vs Dear or Byun vs sOs. Does he make liberators look absurdly strong? Yes. But against players who react accordingly are they really that strong? They're still strong, but I don't think they're overpowered.

I'm not saying that Protoss doesn't have a lot of openings that you have to defend well or else die instantly, but I'm just saying that trying to pull balance from Rogue's games won't accomplish much.


You should probably read that you're replying to.

Congrats to Neeb. Rogue played crap the entire night IMO and deservedly goes out last place. He's definitely had moments of 'creativity' this year, but overall he's been quite a let down compared of last year. You can also see that his builds really aren't too solid at all, and were quite a gamble. I'm happy Neeb was able to expose that with just clean, solid play.

Zest was...okay. I've seen him play worse tbh. He had some seriously derpy moments, particular with his adepts, but lol that's sort of Zest's trademark at this point. Need looked rock solid throughout the whole series.

Neeb didn't play out of his mind or anything like that. Which in fact, is almost the best part about it, he didn't need to show anything special. Neeb was able to play solid, well crafted and well executed builds which was enough to dominate both Rogue and Zest. It feels good when a foreigner can just play solid and beat Koreans, really gave me flashbacks to the days of Naniwa in Korea.

Byun...poor guy. Byun was a bit off today IMO, still played okay but made some game-losing mistakes and got a bit unlucky at some points. Zest deserved his victories against him for sure though. Even Byun's best game, the KSS one, he was quite sloppy and really shouldn't have lost that tank like that.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 27 2016 21:45 GMT
#1038
On September 28 2016 06:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 05:51 Diabolique wrote:
Such a boring day tomorrow ... no foreigner, no Jin Air ...

At least this means you can't get disappointed.

Although TRUE and TY used to be on Jin Air.

TY joining KT was the reason i chose KT as well, hehe
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55585 Posts
September 27 2016 21:55 GMT
#1039
On September 28 2016 06:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 06:18 Elentos wrote:
On September 28 2016 05:51 Diabolique wrote:
Such a boring day tomorrow ... no foreigner, no Jin Air ...

At least this means you can't get disappointed.

Although TRUE and TY used to be on Jin Air.

TY joining KT was the reason i chose KT as well, hehe

So what happened to your last signature?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
September 27 2016 23:02 GMT
#1040
On September 28 2016 05:51 Diabolique wrote:
Such a boring day tomorrow ... no foreigner, no Jin Air ...

Koreigner.
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