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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
April 15 2016 11:50 GMT
#521
On April 15 2016 20:48 GTR wrote:
Cure vs TY on 4.20 time to blaze it~

Very dank.

Honestly I expected Losira to get crushed way harder. So I guess the series did live up to the hype.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 15 2016 11:50 GMT
#522
On April 15 2016 20:47 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 20:47 Malgo wrote:
to be honest, losira didnt deserved Ro8...dark shouldve advanced, but lots of Z in the group made it to gimmicky

zvz right now is probably the coinflippyest its ever been


The main reason why I've switched races...
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
April 15 2016 11:51 GMT
#523
On April 15 2016 20:49 Phredxor wrote:
Hmm, I'm going to be in Japan for the semis and finals. Hopefully I can get some sweet wifi in my hotels so I can watch on my phone or something :s Depending on the time difference too

so close yet so far away

D:
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-15 11:52:06
April 15 2016 11:51 GMT
#524
On April 15 2016 20:50 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 20:47 Scarlett` wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Malgo wrote:
to be honest, losira didnt deserved Ro8...dark shouldve advanced, but lots of Z in the group made it to gimmicky

zvz right now is probably the coinflippyest its ever been


The main reason why I've switched races...


What did you switch to and how has it been? Thinking about playing Terran because of zvz. It's just that TvT is also not as cool as it was from what I've seen.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
April 15 2016 11:52 GMT
#525
What a frustrating day to watch Sc2.
Here's hoping for an exciting finals, but I have doubts.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 15 2016 11:53 GMT
#526
On April 15 2016 20:51 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 20:49 Phredxor wrote:
Hmm, I'm going to be in Japan for the semis and finals. Hopefully I can get some sweet wifi in my hotels so I can watch on my phone or something :s Depending on the time difference too

so close yet so far away

D:


I know

My silly missus doesn't have the love of SC2 that I have so Japan was chosen instead.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
April 15 2016 11:53 GMT
#527
On April 15 2016 20:51 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 20:50 Big J wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Scarlett` wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Malgo wrote:
to be honest, losira didnt deserved Ro8...dark shouldve advanced, but lots of Z in the group made it to gimmicky

zvz right now is probably the coinflippyest its ever been


The main reason why I've switched races...


What did you switch to and how has it been? Thinking about playing Terran because of zvz.

All mirrors are pretty harsh (especially on this map pool), not sure switching does anything. Not to mention you have to learn stuff first.

Every time I see someone make marauders in bio vs bio TvT I facepalm.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
April 15 2016 11:53 GMT
#528
On April 15 2016 20:47 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 20:47 Malgo wrote:
to be honest, losira didnt deserved Ro8...dark shouldve advanced, but lots of Z in the group made it to gimmicky

zvz right now is probably the coinflippyest its ever been


I think I read some other zergs say this a few times in WoL and HotS too
Revolutionist fan
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
April 15 2016 11:54 GMT
#529
My evaluation of Zest in game 1 and game 2:
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
April 15 2016 11:54 GMT
#530
On April 15 2016 20:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 20:51 Musicus wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:50 Big J wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Scarlett` wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Malgo wrote:
to be honest, losira didnt deserved Ro8...dark shouldve advanced, but lots of Z in the group made it to gimmicky

zvz right now is probably the coinflippyest its ever been


The main reason why I've switched races...


What did you switch to and how has it been? Thinking about playing Terran because of zvz.

All mirrors are pretty harsh (especially on this map pool), not sure switching does anything. Not to mention you have to learn stuff first.

Every time I see someone make marauders in bio vs bio TvT I facepalm.


Yeah, I'm scared that I'd just get frustrated from dying to reapers and cloaked banshee in TvT. Gonna just smurf some on NA at first I think.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
April 15 2016 11:56 GMT
#531
On April 15 2016 20:54 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 20:53 Elentos wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:51 Musicus wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:50 Big J wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Scarlett` wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Malgo wrote:
to be honest, losira didnt deserved Ro8...dark shouldve advanced, but lots of Z in the group made it to gimmicky

zvz right now is probably the coinflippyest its ever been


The main reason why I've switched races...


What did you switch to and how has it been? Thinking about playing Terran because of zvz.

All mirrors are pretty harsh (especially on this map pool), not sure switching does anything. Not to mention you have to learn stuff first.

Every time I see someone make marauders in bio vs bio TvT I facepalm.


Yeah, I'm scared that I'd just get frustrated from dying to reapers and cloaked banshee in TvT. Gonna just smurf some on NA at first I think.

Well, I guess at least this isn't mid HotS where many TvTs on ladder were just gas first BO losses.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 15 2016 11:57 GMT
#532
On April 15 2016 20:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 20:51 Musicus wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:50 Big J wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Scarlett` wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Malgo wrote:
to be honest, losira didnt deserved Ro8...dark shouldve advanced, but lots of Z in the group made it to gimmicky

zvz right now is probably the coinflippyest its ever been


The main reason why I've switched races...


What did you switch to and how has it been? Thinking about playing Terran because of zvz.

All mirrors are pretty harsh (especially on this map pool), not sure switching does anything. Not to mention you have to learn stuff first.

Every time I see someone make marauders in bio vs bio TvT I facepalm.

But at least you don't play TvT 80% of your ladder games
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-15 11:59:02
April 15 2016 11:58 GMT
#533
On April 15 2016 20:57 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 20:53 Elentos wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:51 Musicus wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:50 Big J wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Scarlett` wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Malgo wrote:
to be honest, losira didnt deserved Ro8...dark shouldve advanced, but lots of Z in the group made it to gimmicky

zvz right now is probably the coinflippyest its ever been


The main reason why I've switched races...


What did you switch to and how has it been? Thinking about playing Terran because of zvz.

All mirrors are pretty harsh (especially on this map pool), not sure switching does anything. Not to mention you have to learn stuff first.

Every time I see someone make marauders in bio vs bio TvT I facepalm.

But at least you don't play TvT 80% of your ladder games

That's true, I got like 6 or 7 TvT's in 60 games this season in Diamond.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 15 2016 11:59 GMT
#534
On April 15 2016 20:51 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 20:50 Big J wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Scarlett` wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Malgo wrote:
to be honest, losira didnt deserved Ro8...dark shouldve advanced, but lots of Z in the group made it to gimmicky

zvz right now is probably the coinflippyest its ever been


The main reason why I've switched races...


What did you switch to and how has it been? Thinking about playing Terran because of zvz. It's just that TvT is also not as cool as it was from what I've seen.


Yeah Terran. But I have a longtime history offracing Terran at near my zerg level (since late WoL), so it wasn't really a big step. It's more like I just don't play zerg anymore, instead of playing two races.

TvT is really bad by comparison to WoL and HotS. I used to be a Mech player in TvT and TvZ, so I'm not happy about how Terran plays these matchups these days, but it's still more fun than ZvZ and ZvP for me. The main thing you have to be aware if you switch to T these days is that you really need to get a mindset going that you shouldn't let your P/Z opponent's get lategame (you can let them get there, but you need to make it hard for them because it's the only way you will get there evenly - so try to kill them and work from there) and that keeping tanks in medivacs is more important than anything else in TvT. It's a very unstrategic race at the moment, but mechanically a lot of fun.
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
April 15 2016 12:00 GMT
#535
Were Zest games worth watching from a P perspective?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
April 15 2016 12:00 GMT
#536
On April 15 2016 20:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 20:54 Musicus wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:53 Elentos wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:51 Musicus wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:50 Big J wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Scarlett` wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Malgo wrote:
to be honest, losira didnt deserved Ro8...dark shouldve advanced, but lots of Z in the group made it to gimmicky

zvz right now is probably the coinflippyest its ever been


The main reason why I've switched races...


What did you switch to and how has it been? Thinking about playing Terran because of zvz.

All mirrors are pretty harsh (especially on this map pool), not sure switching does anything. Not to mention you have to learn stuff first.

Every time I see someone make marauders in bio vs bio TvT I facepalm.


Yeah, I'm scared that I'd just get frustrated from dying to reapers and cloaked banshee in TvT. Gonna just smurf some on NA at first I think.

Well, I guess at least this isn't mid HotS where many TvTs on ladder were just gas first BO losses.

you could just play safe 15 gas expand and defend everything if you scout and react well
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
April 15 2016 12:01 GMT
#537
On April 15 2016 20:59 Big J wrote:
The main thing you have to be aware if you switch to T these days is that you really need to get a mindset going that you shouldn't let your P/Z opponent's get lategame

Easier said than done, at least in TvP.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2446 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-15 12:04:28
April 15 2016 12:02 GMT
#538
On April 15 2016 20:53 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 20:47 Scarlett` wrote:
On April 15 2016 20:47 Malgo wrote:
to be honest, losira didnt deserved Ro8...dark shouldve advanced, but lots of Z in the group made it to gimmicky

zvz right now is probably the coinflippyest its ever been


I think I read some other zergs say this a few times in WoL and HotS too

well the later overlord scouting makes openings more random and it feels harder to gain an advantage in muta vs muta cuz u usually are 1 base ahead where you would be in hots/wol and its really easy to techswitch randomly into muta when ur playing roach vs roach (u die if they attack at certain point otherwise you're really ahead)

plus if someone gets ultras first they just kinda win (u can amove into mass lurker spine with ultra viper and crush it)

maybe im just terrible at it right now tho
Progamer一条咸鱼
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-15 12:11:55
April 15 2016 12:05 GMT
#539
On April 15 2016 21:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 20:59 Big J wrote:
The main thing you have to be aware if you switch to T these days is that you really need to get a mindset going that you shouldn't let your P/Z opponent's get lategame

Easier said than done, at least in TvP.


Yeah, it's not easy. I'm just saying this because from my zerg/Mech perspective - in which I learned to react to everything properly - this was the hardest step to get into bio play. Just the mindset of always having to and being able to attack. When you attack a lot you can learn from your replays and see where you were behind and where ahead and try to figure out the scenarios in which actually playing lategame is worth and when not. With Mech/Z(before SH nerf I guess) you'd usually just have a completely different mindset to begin with, only attack when the opponent opens up or you play cheesy.
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
April 15 2016 12:16 GMT
#540
On April 15 2016 21:00 CruelZeratul wrote:
Were Zest games worth watching from a P perspective?


I think the only reason you'd really watch would be to take in Zest's level of play and be stunned in awe.
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