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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 01 2016 12:24 GMT
#641
On February 01 2016 21:23 OtherWorld wrote:
sc2 maps are always so fucking dark
depressing


Need more fruitland/world whatever it was!
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
February 01 2016 12:25 GMT
#642
On February 01 2016 21:22 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 21:22 The_Templar wrote:
On February 01 2016 21:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Bravos skill is quite visible

Well, he has gained a lot of it.

Literally 2 times the player Zest is




Bravo needs his own Nada's Body thread
BW4LIFE
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
February 01 2016 12:25 GMT
#643
Could it be?
Were the legends true?
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
February 01 2016 12:25 GMT
#644
Cyclone upgrade? Is it... mech?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
February 01 2016 12:25 GMT
#645
On February 01 2016 21:23 OtherWorld wrote:
sc2 maps are always so fucking dark
depressing


gamers dont do well w/ bright maps, they burn >.<
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 01 2016 12:26 GMT
#646
On February 01 2016 21:21 The_Templar wrote:
Proleague: KT vs Samsung

(P)Zest vs (T)BrAvO
2-2

Map: Dusk Towers

Zest spawns in the top right
BrAvO spawns in the bottom left

21:22 KST
Reaper opening for BrAvO.
Zest opening 1gate expand and getting an adept.

21:23 KST
BrAvO expands.
Factory being made.
The reaper gets in and sees a robotics facility starting.

21:24 KST
Factory finishing for BrAvO.
Twilight council being made.
BrAvO gets a starport.

21:25 KST
BrAvO getting a cyclone.
MSC on the way for Zest.
Second cyclone and medivac on the way.
Observer sees a cyclone.
BrAvO is also getting a liberator. And another cyclone.
Third nexus for Zest.
The observer sees a liberator finish.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
February 01 2016 12:26 GMT
#647
The patch is live already? I got bravo on FPL so pls be yes
WriterMaru
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 12:27:00
February 01 2016 12:26 GMT
#648
On February 01 2016 21:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 21:16 hansonslee wrote:
On February 01 2016 21:05 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 21:03 Golgotha wrote:
On February 01 2016 21:00 CrayonPopChoa wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:58 Golgotha wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 01 2016 20:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This was the perfect example of why I hate LotV PvP. All strategic skill is completely irrelevant. It's all disruptor shots.

So you are one of those guys who value strategy a lot more than micro/mechanics?
I mean Zest pretty much stopped microing alltogether, obviously that should lose you the game if both armies are somewhat similar


I'm not impressed by brainless mechanics, no. I appreciate the mind more than the body in SC2's case I guess.


yes. because collossus was a lot less brainless.


Wrong! But I guess people who don't understand protoss at a high enough level won't understand that.


you are giving me some great insight into the mind of the average blizzard SC2 developer


please tell me this olli kid is not a sc2 dev. please.


Sorry, just someone who understands protoss decently.


Yes, you may understand Protoss, but a lot of us hated Protoss for what it was before LotV. Sure, there were a lot of intricacies, but it's design was just damn too much of a snowball effect. If you are way too behind economically, well, you're fucked unless you turtle pretty hard. Or if you do crippling damage, well, guess what? You win because Protoss was heavily reliant on tech. That's why I didn't enjoy PvP too much whenever Colossus was involved. It usually came down to your colossus count, army composition, and positioning, which really gives no room for error and no way to come back unless your opponent fucks up. I mean in BW, it was usually a Dragoon and Reaver war, which was pretty damn exciting.


And now it's essentially irrelevant early-midgame building up (unless someone just kills the other guy). Then it's disruptor/blink stalker for the rest of the game where all that matters is that one key disruptor hit and nobody can push advantages anymore. Takes the strategy right out of RTS.

I don't understand the argument. If tech, economy, army positioning, control in fights, colossus count, composition matter - isn't that much deeper than gambling on good disruptor shots?


It's definitely deeper, but it's not fun to watch at all. I mean, if you look at a spectator sports such as football, people don't care about how strategic football can be with man formations, proper foul/out timings, and ball handling. All people care about is the goal. I mean, like with football, the team can make the better decisions, but if your goalie fucks up or your opponent got lucky with a good shot, well, according to the scoreboard, it doesn't matter how "good" you were.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
February 01 2016 12:26 GMT
#649
On February 01 2016 21:26 Poopi wrote:
The patch is live already? I got bravo on FPL so pls be yes

Yes it is.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 01 2016 12:26 GMT
#650
On February 01 2016 21:25 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 21:23 OtherWorld wrote:
sc2 maps are always so fucking dark
depressing


gamers dont do well w/ bright maps, they burn >.<

yeah WC3 players aren't gamers
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
February 01 2016 12:26 GMT
#651
maybe it's too short a time after the patch but I was expecting CC first or 1-rax expand into 3 rax openings again with the nerfed PO and adept. Seems like Korean terrans are still all going for tech opening
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 01 2016 12:26 GMT
#652
On February 01 2016 21:25 Elentos wrote:
Cyclone upgrade? Is it... mech?

Even with uprade cyclone still trade poorly agains stalker
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 01 2016 12:27 GMT
#653
Wrote release the plebs once, got like 6 pleb pms agreeing with me
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
February 01 2016 12:27 GMT
#654
On February 01 2016 21:25 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 21:23 OtherWorld wrote:
sc2 maps are always so fucking dark
depressing


gamers dont do well w/ bright maps, they burn >.<

lol
I do like the shinny new purifier map though
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
February 01 2016 12:27 GMT
#655
On February 01 2016 21:26 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 21:25 TT1 wrote:
On February 01 2016 21:23 OtherWorld wrote:
sc2 maps are always so fucking dark
depressing


gamers dont do well w/ bright maps, they burn >.<

yeah WC3 players aren't gamers

And all heroes players are feminists
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
February 01 2016 12:27 GMT
#656
On February 01 2016 21:26 Poopi wrote:
The patch is live already? I got bravo on FPL so pls be yes


whats the patch gonna do? it only affects the early game, marines have combat shield in the middgame so adepts cant 2 shot them anyways
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 12:28:20
February 01 2016 12:27 GMT
#657
Colors should be neutral to not distract from stuff you should see, shiny lights should stand out, eyes must remain healthy
edit: i hate snow maps
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
February 01 2016 12:28 GMT
#658
On February 01 2016 21:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 21:21 Schelim wrote:
On February 01 2016 21:19 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On February 01 2016 21:15 Schelim wrote:
On February 01 2016 21:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On February 01 2016 21:12 Schelim wrote:
they sent Bravo to snipe TY, so KT sent Zest instead. makes sense.

Are you now in Scotland?

yes, have been here for a few months now. why are you asking?

Just saw it the first time and knew you were Austrian

haha, true that. nice memory my fellow Austrian friend!

i'm at the university of Edinburgh on an Erasmus exchange.


Oh awesome, how is the student life there? I've considered an exchange semester there myself, visited Edinburgh a few years ago and loved it.

it's been amazing. i'm on exchange for 2 semesters, first one's done and the second one started 3 weeks ago and i already feel sad whenever i think about the idea that i'll have to go back to Vienna in a few months.
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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
February 01 2016 12:28 GMT
#659
Bravo?
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
February 01 2016 12:28 GMT
#660
Welp
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
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