• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:51
CEST 07:51
KST 14:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Rollback Netcode in Brood War725.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202621Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)78
StarCraft 2
General
ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development 5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Ziemie's Starcraft 1 Prequel Campaign Mineral Boosting (2 workers/patch)
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal A [ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12072 users

[WCS] Spring Championships 2016 - Page 87

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 85 86 87 88 89 259 Next
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 14 2016 19:28 GMT
#1721
i'm fine with "xy" being called "shy"
maru lover forever
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 14 2016 19:28 GMT
#1722
On May 15 2016 04:27 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 04:27 Ej_ wrote:
someone tell Elazer that roach/ravager/BL requires you to hit a timing

hard to hit a timing when terran is constantly counterattacking

he was 50 supply up at one point and then just walked back
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
May 14 2016 19:29 GMT
#1723
I missed Has vs Happy, was it any good?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 14 2016 19:30 GMT
#1724
On May 15 2016 04:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I missed Has vs Happy, was it any good?

Best series of the tournament IMHO.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
May 14 2016 19:30 GMT
#1725
On May 15 2016 04:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I missed Has vs Happy, was it any good?

oh you poor thing
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
May 14 2016 19:30 GMT
#1726
So, I haven't watched any games since PtiDrogo won DH, how is the quality of games those days? Is the new WCS any good? What about Korea?

Would be super-glad if someone is willing to do a super quick state-of-the-game
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
May 14 2016 19:30 GMT
#1727
On May 15 2016 04:30 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 04:29 BaneRiders wrote:
I missed Has vs Happy, was it any good?

Best series of the tournament IMHO.


Cool, gotta watch them later then.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16102 Posts
May 14 2016 19:30 GMT
#1728
did elazer have 3 lairs in production at the end?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 14 2016 19:31 GMT
#1729
On May 15 2016 04:30 VengefulTree wrote:
So, I haven't watched any games since PtiDrogo won DH, how is the quality of games those days? Is the new WCS any good? What about Korea?

Would be super-glad if someone is willing to do a super quick state-of-the-game

foreigner games are awful compared to the Korean circuit, surprising absolutely nobody
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 14 2016 19:32 GMT
#1730
Ruins of Endion is definitely a Terran map in TvZ.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
genghiswolve
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany101 Posts
May 14 2016 19:33 GMT
#1731
On May 15 2016 04:30 VengefulTree wrote:
So, I haven't watched any games since PtiDrogo won DH, how is the quality of games those days? Is the new WCS any good? What about Korea?

Would be super-glad if someone is willing to do a super quick state-of-the-game


Well quality skilll wise is pretty low compared to KR (especially atm. I feel with a lot of players slumping/missing), but at least d1 has been entertaining as F.
Also NA has actually good player in Neeb.
Also IMO (and I guess many disagree) Snute is actually good, and maybe only one who is.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 14 2016 19:34 GMT
#1732
On May 15 2016 04:31 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 04:30 VengefulTree wrote:
So, I haven't watched any games since PtiDrogo won DH, how is the quality of games those days? Is the new WCS any good? What about Korea?

Would be super-glad if someone is willing to do a super quick state-of-the-game

foreigner games are awful compared to the Korean circuit, surprising absolutely nobody

Just watch game 5/6 of polt v strange.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
May 14 2016 19:34 GMT
#1733
On May 15 2016 04:31 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 04:30 VengefulTree wrote:
So, I haven't watched any games since PtiDrogo won DH, how is the quality of games those days? Is the new WCS any good? What about Korea?

Would be super-glad if someone is willing to do a super quick state-of-the-game

foreigner games are awful compared to the Korean circuit, surprising absolutely nobody


Not too suprising indeed, and how would you rate the 'competitive viewing experience' aka quality of games in Lotv compaired to Hots?
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
May 14 2016 19:35 GMT
#1734
On May 15 2016 04:33 genghiswolve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 04:30 VengefulTree wrote:
So, I haven't watched any games since PtiDrogo won DH, how is the quality of games those days? Is the new WCS any good? What about Korea?

Would be super-glad if someone is willing to do a super quick state-of-the-game


Well quality skilll wise is pretty low compared to KR (especially atm. I feel with a lot of players slumping/missing), but at least d1 has been entertaining as F.
Also NA has actually good player in Neeb.
Also IMO (and I guess many disagree) Snute is actually good, and maybe only one who is.

generally I have viewed snute as the only player right now who can consistently beat top level Koreans, but conversely he gets rekt by foreigners
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 14 2016 19:36 GMT
#1735
On May 15 2016 04:34 VengefulTree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 04:31 Ej_ wrote:
On May 15 2016 04:30 VengefulTree wrote:
So, I haven't watched any games since PtiDrogo won DH, how is the quality of games those days? Is the new WCS any good? What about Korea?

Would be super-glad if someone is willing to do a super quick state-of-the-game

foreigner games are awful compared to the Korean circuit, surprising absolutely nobody


Not too suprising indeed, and how would you rate the 'competitive viewing experience' aka quality of games in Lotv compaired to Hots?

PvT improved, ZvP is around the same, TvZ is a lot worse. ZvZ is better in mid-game, but early game is made of BO wins. PvP is worse a bit, TvT about the same.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
genghiswolve
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany101 Posts
May 14 2016 19:36 GMT
#1736
On May 15 2016 04:34 VengefulTree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 04:31 Ej_ wrote:
On May 15 2016 04:30 VengefulTree wrote:
So, I haven't watched any games since PtiDrogo won DH, how is the quality of games those days? Is the new WCS any good? What about Korea?

Would be super-glad if someone is willing to do a super quick state-of-the-game

foreigner games are awful compared to the Korean circuit, surprising absolutely nobody


Not too suprising indeed, and how would you rate the 'competitive viewing experience' aka quality of games in Lotv compaired to Hots?


More action and diverstiy build wise makes for more mistakes (even in kr and especially for foreigners) but way more entertaining and close games, series, etc. And balance is pretty good and interesting (zvz watchable, pvp nice, which previously were pretty cancer IMO).

Also top top kor now really impresses even more.,
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
May 14 2016 19:36 GMT
#1737
On May 15 2016 04:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 04:31 Ej_ wrote:
On May 15 2016 04:30 VengefulTree wrote:
So, I haven't watched any games since PtiDrogo won DH, how is the quality of games those days? Is the new WCS any good? What about Korea?

Would be super-glad if someone is willing to do a super quick state-of-the-game

foreigner games are awful compared to the Korean circuit, surprising absolutely nobody

Just watch game 5/6 of polt v strange.


Saying game 5/6 spoils the ending though
Liquipedia"Expert"
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
May 14 2016 19:37 GMT
#1738
On May 15 2016 04:34 VengefulTree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 04:31 Ej_ wrote:
On May 15 2016 04:30 VengefulTree wrote:
So, I haven't watched any games since PtiDrogo won DH, how is the quality of games those days? Is the new WCS any good? What about Korea?

Would be super-glad if someone is willing to do a super quick state-of-the-game

foreigner games are awful compared to the Korean circuit, surprising absolutely nobody


Not too suprising indeed, and how would you rate the 'competitive viewing experience' aka quality of games in Lotv compaired to Hots?


It seems a lot better to me, protoss is a lot more fun and there is no more swarm host so that help, and tvz is starting to be awesome again after a bit at the start when it was not realy interesting.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
May 14 2016 19:40 GMT
#1739
Thanks for all the answers, the trouble I had watching early Lotv was the prevalence of harassment over actual fights, esp liberators and adepts, is that still an issue?
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
genghiswolve
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany101 Posts
May 14 2016 19:41 GMT
#1740
On May 15 2016 04:40 VengefulTree wrote:
Thanks for all the answers, the trouble I had watching early Lotv was the prevalence of harassment over actual fights, esp liberators and adepts, is that still an issue?


Adept harass without a prism pretty much dissapeared after the very first minutes, liberators also get dealt with better.
Like less than in the beginning, but more than in hots (especially for P and Z with warp prism adepts and bane/ling drops).
I feel the balance is good, games dont get decided without a fight.
Prev 1 85 86 87 88 89 259 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
08:00
The QMC Showmatch 1
OSC
08:00
Masters Cup #151: Group A
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2049
GuemChi 1231
Snow 211
Creator 35
Noble 9
yabsab 7
Icarus 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm194
League of Legends
JimRising 706
Other Games
summit1g7187
Sick128
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick642
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 39
• Letter1411
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2219
League of Legends
• Lourlo1098
• Stunt381
Other Games
• Shiphtur634
Upcoming Events
OSC
6h 9m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 5h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 18h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Online Event
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
BSL Open Qualifier
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.