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On August 25 2016 22:14 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 22:01 RKC wrote:Does this mean Classic can't make it to Blizzcon?  But congrats to Dark for making it to the second finals!  He can still make Blizzcon, but he needs Patience, MyuNgSiK and ByuN to stop earning points soon. Also if Patience gets to the SSL finals and Ryung wins the GSL finals against sOs, I think Classic is the saddest fucker around because he'll have more WCS points than Ryung but Ryung will take his Blizzcon spot.
Classic's best chances are if Ryung wins tomorrow and then TY/Dear wins GSL
Solar or Dear will get locked in tomorrow and the other will likely qualify so Classic really needs the higher placed players to win both starleagues
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On August 25 2016 22:30 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 22:14 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:01 RKC wrote:Does this mean Classic can't make it to Blizzcon? But congrats to Dark for making it to the second finals! He can still make Blizzcon, but he needs Patience, MyuNgSiK and ByuN to stop earning points soon. Also if Patience gets to the SSL finals and Ryung wins the GSL finals against sOs, I think Classic is the saddest fucker around because he'll have more WCS points than Ryung but Ryung will take his Blizzcon spot. Classic's best chances are if Ryung wins tomorrow and then TY/Dear wins GSL Solar or Dear will get locked in tomorrow and the other will likely qualify so Classic really needs the higher placed players to win both starleagues
Damn, need so many permutations to go his way. Not promising odds, I suppose. Less than 50%.
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On August 25 2016 19:58 Rehio wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 19:55 Aeromi wrote:I really do not like Rapid stylr of casting, feels forcedto hype things It feels really fake to me. =/ And I know there are moments where he's just kinda lying to make it sound like he's been invested in SC2. I don't even expect him to be some hardcore SC2 follower, but it's just weird when he says stuff like "Yeah, Frozen Temple, the map that's been around as long as I can remember." (Frozen Temple's Competition Span: 2016-03-28)
Accusing someone of lying and then presuming that you know their motive is a super not nice thing to do. Do I want to sound like an idiot? No, but I don't lie to cover that up. If I don't know something I either ask my co-caster, say I don't know, or ask someone who does know to tweet the answer at me. In your example I meant to reference King Sejong Station (since it's been around for several years) but I mixed up which map it was (my bad). Not because I was trying to lie to get people to think I care about starcraft, but because I made a genuine mistake (just like every time I use BW unit names @#%^#$%#).
I know it might seem weird for me to "pop out of nowhere" but I have been casting for almost 6 years now and even though it's been mostly LoL, I started out with Broodwar since it's how I was introduced to eSports, watched every WoL GSL broadcast religiously, and have been following as much of LotV as I can. If my passion and sincerity don't show through, that's my fault, but it doesn't mean it's not there.
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Elentos
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On August 25 2016 22:38 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 22:30 Inflicted wrote:On August 25 2016 22:14 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:01 RKC wrote:Does this mean Classic can't make it to Blizzcon? But congrats to Dark for making it to the second finals! He can still make Blizzcon, but he needs Patience, MyuNgSiK and ByuN to stop earning points soon. Also if Patience gets to the SSL finals and Ryung wins the GSL finals against sOs, I think Classic is the saddest fucker around because he'll have more WCS points than Ryung but Ryung will take his Blizzcon spot. Classic's best chances are if Ryung wins tomorrow and then TY/Dear wins GSL Solar or Dear will get locked in tomorrow and the other will likely qualify so Classic really needs the higher placed players to win both starleagues Damn, need so many permutations to go his way. Not promising odds, I suppose. Less than 50%.
I'm pretty sure this is what it boils down to.
If Patience wins against Solar next Thursday:
- neither of MyuNgSiK and ByuN may make the GSL finals
- neither sOs, nor Ryung may win GSL
If Patience loses against Solar:
- at least one of MyuNgSiK or ByuN has to not make the GSL finals
- if one of them makes the GSL finals, neither sOs nor Ryung may win GSL
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On August 25 2016 22:45 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 22:38 RKC wrote:On August 25 2016 22:30 Inflicted wrote:On August 25 2016 22:14 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:01 RKC wrote:Does this mean Classic can't make it to Blizzcon? But congrats to Dark for making it to the second finals! He can still make Blizzcon, but he needs Patience, MyuNgSiK and ByuN to stop earning points soon. Also if Patience gets to the SSL finals and Ryung wins the GSL finals against sOs, I think Classic is the saddest fucker around because he'll have more WCS points than Ryung but Ryung will take his Blizzcon spot. Classic's best chances are if Ryung wins tomorrow and then TY/Dear wins GSL Solar or Dear will get locked in tomorrow and the other will likely qualify so Classic really needs the higher placed players to win both starleagues Damn, need so many permutations to go his way. Not promising odds, I suppose. Less than 50%. I'm pretty sure this is what it boils down to. If Patience wins against Solar next Thursday: - neither of MyuNgSiK and ByuN may make the GSL finals - neither sOs, nor Ryung may win GSL If Patience loses against Solar: - at least one of MyuNgSiK or ByuN has to not make the GSL finals - if one of them makes the GSL finals, neither sOs nor Ryung may win GSL
Wow thanks! Do you keep a spreadsheet somewhere or crunch those algorithms inside your head? 
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Elentos
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On August 25 2016 22:51 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 22:45 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:38 RKC wrote:On August 25 2016 22:30 Inflicted wrote:On August 25 2016 22:14 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:01 RKC wrote:Does this mean Classic can't make it to Blizzcon? But congrats to Dark for making it to the second finals! He can still make Blizzcon, but he needs Patience, MyuNgSiK and ByuN to stop earning points soon. Also if Patience gets to the SSL finals and Ryung wins the GSL finals against sOs, I think Classic is the saddest fucker around because he'll have more WCS points than Ryung but Ryung will take his Blizzcon spot. Classic's best chances are if Ryung wins tomorrow and then TY/Dear wins GSL Solar or Dear will get locked in tomorrow and the other will likely qualify so Classic really needs the higher placed players to win both starleagues Damn, need so many permutations to go his way. Not promising odds, I suppose. Less than 50%. I'm pretty sure this is what it boils down to. If Patience wins against Solar next Thursday: - neither of MyuNgSiK and ByuN may make the GSL finals - neither sOs, nor Ryung may win GSL If Patience loses against Solar: - at least one of MyuNgSiK or ByuN has to not make the GSL finals - if one of them makes the GSL finals, neither sOs nor Ryung may win GSL Wow thanks! Do you keep a spreadsheet somewhere or crunch those algorithms inside your head?
I wish I had a spreadsheet, then I wouldn't have to check Lickypiddy after every match to see what changed 
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On August 25 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 22:51 RKC wrote:On August 25 2016 22:45 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:38 RKC wrote:On August 25 2016 22:30 Inflicted wrote:On August 25 2016 22:14 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:01 RKC wrote:Does this mean Classic can't make it to Blizzcon? But congrats to Dark for making it to the second finals! He can still make Blizzcon, but he needs Patience, MyuNgSiK and ByuN to stop earning points soon. Also if Patience gets to the SSL finals and Ryung wins the GSL finals against sOs, I think Classic is the saddest fucker around because he'll have more WCS points than Ryung but Ryung will take his Blizzcon spot. Classic's best chances are if Ryung wins tomorrow and then TY/Dear wins GSL Solar or Dear will get locked in tomorrow and the other will likely qualify so Classic really needs the higher placed players to win both starleagues Damn, need so many permutations to go his way. Not promising odds, I suppose. Less than 50%. I'm pretty sure this is what it boils down to. If Patience wins against Solar next Thursday: - neither of MyuNgSiK and ByuN may make the GSL finals - neither sOs, nor Ryung may win GSL If Patience loses against Solar: - at least one of MyuNgSiK or ByuN has to not make the GSL finals - if one of them makes the GSL finals, neither sOs nor Ryung may win GSL Wow thanks! Do you keep a spreadsheet somewhere or crunch those algorithms inside your head? I wish I had a spreadsheet, then I wouldn't have to check Lickypiddy after every match to see what changed
I wish Die4ever still posted his stuff and such things
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Elentos
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On August 25 2016 23:00 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:51 RKC wrote:On August 25 2016 22:45 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:38 RKC wrote:On August 25 2016 22:30 Inflicted wrote:On August 25 2016 22:14 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:01 RKC wrote:Does this mean Classic can't make it to Blizzcon? But congrats to Dark for making it to the second finals! He can still make Blizzcon, but he needs Patience, MyuNgSiK and ByuN to stop earning points soon. Also if Patience gets to the SSL finals and Ryung wins the GSL finals against sOs, I think Classic is the saddest fucker around because he'll have more WCS points than Ryung but Ryung will take his Blizzcon spot. Classic's best chances are if Ryung wins tomorrow and then TY/Dear wins GSL Solar or Dear will get locked in tomorrow and the other will likely qualify so Classic really needs the higher placed players to win both starleagues Damn, need so many permutations to go his way. Not promising odds, I suppose. Less than 50%. I'm pretty sure this is what it boils down to. If Patience wins against Solar next Thursday: - neither of MyuNgSiK and ByuN may make the GSL finals - neither sOs, nor Ryung may win GSL If Patience loses against Solar: - at least one of MyuNgSiK or ByuN has to not make the GSL finals - if one of them makes the GSL finals, neither sOs nor Ryung may win GSL Wow thanks! Do you keep a spreadsheet somewhere or crunch those algorithms inside your head? I wish I had a spreadsheet, then I wouldn't have to check Lickypiddy after every match to see what changed I wish Die4ever still posted his stuff and such things
RIP WCS Predictor passion
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On August 25 2016 22:40 rapidtransit247 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 19:58 Rehio wrote:On August 25 2016 19:55 Aeromi wrote:I really do not like Rapid stylr of casting, feels forcedto hype things It feels really fake to me. =/ And I know there are moments where he's just kinda lying to make it sound like he's been invested in SC2. I don't even expect him to be some hardcore SC2 follower, but it's just weird when he says stuff like "Yeah, Frozen Temple, the map that's been around as long as I can remember." (Frozen Temple's Competition Span: 2016-03-28) Accusing someone of lying and then presuming that you know their motive is a super not nice thing to do. Do I want to sound like an idiot? No, but I don't lie to cover that up. If I don't know something I either ask my co-caster, say I don't know, or ask someone who does know to tweet the answer at me. In your example I meant to reference King Sejong Station (since it's been around for several years) but I mixed up which map it was (my bad). Not because I was trying to lie to get people to think I care about starcraft, but because I made a genuine mistake (just like every time I use BW unit names @#%^#$%#). I know it might seem weird for me to "pop out of nowhere" but I have been casting for almost 6 years now and even though it's been mostly LoL, I started out with Broodwar since it's how I was introduced to eSports, watched every WoL GSL broadcast religiously, and have been following as much of LotV as I can. If my passion and sincerity don't show through, that's my fault, but it doesn't mean it's not there.
You're doing fine dude. People who live in an online bubble like to hyper focus on details that to them, are unforgivable mistakes, whereas to most of us that aren't agoraphobes, are perfectly naturalocated parts of communication. I'd like to hear some of these hyper critical posters cast some day. It's probably not the same as mumbling to yourself in your room about how dumb David Kim is.
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On August 25 2016 23:06 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 22:40 rapidtransit247 wrote:On August 25 2016 19:58 Rehio wrote:On August 25 2016 19:55 Aeromi wrote:I really do not like Rapid stylr of casting, feels forcedto hype things It feels really fake to me. =/ And I know there are moments where he's just kinda lying to make it sound like he's been invested in SC2. I don't even expect him to be some hardcore SC2 follower, but it's just weird when he says stuff like "Yeah, Frozen Temple, the map that's been around as long as I can remember." (Frozen Temple's Competition Span: 2016-03-28) Accusing someone of lying and then presuming that you know their motive is a super not nice thing to do. Do I want to sound like an idiot? No, but I don't lie to cover that up. If I don't know something I either ask my co-caster, say I don't know, or ask someone who does know to tweet the answer at me. In your example I meant to reference King Sejong Station (since it's been around for several years) but I mixed up which map it was (my bad). Not because I was trying to lie to get people to think I care about starcraft, but because I made a genuine mistake (just like every time I use BW unit names @#%^#$%#). I know it might seem weird for me to "pop out of nowhere" but I have been casting for almost 6 years now and even though it's been mostly LoL, I started out with Broodwar since it's how I was introduced to eSports, watched every WoL GSL broadcast religiously, and have been following as much of LotV as I can. If my passion and sincerity don't show through, that's my fault, but it doesn't mean it's not there. You're doing fine dude. People who live in an online bubble like to hyper focus on details that to them, are unforgivable mistakes, whereas to most of us that aren't agoraphobes, are perfectly naturalocated parts of communication. I'd like to hear some of these hyper critical posters cast some day. It's probably not the same as mumbling to yourself in your room about how dumb David Kim is.
I'll have you know that I go running every day to catch my Pokemon, sir, I am not an agoraphobe. And when I rant about David Kim, it's in a clear voice, with no mumbling!
But seriously, sorry about that. Looking back, it was a stupid comment made without much thought behind it. Sent a PM about how dumb I am to apologize, but here as well - Sorry, that was rude. Didn't mean to be, it was just a spur of the moment stupid internet comment, but it was dumb. Honestly, my apologies for being an unreasonable jerk.
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On August 25 2016 23:11 Rehio wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 23:06 sparklyresidue wrote:On August 25 2016 22:40 rapidtransit247 wrote:On August 25 2016 19:58 Rehio wrote:On August 25 2016 19:55 Aeromi wrote:I really do not like Rapid stylr of casting, feels forcedto hype things It feels really fake to me. =/ And I know there are moments where he's just kinda lying to make it sound like he's been invested in SC2. I don't even expect him to be some hardcore SC2 follower, but it's just weird when he says stuff like "Yeah, Frozen Temple, the map that's been around as long as I can remember." (Frozen Temple's Competition Span: 2016-03-28) Accusing someone of lying and then presuming that you know their motive is a super not nice thing to do. Do I want to sound like an idiot? No, but I don't lie to cover that up. If I don't know something I either ask my co-caster, say I don't know, or ask someone who does know to tweet the answer at me. In your example I meant to reference King Sejong Station (since it's been around for several years) but I mixed up which map it was (my bad). Not because I was trying to lie to get people to think I care about starcraft, but because I made a genuine mistake (just like every time I use BW unit names @#%^#$%#). I know it might seem weird for me to "pop out of nowhere" but I have been casting for almost 6 years now and even though it's been mostly LoL, I started out with Broodwar since it's how I was introduced to eSports, watched every WoL GSL broadcast religiously, and have been following as much of LotV as I can. If my passion and sincerity don't show through, that's my fault, but it doesn't mean it's not there. You're doing fine dude. People who live in an online bubble like to hyper focus on details that to them, are unforgivable mistakes, whereas to most of us that aren't agoraphobes, are perfectly naturalocated parts of communication. I'd like to hear some of these hyper critical posters cast some day. It's probably not the same as mumbling to yourself in your room about how dumb David Kim is. I'll have you know that I go running every day to catch my Pokemon, sir, I am not an agoraphobe. And when I rant about David Kim, it's in a clear voice, with no mumbling! But seriously, sorry about that. Looking back, it was a stupid comment made without much thought behind it. Sent a PM about how dumb I am to apologize, but here as well - Sorry, that was rude. Didn't mean to be, it was just a spur of the moment stupid internet comment, but it was dumb. Honestly, my apologies for being an unreasonable jerk.
Hey man, no worries. I am nothing if not understanding. I think I get where you're coming from being passionate about the game and wanting to see that reflected in the commentary when you watch. I really feel that burden to make the show as good as it can be, because when I watched GSL growing up I expected the same thing. Thanks for being so reasonable and understanding.
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Australia18228 Posts
On August 25 2016 22:51 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 22:45 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:38 RKC wrote:On August 25 2016 22:30 Inflicted wrote:On August 25 2016 22:14 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:01 RKC wrote:Does this mean Classic can't make it to Blizzcon? But congrats to Dark for making it to the second finals! He can still make Blizzcon, but he needs Patience, MyuNgSiK and ByuN to stop earning points soon. Also if Patience gets to the SSL finals and Ryung wins the GSL finals against sOs, I think Classic is the saddest fucker around because he'll have more WCS points than Ryung but Ryung will take his Blizzcon spot. Classic's best chances are if Ryung wins tomorrow and then TY/Dear wins GSL Solar or Dear will get locked in tomorrow and the other will likely qualify so Classic really needs the higher placed players to win both starleagues Damn, need so many permutations to go his way. Not promising odds, I suppose. Less than 50%. I'm pretty sure this is what it boils down to. If Patience wins against Solar next Thursday: - neither of MyuNgSiK and ByuN may make the GSL finals - neither sOs, nor Ryung may win GSL If Patience loses against Solar: - at least one of MyuNgSiK or ByuN has to not make the GSL finals - if one of them makes the GSL finals, neither sOs nor Ryung may win GSL Wow thanks! Do you keep a spreadsheet somewhere or crunch those algorithms inside your head?
I made a spreadsheet earlier today but screwed up the seeding when players finish less than 8th (goddam sOs/Ryung) which really affects Classic's chances.
Dark,Zest,Stats,TY should be locked in. Solar & Dear are like >90% of outcomes and one of them should be 100% after Dear/TY.
Classic & MyuNgSiK are around 40%.
I'll probably remake/fix it up after tomorrow matches
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On August 25 2016 23:31 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2016 22:51 RKC wrote:On August 25 2016 22:45 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:38 RKC wrote:On August 25 2016 22:30 Inflicted wrote:On August 25 2016 22:14 Elentos wrote:On August 25 2016 22:01 RKC wrote:Does this mean Classic can't make it to Blizzcon? But congrats to Dark for making it to the second finals! He can still make Blizzcon, but he needs Patience, MyuNgSiK and ByuN to stop earning points soon. Also if Patience gets to the SSL finals and Ryung wins the GSL finals against sOs, I think Classic is the saddest fucker around because he'll have more WCS points than Ryung but Ryung will take his Blizzcon spot. Classic's best chances are if Ryung wins tomorrow and then TY/Dear wins GSL Solar or Dear will get locked in tomorrow and the other will likely qualify so Classic really needs the higher placed players to win both starleagues Damn, need so many permutations to go his way. Not promising odds, I suppose. Less than 50%. I'm pretty sure this is what it boils down to. If Patience wins against Solar next Thursday: - neither of MyuNgSiK and ByuN may make the GSL finals - neither sOs, nor Ryung may win GSL If Patience loses against Solar: - at least one of MyuNgSiK or ByuN has to not make the GSL finals - if one of them makes the GSL finals, neither sOs nor Ryung may win GSL Wow thanks! Do you keep a spreadsheet somewhere or crunch those algorithms inside your head? I made a spreadsheet earlier today but screwed up the seeding when players finish less than 8th (goddam sOs/Ryung) which really affects Classic's chances. Dark,Zest,Stats,TY should be locked in. Solar & Dear are like >90% of outcomes and one of them should be 100% after Dear/TY. Classic & MyuNgSiK are around 40%. I'll probably remake/fix it up after tomorrow matches
While you're at it, could you also calculate the permutations for each Blizzcon group matchups?
(Haha, kidding, no need to. Great work!)
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looks like that last game is a must watch
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United States97277 Posts
disappointing for Classic
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Hell yeah Dark best zerg planet earth. Makes me happy to have watched him grow from a semidecent player in NASL to being such a god.
Hope he wins finals, goes to Blizzcon and gets that 200k!
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Hope Dark wins this, back to back champions are cool and stuff 
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Honestly I think Solar>Patience and sOs>myungsik, so I think Classic has a good chance of getting the 8th spot at least for blizzcon (Patience and myungsik would both have to advance to knock him down, something unlikely to happen) .
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Nice to see that people generally think these were great games, will check them out later for sure then!
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EPT
