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Alisports, StarLadder and ImbaTV are proud to announce world’s largest StarCraft 2: Legacy of the Void tournament with the biggest prize pool in the history of Blizzard’s RTS title. WESG (World Electronic Sports Games) features glorious US$402,000 prize pool for StarCraft 2 Global Grand Finals in December 2016, but this is not the full story of the event: StarCraft 2 fans will be able to enjoy four regional qualifiers with LAN finals during the next few months!
Qualification spots
As our tournament rules are very close to the rules of the Olympic Games, WESG features more than 40 national qualifiers, where the best representatives of each country and region can complete for spots in LAN finals. The regional qualifiers for WESG Global Grand Finals will take place in the following four regions: Asia-Pacific (APAC), Europe & CIS, North & South Americas, Africa & Middle East. The qualification spots to the WESG Global Grand Finals will be distributed among the winners of the regional qualifiers as follows:
China (host) - 1
Asia-Pacific (APAC) - 6
Europe & CIS - 8
North & South Americas - 6
Africa & Middle East - 3
Total - 24
Regional qualifiers
Regional qualifiers in Europe & CIS, North & South America, Africa & Middle East will be held by leading European eSports operator Starladder, while Chinese and Asia-Pacific ones will be held by leading Chinese operator ImbaTV. Please take a look at our brief schedule for the first regional qualifiers of WESG.
African Regional Qualifiers:
Registration for national qualifiers: August 5th - August 12th. HOW TO PLAY?
Qualifiers dates: August 13th - August 14th
Main event dates: August 26th - August 28th
Main event venue: Conrad Hotel, Dubai, UAE
European Regional Qualifiers:
Early September - LAN finals in October
American Regional Qualifiers:
Late September - LAN finals in October
These qualifiers will be organized by
- Alex007 of Starladder - TL Profile - Twitter @Alex007UA
- Liveon of the Dutch StarCraft League - Twitter @DSCLeague
We will keep this thread updated with all the latest news and results. Don't hesitate to reach out to us via PM, Twitter or email wesg.sc2@starladder.tv if you have any questions.
More details about regional qualifiers and registration procedure can be found on WESG StarCraft 2 website.
China will be the hosting country of the 2016 WESG Global Grand Finals and the winner of the Chinese national qualifiers will directly qualify for the Global Grand Finals.
Prize pool
Prize pool of WESG StarCraft 2 Global Grand Finals:
1st - $200,000
2nd - $100,000
3rd - $50,000
4th - $20,000
5th-8th $8,000
Total - $402,000
Prize pool of WESG Regional LAN Finals*:
1st - $12,000
2nd - $6,000
3rd - $3,000
4th - $1,500
5th-8th - $1,200
Total - $27,300
* Prize pool is fixed in CYN so this one is based on current CYN/USD currency
Other information
For more updates, follow WESG on Twitter and Facebook.
VoDs will be posted on our Youtube channel
Source press-releases:
WESG Announcement
African Qualifiers
May the best StarCraft 2 player win!
Update players Dubai
The players for the African and Middle-east regional qualifier in Dubai are now known:
-  Stephano (Tunesia)
- Divain (Algeria, Z)
- Rakan (Saudi Arabia, T)
- Elgolden (Syria, P)
- Zerghamdi (Turkey)
- Aegwynn (Turkey, Z)
- Drager (South Africa, P)
- Static (South Africa, P)
Update Qualifiers EU
It is now possible for European players to sign up for their regional qualifiers. Click the link below to see what qualifier you should sign up for. There is a link to the actual qualifier sign-up page on that page as well, including the dates those qualifiers are to be played.
LINK TO EU QUALIFIERS
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Asia-Pacific includes Korea?
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Asia-Pacific does indeed include Korea.
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That's a lot of money.kinda curious who will qualify from the africa qualifier, as i can't even name a single african player since pandatank disappeared
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There's 3 spots for Africa and Middle East and 0 spots for SEA/Australia..?
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On August 05 2016 23:47 oGoZenob wrote:
That's a lot of money.kinda curious who will qualify from the africa qualifier, as i can't even name a single african player since pandatank disappeared
Says also Middle East so a few pros from israel can qualify like Adonminus/Complain from Cascade but yeah other then that gonna be a wierd qualifier xD
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On August 06 2016 00:03 ZerGJunO wrote:
There's 3 spots for Africa and Middle East and 0 spots for SEA/Australia..?
LOL i guess they expect you guys to play vs the koreans ....
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@ZerGJunO: Australia/SEA is included in Asia Pacific.
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On August 06 2016 00:08 Liveon wrote:
@ZerGJunO: Australia/SEA is included in Asia Pacific.
So SEA has to play with Koreans while 3 African/Middle Eastern gets 12 thousand dollars?
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@ZergJunO: Technically correct. Just as in the african qualifier there are sub-regions within the larger regions. Each region gets a certain amount of spots, so it's not like the top 16 in Asia-Pacific will be all Korean.
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Except we know they will be :D
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This event is organised by Alibaba, a Chinese online sale giant (more than ebay+amazon). There's no doubt that they indeed have a LOT of money, and the players will get paid, but don't expect that they know anything about esports. In their website, they even treated "Starcraft 2" and "Legacy of the Void" as two separate games for some time.
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On August 06 2016 00:26 mGGrinehart wrote:
Except we know they will be :D
Likely there will be something like 2 spots for Korea, 1 for Australia, 1 for NZ, 1 for Japan etc... in the Asia-Pacific qualifier.
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Canada8989 Posts
Really happy they have so many national qualifier, those are always great to watch, with some less known player having a chance to show there game.
I hope they will all be on stream!
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On August 06 2016 00:03 ZerGJunO wrote:
There's 3 spots for Africa and Middle East and 0 spots for SEA/Australia..?
To be fair that region needs a big influx of cash a lot more than SEA
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Wow, this looks great!! I wonder how the 8 slots for Europe + CIS will be distributed, like 2 for west, north, east and south or something like that?
...and yeah, great to see some action for Africa + ME, sadly neglected regions!
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3 spots for Africa/middle east?
Pandatank, now's your time to shine!
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Wow, this looks great!! I wonder how the 8 slots for Europe + CIS will be distributed, like 2 for west, north, east and south or something like that?
Lots of national/local-regional qualifiers -> EU finals -> TOP 8 gets slots. Much like WCS 2012.
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On August 06 2016 07:08 Alex007 wrote:Show nested quote +Wow, this looks great!! I wonder how the 8 slots for Europe + CIS will be distributed, like 2 for west, north, east and south or something like that? Lots of national/local-regional qualifiers -> EU finals -> TOP 8 gets slots. Much like WCS 2012.
Excellent! Good to get some national hype going!  gl hf!
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It's clear they have a lot of money for them to not even bother researching the regions and identifying where relevant players reside. I mean, I'm not against supporting those scenes -- I'm sure they need it, but it's really just sort of ridiculous.
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looks too awesome to be true
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On August 06 2016 07:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:
looks too awesome to be true
They said that When SC2 was announced
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OK, I guess $o$ is not afraid of dropping out from GSL anymore 
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lol okay so some random masters 1 player from africa will get a shit ton of money nice.
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A major tourney which makes WCS look small, and which Koreans can participate in? Nice.
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The first place prize alone would make this the 8th biggest SC2 tournament of all time, and whoever wins would be 24th all time for prize money if they started with nothing. Very cool stuff.
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our Chinese overlords are showing their power
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These slots allocation makes 0 sense to me...
Well not expecting it to be good the 1st time to begin with
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Bisutopia19239 Posts
Lan finals? This must be a hoax 
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Hey, just wanted to add my 2 cents.
I love this announcement. Thank you for the massive infusion into the SC2 scene. It was necessary and needed.
I have one concern though: why is this event not a WCS Global event? It's surely got a big enough prize pool to have WCS points on the line. Is it just that you guys didn't want to have to work with the requirements and control that Blizzard wants in order to make your event a WCS global event or was it not something that you guys even thought about while planning?
Only asking because inclusion inside of an existing system always makes the scene stronger. Doing something unique, which this certainly is, but also allowing that unique thing to be done inside of the context of an existing system makes the system bigger and more inclusive as well as giving more press and legitimacy to the unique event.
On August 06 2016 07:39 Blargh wrote:
It's clear they have a lot of money for them to not even bother researching the regions and identifying where relevant players reside. I mean, I'm not against supporting those scenes -- I'm sure they need it, but it's really just sort of ridiculous.
I agree and disagree with you. I think that their intention was to establish something that the SC2 scene, and in eSports in genera, are both lacking currently: regions that are deeper and allow for more player diversity and inclusion, similar to that of the International Olympic Committee.
Say what you want about the IOC, the rules that were set up for the Olympics and the way in which countries and regions compete with one another is incredibly inclusive and allows the greatest number of excellent performers to rise to the top, despite not being from one of the more powerful or prominent regions. It provides a more level playing field for anyone that wants to participate, I feel.
Not to be overly critical of you Blargh, but the impact of what you were saying, from my perspective was "I don't want to see those regions compete, I want to see my favorite regions and players competing, despite the fact that I acknowledge that the regions that don't get attention need the attention." I'm sure that wasn't your intent with what you said, but it sounds like you're playing favorites when this tournament doesn't just want the typical players to come out and play, they want everyone that plays StarCraft to come out of the woodwork and try their best to reach that giant prize pool.
On August 06 2016 10:28 Yiome wrote:
These slots allocation makes 0 sense to me...
Well not expecting it to be good the 1st time to begin with
What doesn't make sense about them? Do you mean that you wouldn't organize the slots that way because you're asserting that some regions perform better than others and as such those regions should be allowed more slots because you want to see more of those players? Or are you saying that it doesn't make logical sense deriving from some other reason?
China, being the host of the tournament gets 1 slot that their players won't have to compete with the rest of Asia-Pacific group in order to get to the main event (there are 15 different regional qualifiers for the regional LAN that has only 1 spot feeding into the main event http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Electronic_Sports_Games_2016/Asia-Pacific/China/Shanghai)
If the other regional qualifiers are as DEEP as the China ones are, there's no way we won't get an absolutely amazing main event. It's not like there are going to be 50 scrubs and 1 good player at the event.
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I'm guessing if they were to make it a WCS event, Koreans wouldn't be allowed. So it's a good thing that it's not a WCS event
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with ImbaTV part of this you know its got to be 100% legit.
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On August 06 2016 12:58 sd_andeh wrote:
I'm guessing if they were to make it a WCS event, Koreans wouldn't be allowed. So it's a good thing that it's not a WCS event
They have the money to make it a WCS Global event (one with Koreans and non-Koreans). I reckon the reason it's not is that the main event is after Blizzcon.
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Austria24417 Posts
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When do Korean qualifiers take place?
Could we watch all qualifiers on Twitch?
Does Russia has a spot?
/excited for SC2
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I foresee hundreds of jewish SC2 players making aliyah to Israel in the near future
...And if not, my diamond ass is going to China.
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@rockdj911
1. Not entirely sure yet, the asia-pacific qualifiers will be run by imbatv while we run NA/Africa/EU.
2. We will try to stream as many quali's as we can, but can't guarantee we stream them all.
3. I think Russia is included in CIS (so Europe-CIS).
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Certainly exciting to see a tournament with such a big prize pool in starcraft! Takes place 39 on the list of the largest esports prize pool tournaments among cs:go and dota 2 tournaments. It's really good to see sc2 see some popularity again!
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On August 06 2016 18:01 RezJ wrote:I foresee hundreds of jewish SC2 players making aliyah to Israel in the near future ...And if not, my diamond ass is going to China.
unfortunately the regional lan finals are in Dubai which i dont think we're allowed to get into .
also the eligible countries list does not mention israel , actually they specifically wrote State of palestine.
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@Complain and other Israeli players:
We decided to move Israel to the European qualifier, so don't worry, you can play.
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I have one concern though: why is this event not a WCS Global event?
This question is too complex to answer it in few words, but just think about rules difference (even the most simple thing: citizenship requirement in WESG vs P1 Visa / Green Card being OK for WCS), Global Grand Finals being played after WCS season is over, and so on. It's not just a question of somebody's wish. If WESG was included into some Blizzard & Valve tournament system, there would be a lot of additional headache for organizers I feel.
However, I'm not saying that WESG being part of WCS system is impossible in future. We'll see.
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Sort of replacement of WCG?
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cool tournament though im pissed anz/sea is with korea. if korea knows about this tournament no way we can get a spot.
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On August 06 2016 22:13 A_Scarecrow wrote:
cool tournament though im pissed anz/sea is with korea. if korea knows about this tournament no way we can get a spot.
It's nice seeing players from this region making it to tourneys. But really i'd rather see anther Korean than someone from here getting 3-0'd in the first round.
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On August 06 2016 19:52 Alex007 wrote:This question is too complex to answer it in few words, but just think about rules difference (even the most simple thing: citizenship requirement in WESG vs P1 Visa / Green Card being OK for WCS), Global Grand Finals being played after WCS season is over, and so on. It's not just a question of somebody's wish. If WESG was included into some Blizzard & Valve tournament system, there would be a lot of additional headache for organizers I feel. However, I'm not saying that WESG being part of WCS system is impossible in future. We'll see.
I don't know if you could tell by my post but I'm not one for wanting fewer words, generally. Thanks for your explanation it gave me exactly the answer that I was looking for.
In so far as the future of WESG: do you guys have any inkling of what kind of success you need in order to have a repeat of this event next year? If there's anything that I can do to contribute to this events success and to get it to happen again in the future, I'd love to lend a hand.
On August 06 2016 22:13 A_Scarecrow wrote:
cool tournament though im pissed anz/sea is with korea. if korea knows about this tournament no way we can get a spot.
Looking at the qualifiers for China alone, it appears as though there will be a good number of segregated regional qualifiers before the regional LAN which is where the final spots are determined. It's likely there will be SEA/ANZ qualifiers which seed directly into the regional LAN, just like the runner up from the Chinese Regional LAN get's placed into the Asia-Pacific regional. The details are still coming out for this, don't let the "OMG KOREANS ARE GODS" mentality stop you from cheering on your favorite player/nation.
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Would have been better to see a bigger price split than just top 3 to support a larger amount of progamers. With that amount of prizepool for Qualifiers there should be price for top 8 atleast - and verry atleast top 4.
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Why here is only 3 pages? Why so few exited...?! I mean........ We got one MORE BIG tournament this year! Isn't that exciting, guys?...
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On August 06 2016 19:14 Complain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 18:01 RezJ wrote:I foresee hundreds of jewish SC2 players making aliyah to Israel in the near future ...And if not, my diamond ass is going to China. unfortunately the regional lan finals are in Dubai which i dont think we're allowed to get into . also the eligible countries list does not mention israel , actually they specifically wrote State of palestine.
Perhaps you're in Europe?
edit I'm dumb that literally was in the post next to yours
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On August 06 2016 20:12 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Sort of replacement of WCG?
that's exactly first thing that popped in my head when I saw prizepool
not buying it so far...if it was WCS global event then I'd trust the organizers but for now I'll stay sceptical.
We saw way too many of scetchy tournaments to just jump on a bandwagon.
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Yeah, ever since WCG died we saw so many tournaments similiar to it. WECG, WESG, WCA, WEC, WPC. It's very weird.
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On August 07 2016 01:55 rockdj911 wrote:
Why here is only 3 pages? Why so few exited...?! I mean........ We got one MORE BIG tournament this year! Isn't that exciting, guys?...
I'm super excited. Its even going to have the Korean vs Foreigner competition everyone has been craving so much
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why the fuck does Africa and Middle East get 3/24 spots when their scene is close to non existent?
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On August 07 2016 06:00 GreenMash wrote:
why the fuck does Africa and Middle East get 3/24 spots when their scene is close to non existent?
Probably a lack of understanding of the demographics of esports professionals. If you just look at population alone there's about 1.5 billion people living in those regions.
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poor SoS - only 2nd place for him this time.
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On August 07 2016 06:00 GreenMash wrote:
why the fuck does Africa and Middle East get 3/24 spots when their scene is close to non existent?
Maybe because their scene is underdeveloped it is all the more important to provide some opportunities, no? Long overdue if you ask me.
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On August 07 2016 01:55 rockdj911 wrote:
Why here is only 3 pages? Why so few exited...?! I mean........ We got one MORE BIG tournament this year! Isn't that exciting, guys?...
Chinese tournaments never get the viewership or interest they deserve. Just look at NSL: huge prizepool, top players, barely over 2k viewers on English stream.
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To be fair, the production and commentary quality isn't as high as the big Korean and international tournaments.
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On August 07 2016 07:20 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2016 01:55 rockdj911 wrote:
Why here is only 3 pages? Why so few exited...?! I mean........ We got one MORE BIG tournament this year! Isn't that exciting, guys?... Chinese tournaments never get the viewership or interest they deserve. Just look at NSL: huge prizepool, top players, barely over 2k viewers on English stream.
NSL is pretty poorly advertised, and casted by a community caster at a very bad time for NA viewers. It's sad that the viewership is low but Chinese tournaments aren't really concerned with non-Chinese viewership.
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that is SO MUCH MONEY, jesus, I hope Maru goes far in this!
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On August 07 2016 06:00 GreenMash wrote:
why the fuck does Africa and Middle East get 3/24 spots when their scene is close to non existent?
Same reason why WCS Global Finals reserves 8 spots for foreigners, I guess.
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well but is in a good time for european community which is more important for viewer then NA
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Reminds me of the old sc2 world Championship system.
And the price money is really impressiv
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It feels like WCG is back, just when WCS has been disappointing to me so far this year. I'm very happy but it feels so unreal :o
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On August 07 2016 00:08 Lillekanin wrote:
Would have been better to see a bigger price split than just top 3 to support a larger amount of progamers. With that amount of prizepool for Qualifiers there should be price for top 8 atleast - and verry atleast top 4.
standard asian prizepool distribution
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On August 08 2016 18:13 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2016 00:08 Lillekanin wrote:
Would have been better to see a bigger price split than just top 3 to support a larger amount of progamers. With that amount of prizepool for Qualifiers there should be price for top 8 atleast - and verry atleast top 4. standard asian prizepool distribution
I might not understand the argument you both are making, but there is a prize for the top8 right?
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Looking forward to this a lot! Will try to promote it to as many Dutch players as I can reach.
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One thing that makes me wonder is whether this was known to the players in the Africa region before the announcement here - because if not, it's not very nice to just give them a week's notice to sign up for the possible biggest thing they have had ever a real chance to compete in, which then includes the prospect of travelling to Dubai etc... I really wish that in general tournaments started announcing themselves on longer notices, even with the risk of having the announcement not that bombastic and all at once.
Is it also clear how many Koreans will be in this? If there are 6 spots for the whole region, it's either 6 Koreans and bad luck for everyone who happens to be in the same region, or less than 6 Koreans. In either case, the potential for Korean-Western confrontation is quite diminished both by the small amount of Koreans and by the presence of players from irrelevant regions. The concept of "world games" simply doesn't work well with how the good players are geographically distributed.
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Take a look at our Africa & Middle East regions split. If you still have questions about certain countries being not involved in this region, please let us know.
+ Show Spoiler +
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On August 09 2016 04:03 opisska wrote:
One thing that makes me wonder is whether this was known to the players in the Africa region before the announcement here - because if not, it's not very nice to just give them a week's notice to sign up for the possible biggest thing they have had ever a real chance to compete in, which then includes the prospect of travelling to Dubai etc... I really wish that in general tournaments started announcing themselves on longer notices, even with the risk of having the announcement not that bombastic and all at once.
Is it also clear how many Koreans will be in this? If there are 6 spots for the whole region, it's either 6 Koreans and bad luck for everyone who happens to be in the same region, or less than 6 Koreans. In either case, the potential for Korean-Western confrontation is quite diminished both by the small amount of Koreans and by the presence of players from irrelevant regions. The concept of "world games" simply doesn't work well with how the good players are geographically distributed.
Nah a weeks notice is fine
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HYPE
Hope there will be more than 2 koreans
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Italy12246 Posts
Holy shit that is a ridicolous amount of money for a Starcraft tournament o.O
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I signed up but honestly didn't understand anything about the tournament system
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I signed up but honestly didn't understand anything about the tournament system
You're TOP2 in your regional qualifier - you advance to Dubai, UAE Regional LAN finals
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This tournament has more yuan than sense.
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lol Stephano tried to sign up as tunisian
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So Stephano is indeed playing. Will be there any stream for this qualifier?
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On August 14 2016 21:23 HsDLTitich wrote:
So Stephano is indeed playing. Will be there any stream for this qualifier?
Pengwin IIRC.
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Canada8989 Posts
On August 14 2016 21:23 HsDLTitich wrote:
So Stephano is indeed playing. Will be there any stream for this qualifier?
That suck...
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I updated the main post with the qualified players for Dubai. More information about the broadcast schedule and brackets will follow soon.
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I don't get it so only 2 koreans will be able to enter it? That seems a bit inbalanced seeing how the vast majoirty of the glboal SC2 scene is in Korea.
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If someone wins both blizzcon and WESG they get £400,000, holy shiz theyd be the highest paid sc2 player ever most likely
lookin at you sOs -_-
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Australia18228 Posts
I hope to see good games from this upcoming Tunisian Zerg
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Anyone know the reason why Snute forfeited his invitation for the Europe qualifier?
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On August 15 2016 11:35 Inflicted wrote:
I hope to see good games from this upcoming Tunisian Zerg
Does he actually have citizenship, or is he just trolling?
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On August 17 2016 03:30 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2016 11:35 Inflicted wrote:
I hope to see good games from this upcoming Tunisian Zerg Does he actually have citizenship, or is he just trolling?
He has.
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On August 17 2016 03:31 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2016 03:30 opisska wrote:On August 15 2016 11:35 Inflicted wrote:
I hope to see good games from this upcoming Tunisian Zerg Does he actually have citizenship, or is he just trolling? He has.
Cool
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I've got a question. Liquidpedia says winner of Chinese Qualifier advances to main tourney while 2nd advances to the Asian Pacific Qualifier. My question is does 1st in the Chinese Qualifier go to the Asian Pacific Qualifier even though they're already qualified for the main event? Wondering as the Asian Pacific Qualifier gives out a fair chunk of change.
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Fascinating, and hard to understand as well.
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I have updated the OP with a sign-up link to the EU qualifiers. You can find which region you belong to and when your qualifier will be there as well. Good luck to all EU players!
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That looks great! Can't wait to see how this unfolds!
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Finally Vatican players are allowed in a tournament!
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On August 20 2016 19:39 HsDLTitich wrote:
Finally Vatican players are allowed in a tournament!
Yeah, it will be interesting to see what the Holy See crusaders can do now that they are eligible to compete.
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This tournament is sick... You have the largest price pool in SC2 history, and I hope you will also have the highest number of participants. Will you publish that number when all sign-ups are finished?
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Will you publish that number when all sign-ups are finished?
Yeah we'll most probably have some sort of press-release telling those numbers in all four titles.
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What do they gain by putting so much money into SC2? :o
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Stephano dude, they got Stephano. Worth it.
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totally missed the announcement for this tournament. Looks sick
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On October 05 2016 18:13 aLt)nirvana wrote:
the entries in each country sadly reflects the competitive state of sc2.
and gratz to pilipili and kajind who won just by joining!
No prize pool, sadly :D
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Italy3392 Posts
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Do we know when the main event takes place exactly?
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Looks like the dates have been updated on the liquipedia page for the start dates. Jan12-15 for when the tournament is taking place. I hope there is more coverage for this then there has been. The SC2 scene could really benefit from a major tournament like this, but I'm afraid that its going to be a flop in terms of viewership outside of China.
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On November 24 2016 03:38 Thomasmarkle wrote:Looks like the dates have been updated on the liquipedia page for the start dates. Jan12-15 for when the tournament is taking place. I hope there is more coverage for this then there has been. The SC2 scene could really benefit from a major tournament like this, but I'm afraid that its going to be a flop in terms of viewership outside of China.
It should pull the same kinda numbers as the other big SC2 cups on twitch. But it doesn't help only a handful of popular players are in it
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As this is getting closer, has there been any more announcements on this?
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On December 03 2016 03:59 Thomasmarkle wrote:
As this is getting closer, has there been any more announcements on this?
One thing I noticed is that the date for the main event used to be a vague December 2016 but it seems it's been pushed back to Jan 12th-15th 2017. (source: Liquipedia)
Wonder why that is...
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On December 03 2016 05:46 207aicila wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 03:59 Thomasmarkle wrote:
As this is getting closer, has there been any more announcements on this? One thing I noticed is that the date for the main event used to be a vague December 2016 but it seems it's been pushed back to Jan 12th-15th 2017. (source: Liquipedia) Wonder why that is...
Yeah, one would think a tournament with such a prize pool would be a little better organized...
How come there was no official announcement?
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On December 03 2016 05:46 207aicila wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 03:59 Thomasmarkle wrote:
As this is getting closer, has there been any more announcements on this? One thing I noticed is that the date for the main event used to be a vague December 2016 but it seems it's been pushed back to Jan 12th-15th 2017. (source: Liquipedia) Wonder why that is...
The source for the date is a post by Scarlett on reddit by the way. I assume they pushed from December to January because they couldn't find a time slot they liked with WCA, IEM and Christmas/New Year all coming up.
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China6329 Posts
Can confirm the finals date on LP is correct.
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On December 03 2016 06:59 Majick wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 05:46 207aicila wrote:On December 03 2016 03:59 Thomasmarkle wrote:
As this is getting closer, has there been any more announcements on this? One thing I noticed is that the date for the main event used to be a vague December 2016 but it seems it's been pushed back to Jan 12th-15th 2017. (source: Liquipedia) Wonder why that is... Yeah, one would think a tournament with such a prize pool would be a little better organized... How come there was no official announcement?
I would assume they had no idea how qualifiers would play out so December was tentative and they now have an exact date.
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China6329 Posts
Finals has been announced to be hosted at Changzhou, Olympics Sports Center, January 12th - 15th.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6WuUNxf.png)
Pretty sweet venue and sweet city as well.
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Wow! Thats amazing news! I'm really hoping this goes over well. Seems like a really positive image and opportunity for eSports in general
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Canada8989 Posts
That's a hell of a stadium!
It should be a great event, I hope the production quality is going to be on part with their ambition.
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Wow! keep these tourneys coming Alisports!!
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Mexico674 Posts
Groups have been announced
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Mexico674 Posts
Poll: Group of Death?Group B (24) 56% Group C (8) 19% Group A (6) 14% Group D (5) 12% 43 total votes Your vote: Group of Death? (Vote): Group A
(Vote): Group B
(Vote): Group C
(Vote): Group D
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On December 26 2016 14:42 DARKING wrote:Groups have been announced
any more info on format? just a round robin group stage?
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no offence but this groups are patethic and poorly made 0 seeding went into this. how my group can have top 2 europe top 3 na and top 1 china ? lol
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On December 26 2016 15:11 Major wrote:
no offence but this groups are patethic and poorly made 0 seeding went into this. how my group can have top 2 europe top 3 na and top 1 china ? lol
i don't think anyone will be offended by you saying that lol. pretty obvious there was no seeding when group A is that much weaker than the others
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Australia18228 Posts
Looks like they seeded the winner of each region into separate groups and randomised the rest
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On December 26 2016 14:55 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:any more info on format? just a round robin group stage?
Some people say round robin is likely in group stage, winner of each group will get into Ro8 directly, runner-up of the group will fight with a 3rd place from other group to get Ro8 spot.
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Group B is interesting, Group A is too weak.
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Italy3392 Posts
...Group B will be intense...
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Let's hope this seeding does not bode ill for the overall quality of the tournament. Random seeding is quite old fashioned in esports. Hope they know what they are doing in other aspects of the event.
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Groups are far from equal, A obviously the weakest and B/D probably the hardest
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jesus these groups...
don't know if I should laugh or cry - that Group A is ridiculous
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
yeah group A is definitely the easiest.
But you guys are overrating group D and underrating C.
C is far stronger than D despite having no korean.
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Funny that they use the olympic flag for Rex and still cant stand the RoC flag.
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On December 26 2016 20:05 CruiseR wrote:
yeah group A is definitely the easiest.
But you guys are overrating group D and underrating C.
C is far stronger than D despite having no korean.
C has way more depth than D for sure. In D, assuming 3 players advance, TY, ShoWTimE and Kelazhur are the big favorites. While in C you can probably pick favorites too, I think any combination of Scarlett/iAsonu/Neeb/Major/Elazer taking the top spots is possible.
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lol after winning in the welfare region, Stephano gets the welfare group
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Haha stephano surely is happy now :D And this is why we need seeding, even bad seeding is better than this.
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On December 26 2016 22:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Haha stephano surely is happy now :D And this is why we need seeding, even bad seeding is better than this.
Objection, your honor. Bad seeding wouldn't have made me laugh this much.
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On December 26 2016 23:00 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2016 22:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Haha stephano surely is happy now :D And this is why we need seeding, even bad seeding is better than this. Objection, your honor. Bad seeding wouldn't have made me laugh this much.
I am sure if we wanna laugh we can get that somewhere else though :D
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Welp. There will be blood. :D
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Well, lets see it this way:
Without groups of death, you could skip the group stage completly, because it was just clear who gets out and who not.
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On December 27 2016 00:32 Clonester wrote:
Well, lets see it this way:
Without groups of death, you could skip the group stage completly, because it was just clear who gets out and who not.
so obviously the solution is to have not the better players advance to keep it exciting?
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On December 27 2016 00:44 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 00:32 Clonester wrote:
Well, lets see it this way:
Without groups of death, you could skip the group stage completly, because it was just clear who gets out and who not. so obviously the solution is to have not the better players advance to keep it exciting?
As we only lose 3 better players in the complete groupstage (1 in Group B, 2 in Group C), I can accept that.
Better players dont have the universal right to get easy groups, if they want to win, they have to be able to beat everyone anyway.
The playoffs wount be worse when, lets say, iA, Major and Harstem get out earlier. There would be still Namshar, XY, Stephano/DeMuslim, Nerchio, Maru, Marinelord, Scarlett, Neeb, Elazer, TY, Showtime and Jim/Kelazhur, that is still a pretty decent lineup for the nationality format.
You can now swap, lets say, Stephano/Demuslim with Harstem or Jim/Kelazhur with iAsonu/MajOr, but the overall quality of the playoffs wouldnt be harmed by that, while the quality of the groupstage games gets much bigger with how Group B and C rolled out.
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I mean you can look at it two ways. Either you think everyone is equal and no matter what results you had in the past you have to qualify again and get no special seeding.
Or you think that you can truly say that some players are better and you wanna have a higher chance of having these players in the later rounds of the tournament because it produces better games later on.
While the first solution might be more fair technically it's imo flawed because we have the evidence that in fact not everybody is equal skill wise and having two S class players meet early in a tournament is extremely unfair to those guys (Zest vs Maru comes to mind)
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On December 26 2016 14:55 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:any more info on format? just a round robin group stage?
I have taken a look at their official chinese website and there is currently no information on how the group matches will play out. I will keep a daily look out and will update when their website is updated.
http://www.wesg.com/grandfinal#
Group Stage will be from 12-13th Jan and Knock out format from 14 - 15th Jan 2017.
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if you're curious how the seeding exactly works. They did it the exact same for other games.
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Group A looks like a WCG group. Group B looks like a WCS group.
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Hmmm I guess group B in the GOD. Although Nerch/Maru/MLord are the favourates for sure. Beasty and Harstem can caused upsets, but I guess it will come down to who has this patch on lock.
Groups C gonna be close I guess. I can see scarlett/Elazer getting out dunno about the 3rd player. There isn't even PvP potential for me to favour Neeb in
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Do we know anything about the actual cup format? Is it gonna be single elim for the whole thing?
(pray Maru and TY dont meet in quater finals or similar)
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On December 27 2016 03:51 Fango wrote:
Do we know anything about the actual cup format? Is it gonna be single elim for the whole thing?
(pray Maru and TY dont meet in quater finals or similar)
If each of them ends first in his group they cannot meet untill the semis.
3 out of each group go on, the first straight to the quarter finals, the other 2 will play for a spot in the quarter final with others who ends 2nd and 3rd.
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On December 27 2016 02:02 Boucot wrote:
Group A looks like a WCG group. Group B looks like a WCS group.
Hahaha ouch.
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Group B the group of death? It looks most straightforward with Maru, Nerchio and Marinlord advancing. Harstem and Beasty could advance from group A, they would have huge problems in C and D.. In group C anything can happen, even Neeb could drop out. However most likely Neeb, Elazer and Major/Scarlett will advance.Group D - TY, Showtime and Kelazhur are clear favorites. Group A - It would be hard to create a weaker group on purpose, Stephano, Namshar and DeMuslim should take it, if they don't drink too much ;-)
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On December 26 2016 14:42 DARKING wrote:Poll: Group of Death?Group B (24) 56% Group C (8) 19% Group A (6) 14% Group D (5) 12% 43 total votes Your vote: Group of Death? (Vote): Group A
(Vote): Group B
(Vote): Group C
(Vote): Group D
lmao who voted A
Anyway props for a big roundrobin groupstage, interested in the results for sure
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On December 27 2016 07:07 Kafka777 wrote:
Group B the group of death? It looks most straightforward with Maru, Nerchio and Marinlord advancing. Harstem and Beasty could advance from group A, they would have huge problems in C and D.. In group C anything can happen, even Neeb could drop out. However most likely Neeb, Elazer and Major/Scarlett will advance.Group D - TY, Showtime and Kelazhur are clear favorites. Group A - It would be hard to create a weaker group on purpose, Stephano, Namshar and DeMuslim should take it, if they don't drink too much ;-)
I wouldn't say Harstem doesn't have a shoot there. He beats Uthermal quite often, and I guess with Uthermal there in Harstems place there is no 3 players you can say will advance for sure (apart for Maru, and may be Nerchio has an edge).
So its either Uthermals TvP isn't that strong, or Harstems PvT is quite strong. With 3 Terrans there Harstem has a fair chance. Maru advances probably Nerchio as well, but I don't know if its Marinlord or Harstem. Beasty can surprise us, but I don't think he will advance (although Demuslim advanced instead of Snute in the qualifier, so who knows).
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I wouldn't say Harstem doesn't have a shoot there. He beats Uthermal quite often, and I guess with Uthermal there in Harstems place there is no 3 players you can say will advance for sure (apart for Maru, and may be Nerchio has an edge).
So its either Uthermals TvP isn't that strong, or Harstems PvT is quite strong. With 3 Terrans there Harstem has a fair chance. Maru advances probably Nerchio as well, but I don't know if its Marinlord or Harstem. Beasty can surprise us, but I don't think he will advance (although Demuslim advanced instead of Snute in the qualifier, so who knows).
Harstem is good, I just do not think he has a chance in this configuration. Marinlord plays different PvT and I would say T has a balance advantage right now. Especially if new map pool will be in progress and David Kim does not pull his things together.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
On December 27 2016 11:54 Side1 wrote:
Date Start?
12th January - 15th January
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*New Info*
According to their updated schedule, there are supposed to be 15 games in each group to be played over two days. Can anybody figure out the format for that??
knock out stage will start from quarter finals so top 2 from each group will progress.
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Italy3392 Posts
On December 27 2016 21:23 Kaizor wrote:
*New Info*
According to their updated schedule, there are supposed to be 15 games in each group to be played over two days. Can anybody figure out the format for that??
knock out stage will start from quarter finals so top 2 from each group will progress.
15 games in each group, for groups of 6 players, mean Round Robin format...
...since the groups are of 6 players I would have preferred the "four 1st places directly in the Quarters and 2nd and 3rd places battle for the 4 remaining spots" kind of bracket... :/
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On December 27 2016 22:03 CynicalDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 21:23 Kaizor wrote:
*New Info*
According to their updated schedule, there are supposed to be 15 games in each group to be played over two days. Can anybody figure out the format for that??
knock out stage will start from quarter finals so top 2 from each group will progress. 15 games in each group, for groups of 6 players, mean Round Robin format... ...since the groups are of 6 players I would have preferred the "four 1st places directly in the Quarters and 2nd and 3rd places battle for the 4 remaining spots" kind of bracket... :/
yup round robin for sure but how?? even if they play everyone twice that will be ten games. sorry long day at work, brain isn't functioning well.
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Italy3392 Posts
On December 27 2016 23:09 Kaizor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 22:03 CynicalDeath wrote:On December 27 2016 21:23 Kaizor wrote:
*New Info*
According to their updated schedule, there are supposed to be 15 games in each group to be played over two days. Can anybody figure out the format for that??
knock out stage will start from quarter finals so top 2 from each group will progress. 15 games in each group, for groups of 6 players, mean Round Robin format... ...since the groups are of 6 players I would have preferred the "four 1st places directly in the Quarters and 2nd and 3rd places battle for the 4 remaining spots" kind of bracket... :/ yup round robin for sure but how?? even if they play everyone twice that will be ten games. sorry long day at work, brain isn't functioning well.
...take for example group A:
Stephano will play with the 5 players below him (5).
Drager will play with the 4 players below him (not with Stephano, they "already played" - meaning their match is already counted on the Stephano's one) (4)
Namshar will play with the 3 players below him (not with Stephano and Drager, they "already played") (3)
DeMusliM will play with the 2 players below him (not with players above him) (2)
XY will play with Erik (the only player he hasn't "already played") (1)
...in total they are 15 games...
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I'm so pumped for this tournament I actually took 3 days off work just too see EVERYTHING.
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China6329 Posts
On December 27 2016 23:09 Kaizor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 22:03 CynicalDeath wrote:On December 27 2016 21:23 Kaizor wrote:
*New Info*
According to their updated schedule, there are supposed to be 15 games in each group to be played over two days. Can anybody figure out the format for that??
knock out stage will start from quarter finals so top 2 from each group will progress. 15 games in each group, for groups of 6 players, mean Round Robin format... ...since the groups are of 6 players I would have preferred the "four 1st places directly in the Quarters and 2nd and 3rd places battle for the 4 remaining spots" kind of bracket... :/ yup round robin for sure but how?? even if they play everyone twice that will be ten games. sorry long day at work, brain isn't functioning well.
2 sample combination out of 6, 6×5/2 = 15.
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On December 27 2016 21:23 Kaizor wrote:
*New Info*
According to their updated schedule, there are supposed to be 15 games in each group to be played over two days. Can anybody figure out the format for that??
knock out stage will start from quarter finals so top 2 from each group will progress.
Hi,
On their website, playoff stage is like this, I suppose each group has 3 spots for playoff.
http://www.wesg.com/grandfinal/schedule?game=sc&day=3
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On December 28 2016 04:37 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 23:09 Kaizor wrote:On December 27 2016 22:03 CynicalDeath wrote:On December 27 2016 21:23 Kaizor wrote:
*New Info*
According to their updated schedule, there are supposed to be 15 games in each group to be played over two days. Can anybody figure out the format for that??
knock out stage will start from quarter finals so top 2 from each group will progress. 15 games in each group, for groups of 6 players, mean Round Robin format... ...since the groups are of 6 players I would have preferred the "four 1st places directly in the Quarters and 2nd and 3rd places battle for the 4 remaining spots" kind of bracket... :/ yup round robin for sure but how?? even if they play everyone twice that will be ten games. sorry long day at work, brain isn't functioning well. 2 sample combination out of 6, 6×5/2 = 15.
yep, that is how mathematics works.
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China6329 Posts
On December 29 2016 11:43 sigmichael wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2016 21:23 Kaizor wrote:
*New Info*
According to their updated schedule, there are supposed to be 15 games in each group to be played over two days. Can anybody figure out the format for that??
knock out stage will start from quarter finals so top 2 from each group will progress. Hi, On their website, playoff stage is like this, I suppose each group has 3 spots for playoff. http://www.wesg.com/grandfinal/schedule?game=sc&day=3
4 groups, 8 playoffs spots, so top 2 advance, not 3.
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On December 29 2016 15:59 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 11:43 sigmichael wrote:On December 27 2016 21:23 Kaizor wrote:
*New Info*
According to their updated schedule, there are supposed to be 15 games in each group to be played over two days. Can anybody figure out the format for that??
knock out stage will start from quarter finals so top 2 from each group will progress. Hi, On their website, playoff stage is like this, I suppose each group has 3 spots for playoff. http://www.wesg.com/grandfinal/schedule?game=sc&day=3 4 groups, 8 playoffs spots, so top 2 advance, not 3.
3 people have to advance. The bracket starts with 8 players and in the next round still has 8 players.
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China6329 Posts
On December 29 2016 17:59 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 15:59 digmouse wrote:On December 29 2016 11:43 sigmichael wrote:On December 27 2016 21:23 Kaizor wrote:
*New Info*
According to their updated schedule, there are supposed to be 15 games in each group to be played over two days. Can anybody figure out the format for that??
knock out stage will start from quarter finals so top 2 from each group will progress. Hi, On their website, playoff stage is like this, I suppose each group has 3 spots for playoff. http://www.wesg.com/grandfinal/schedule?game=sc&day=3 4 groups, 8 playoffs spots, so top 2 advance, not 3. 3 people have to advance. The bracket starts with 8 players and in the next round still has 8 players.
Hm just found out it is a 12 man bracket, I guess the 4 group winners are seeded into RO8, 2nd and 3rd place finishers are put into Ro12.
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Italy3392 Posts
...official schedule looks weird, with no info on when Ro12 matches will be played and quarterfinals and semis played all at the same time (13:00 for qf and 15:00 for sf)... 
EDIT: moreover, groups stage matches will be played 3 by 3 at the same time... I hope at least 2 of them will be streamed or it would really be a pity...
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About $100k was given away in the regional events. Maybe that's where it went
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On January 09 2017 08:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:About $100k was given away in the regional events. Maybe that's where it went
Original announcement from the OP has the prize money for the main event and qualifiers listed separately.
Although the original Hearthstone prize pool is exactly what it shows for SC2 on the site and the other way around. Maybe whoever is in charge of the site messed up and accidentally switched the numbers?
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On January 09 2017 08:35 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 08:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:About $100k was given away in the regional events. Maybe that's where it went Original announcement from the OP has the prize money for the main event and qualifiers listed separately. Although the original Hearthstone prize pool is exactly what it shows for SC2 on the site and the other way around. Maybe whoever is in charge of the site messed up and accidentally switched the numbers?
Hopefully, would be sad if TY only wins 150k 
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TY will win $200k and $100 for Maru. I call it first.
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On January 09 2017 08:35 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 08:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:About $100k was given away in the regional events. Maybe that's where it went Original announcement from the OP has the prize money for the main event and qualifiers listed separately. Although the original Hearthstone prize pool is exactly what it shows for SC2 on the site and the other way around. Maybe whoever is in charge of the site messed up and accidentally switched the numbers?
You're right, in the latest announcement, the prize pool for SC2 and Hearthstone are switched around as compared to the original announcement.
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Italy3392 Posts
...aaand they switched back again to 400k... lol
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On January 10 2017 17:06 CynicalDeath wrote:
...aaand they switched back again to 400k... lol
Good :D Would have been pretty sad^^
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Now that all's right with the prize pool again  , will there be an English stream for the upcoming matches?
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This is what happens when you don't check your website, someone puts something in the wrong place and everything is a mess.
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