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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55579 Posts
March 31 2016 21:36 GMT
#301
On April 01 2016 06:29 nick00bot wrote:
Is it bad that I enjoy watching ZvZ more than PvZ in Lotv? Protoss just always goes for the same Comp, and it seems to be a question of whether or not zerg can kill toss before enough archons and immortals are out. so much for avoiding deathballs..

Well first off, that's your personal taste so that's not bad

And no, I can see it. Protoss is forced to go for the same composition every game (even if they wanted to do something else it probably wouldn't work), Zerg is generally forced into the same direction every game aswell. PvZ is the most stale matchup in LotV, these games play out way too similar often. So I can see why people would be bored from this. I mean, the best thing that happened in this series was Solar blowing up shit with banelings.

On the other hand, for every really good game of ZvZ you can find like a dozen really shitty games. It's always been like that, and it's reputation is basically forever ruined.
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Supah
Profile Joined August 2010
708 Posts
April 01 2016 20:05 GMT
#302
Is it just me, or did he just play straight up and win this game? Actually really amazing play.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-01 21:26:29
April 01 2016 21:26 GMT
#303
On March 31 2016 19:35 KeksX wrote:
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On March 31 2016 19:32 Pandemona wrote:
On March 31 2016 19:30 KeksX wrote:
I want to point out that I appreciate your work Pandemona. No idea when you started doing this, but it looks like you weren't doing this before. So thanks! Without people like you this place wouldn't be as awesome.

Haha thanks, it was in my blog if you read it :3
I had to take over as no one else was doing the LR work in the background when Lorning left so i have been doing them since all of this expansion actually. Other people have helped do the LRs for me though like Elentos and Musc.


Don't want to get too offtopic, but did Lorning leave because of what happened to Prime, or for different reasons?

Didn't know Lorning left, actually. Sad . Bad yeah, I'm glad people are still keeping up!

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326 Posts
April 01 2016 22:01 GMT
#304
On the other hand, for every really good game of ZvZ you can find like a dozen really shitty games. It's always been like that, and it's reputation is basically forever ruined.


Maybe I just have some recency bias from Dark and Solar's game, but I feel like ZvZ is the best it's ever been. Ling Bane wars are often just transitions to roaches or mutas, and early pools aren't as fully all-in as they used to be. The hydra buff has been great at helping people deal with mutas, but the economic changes have made mutas more viable too. Late game is also very dynamic with lurkers, ultras, cracklings, broods, and infestors abound. Idk just feels like It's a totally new matchup past the initial ling-bane wars, and the wars themselves are less decisive than they used to be. I'm a happy man



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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
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Last Edited: 2016-04-01 23:07:05
April 01 2016 23:06 GMT
#305
Stats is already improving on his performance from last year in individual leagues. Will he reach Zest 2014 levels of dominance in the season(s) to come? (sorry, I fucking jinxed it didn't I?)
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