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MATCHERINO #3 More Bo5's!

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BasetradeTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Canada1307 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-22 05:12:17
November 21 2015 06:39 GMT
#1
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Matcherino allows viewers and streamers to interact more freely by giving them a platform to organize matches, subbattles, and other events on the fly. Matcherino lets viewers crowdfund the prize pool of matches between their favorite players and participate in games with streamers, and helps streamers organize the events that their viewers want to see. We’re a startup whose mission is to build things that this community wants, so any feedback is greatly appreciated. Hope you enjoy the matches!

-Matcherino

These guys have created a prettier, more organized version of what we've been doing - Crowdfunding for Starcraft Showmatches, so I was more than happy to help them launch some matches when approached. The only part that matters is as follows:
  • LOTV
  • All matches are Bo5
  • Each match can be worth at least $250 (60 winner / 40 loser) by default
  • You can donate $ directly to each match to increase the prize pool by clicking the link below the name
  • ???
  • Profit


Casting will be available on http://twitch.tv/basetradetv

November 23
7 AM PST
(T)ByuN vs (P)Patience
8AM PST
(Z)HyuN vs (Z)TRUE
9 AM PST
(P)Harstem vs (Z)Scarlett
10 AM PST
(T)MarineLorD vs (Z)TLO




Lastly, the obvious question is, "Are Matcherino taking a % per donation to create a profit, if so how much actually goes to the players?" This was the first thing I asked when they approached us, and currently 100% of the money will go to the players.
Commentator
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 21 2015 07:08 GMT
#2
nice lineup! I'll be sure to tune in
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1731 Posts
November 21 2015 07:46 GMT
#3
I wish they'd tweak the matchup a little bit so there wouldn't be a mirror matchup...

Well I'd tune in anyway though. TLO is awesome.
BasetradeTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Canada1307 Posts
November 22 2015 05:11 GMT
#4
Oh cool, managed to sneak in a (P)Harstem vs (Z)Scarlett match as well now
Commentator
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 22 2015 05:58 GMT
#5
Harstem has been in Korea for a while now, so I'm looking forward to seeing him do much better than Huk did vs Scarlett .
BasetradeTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Canada1307 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 02:30:14
November 23 2015 02:03 GMT
#6
Match page links are up, you can donate to any of these to increase the prize pool! Normally Matcherino takes a small % cut off the top, but a reminder that they give 100% of money to the players for our showmatches

Byun vs Patience: https://matcherino.com/bounties/starcraft-ii/2/byu-n-prime-vs-patience/1574
Coupon Code:patiencebyun

hyun vs true: https://matcherino.com/bounties/starcraft-ii/2/quantic-hyun-vs-truesc-2/1575
Coupon Code: truehyun

harstem vs scarlett: https://matcherino.com/bounties/starcraft-ii/2/harstem-vs-scarlett-m/1576
Coupon Code: scarstem

TLO vs MarineLord: https://matcherino.com/bounties/starcraft-ii/2/liquid-tlo-vs-marine-lord/1577
Coupon Code: marineone

If you select the option to donate and use the Coupon Code it will either add $1 to your donation, or alternatively if you are donating 0 it will create $1 for you and donate it on Matcherino's behalf.
Commentator
Wardi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
England897 Posts
November 23 2015 02:28 GMT
#7
Gotta love some SC2 during the day :D Gogo Terrans
CommentatorOwner of WardiTV. Streamer, caster & event organizer. / / www.wardi.tv
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
November 23 2015 02:53 GMT
#8
Sweet! Can't wait to watch Scarlett collect some more protoss tears
NyxNax
Profile Joined March 2014
United States227 Posts
November 23 2015 08:37 GMT
#9
So is there 250 for each match + crowdfunding? Used the coupon code on each match, hope some more do as well!
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
November 23 2015 15:02 GMT
#10
And it's live!
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 23 2015 15:08 GMT
#11
Great games!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
deus.machinarum
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria658 Posts
November 23 2015 15:10 GMT
#12
Come on Shura!
Nothing worth having comes easy.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 23 2015 15:12 GMT
#13
Hyped for this. Go ByuN.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
November 23 2015 15:56 GMT
#14
What is Patience doing????
SmykuToronto
Profile Joined October 2014
Poland269 Posts
November 23 2015 15:57 GMT
#15
On November 24 2015 00:56 RaFox17 wrote:
What is Patience doing????

More like what is Byun doing?
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10083 Posts
November 23 2015 15:58 GMT
#16
how did that game happened? wtf!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
November 23 2015 15:58 GMT
#17
Monster.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
November 23 2015 15:58 GMT
#18
On November 24 2015 00:57 SmykuToronto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 00:56 RaFox17 wrote:
What is Patience doing????

More like what is Byun doing?

Not donating immortals and attacking his own units :D
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 23 2015 15:58 GMT
#19
On November 24 2015 00:57 SmykuToronto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 00:56 RaFox17 wrote:
What is Patience doing????

More like what is Byun doing?

That PF in Patience's natural may have won the game.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 23 2015 15:58 GMT
#20
Why did he GG? He still had gold?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 23 2015 16:00 GMT
#21
On November 24 2015 00:58 Ansibled wrote:
Why did he GG? He still had gold?

He scarified his entire army trying to break ByuN's PF at his natural.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
deus.machinarum
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria658 Posts
November 23 2015 16:04 GMT
#22
Damn....3-0! Who's the favorite between True and Hyun?
Nothing worth having comes easy.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 23 2015 16:06 GMT
#23
On November 24 2015 01:04 deus.machinarum wrote:
Damn....3-0! Who's the favorite between True and Hyun?

Probably true.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
November 23 2015 16:11 GMT
#24
shuold be 70/30 or something...for 40% players wont even care if they get stomped
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 16:21:41
November 23 2015 16:20 GMT
#25
get away with a hidden base and still losing?

nvm that fight went well for TRUE
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
PepperMintTea
Profile Joined November 2015
187 Posts
November 23 2015 16:31 GMT
#26
Interesting ZvZ so far
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 23 2015 16:41 GMT
#27
That 3rd game was awesome :D
Zest fanboy.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
November 23 2015 16:52 GMT
#28
the fuck was that attack?
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 23 2015 16:54 GMT
#29
you know a 3rd is hard to take when both players take a ninja base in a mirror
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
November 23 2015 16:55 GMT
#30
hold pos lurkers stronk
yo
deus.machinarum
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria658 Posts
November 23 2015 16:55 GMT
#31
gotta love double secret bases
Nothing worth having comes easy.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
November 23 2015 16:55 GMT
#32
HOLD POSITION LURKERS
Liquipedia"Expert"
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10680 Posts
November 23 2015 17:03 GMT
#33
Can't wait to see Scarlett in LOTV!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18469 Posts
November 23 2015 17:11 GMT
#34
On November 23 2015 11:03 BasetradeTV wrote:
Match page links are up, you can donate to any of these to increase the prize pool! Normally Matcherino takes a small % cut off the top, but a reminder that they give 100% of money to the players for our showmatches

Byun vs Patience: https://matcherino.com/bounties/starcraft-ii/2/byu-n-prime-vs-patience/1574
Coupon Code:patiencebyun

hyun vs true: https://matcherino.com/bounties/starcraft-ii/2/quantic-hyun-vs-truesc-2/1575
Coupon Code: truehyun

harstem vs scarlett: https://matcherino.com/bounties/starcraft-ii/2/harstem-vs-scarlett-m/1576
Coupon Code: scarstem

TLO vs MarineLord: https://matcherino.com/bounties/starcraft-ii/2/liquid-tlo-vs-marine-lord/1577
Coupon Code: marineone

If you select the option to donate and use the Coupon Code it will either add $1 to your donation, or alternatively if you are donating 0 it will create $1 for you and donate it on Matcherino's behalf.


put this up in OP please!
I only realised this from watching by chance
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 23 2015 17:24 GMT
#35
Shura?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
November 23 2015 17:31 GMT
#36
2 SHs, misclick?
Liquipedia"Expert"
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 17:32:37
November 23 2015 17:32 GMT
#37
On November 24 2015 02:31 Inflicted wrote:
2 SHs, misclick?

1 sh is a missclick, 2 is just madness
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 17:48:35
November 23 2015 17:33 GMT
#38
Protoss on 86 workers lol

Rough from Scarlett though, not sure what she was going for

Harstem going full Idra in game 2 though.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
HEADD
Profile Joined June 2014
Czech Republic611 Posts
November 23 2015 17:48 GMT
#39
idra GG timing?
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
November 23 2015 17:48 GMT
#40
I mean, I would surrender too once I see Scarlett has reached Muta tech tbh.....
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18469 Posts
November 23 2015 17:53 GMT
#41
On November 24 2015 02:48 SlammerIV wrote:
I mean, I would surrender too once I see Scarlett has reached Muta tech tbh.....


if you are not sOs?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 23 2015 17:56 GMT
#42
On November 24 2015 02:53 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 02:48 SlammerIV wrote:
I mean, I would surrender too once I see Scarlett has reached Muta tech tbh.....


if you are not sOs?

Being sOs generally makes you exempt from the norms of Starcraft
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 23 2015 18:03 GMT
#43
Blink stalker adept eat hydras for breakfast.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 23 2015 18:04 GMT
#44
I'm not sure why Scarlett doesn't get lurkers. Seems like they'd be much better in that situation than upgradeless ultras
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18469 Posts
November 23 2015 18:07 GMT
#45
On November 24 2015 03:03 royalroadweed wrote:
Blink stalker adept eat hydras for breakfast.


even stalker/sentry did back in HotS heh
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 23 2015 18:12 GMT
#46
Nice disruptor shot on the Adepts Harstem :p.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 23 2015 18:12 GMT
#47
LOL fucking protoss players
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 23 2015 18:13 GMT
#48
Lol. Feels so good seeing protoss on the wrong side of their own splash.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 23 2015 18:13 GMT
#49
Even after that hit, Harstem is still ahead. That push should have won though so I'm sure he still feels dumb
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 23 2015 18:15 GMT
#50
On November 24 2015 03:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Even after that hit, Harstem is still ahead. That push should have won though so I'm sure he still feels dumb

I believe in the power of 1/1.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18469 Posts
November 23 2015 18:15 GMT
#51
On November 24 2015 03:15 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 03:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Even after that hit, Harstem is still ahead. That push should have won though so I'm sure he still feels dumb

I believe in the power of 1/1.


actually its the lurker that helped her tremendously...
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 23 2015 18:18 GMT
#52
Harstem is out-greedying Scarlett, he's going to like 82 probes every game
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 23 2015 18:20 GMT
#53
I'm not sure why disruptors are so effective vs zerg. On paper zerg many options that shut them down hard.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
November 23 2015 18:20 GMT
#54
Not really sure what to think about the lurker-disruptor dynamic. Feels like lurkers really get the short end in that trade.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18469 Posts
November 23 2015 18:20 GMT
#55
On November 24 2015 03:20 RaFox17 wrote:
Not really sure what to think about the lurker-disruptor dynamic. Feels like lurkers really get the short end in that trade.


It's fine, lurkers also kept dieing to siege tanks in BW.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
November 23 2015 18:22 GMT
#56
On November 24 2015 03:20 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 03:20 RaFox17 wrote:
Not really sure what to think about the lurker-disruptor dynamic. Feels like lurkers really get the short end in that trade.


It's fine, lurkers also kept dieing to siege tanks in BW.

The traditional BW argument :D
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 18:23:16
November 23 2015 18:22 GMT
#57
And that's game. Harstem kills his own army and still shreks Scarlett. Reeeeaaaally hope we see her improve. We need our top foreigner back
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18469 Posts
November 23 2015 18:22 GMT
#58
On November 24 2015 03:22 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 03:20 sharkie wrote:
On November 24 2015 03:20 RaFox17 wrote:
Not really sure what to think about the lurker-disruptor dynamic. Feels like lurkers really get the short end in that trade.


It's fine, lurkers also kept dieing to siege tanks in BW.

The traditional BW argument :D


well it is the best RTS ever created
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4135 Posts
November 23 2015 18:23 GMT
#59
I havent followed lotv so far. zerg lost his on-creep movement/power advantage?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18469 Posts
November 23 2015 18:23 GMT
#60
On November 24 2015 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
And that's game. Harstem kills his own army and still shreks Scarlett


in a meta when zerg is destroying protoss too...
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 18:25:11
November 23 2015 18:24 GMT
#61
On November 24 2015 03:23 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
And that's game. Harstem kills his own army and still shreks Scarlett


in a meta when zerg is destroying protoss too...

Yes, it's worrying to see. Perhaps I'm being too negative though. Harstem is training in Korea so he's obvioiusly going to be in much better practice
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
November 23 2015 18:24 GMT
#62
Disruptors XD
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
November 23 2015 18:25 GMT
#63
Poor Scarlett, not looking that strong
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 23 2015 18:26 GMT
#64
On November 24 2015 03:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 03:23 sharkie wrote:
On November 24 2015 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
And that's game. Harstem kills his own army and still shreks Scarlett


in a meta when zerg is destroying protoss too...

Yes, it's worrying to see. Perhaps I'm being too negative though. Harstem is training in Korea so he's obvioiusly going to be in much better practice

It's someone who has been training hardcore in Korea vs someone who started playing like a week ago...
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
November 23 2015 18:28 GMT
#65
On November 24 2015 03:26 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 03:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 24 2015 03:23 sharkie wrote:
On November 24 2015 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
And that's game. Harstem kills his own army and still shreks Scarlett


in a meta when zerg is destroying protoss too...

Yes, it's worrying to see. Perhaps I'm being too negative though. Harstem is training in Korea so he's obvioiusly going to be in much better practice

It's someone who has been training hardcore in Korea vs someone who started playing like a week ago...

Scarlett has played for longer than a week...
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 23 2015 18:29 GMT
#66
On November 24 2015 03:28 Strela wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 03:26 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 24 2015 03:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 24 2015 03:23 sharkie wrote:
On November 24 2015 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
And that's game. Harstem kills his own army and still shreks Scarlett


in a meta when zerg is destroying protoss too...

Yes, it's worrying to see. Perhaps I'm being too negative though. Harstem is training in Korea so he's obvioiusly going to be in much better practice

It's someone who has been training hardcore in Korea vs someone who started playing like a week ago...

Scarlett has played for longer than a week...


Ya, she's been playing for 4 years
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 18:33:22
November 23 2015 18:31 GMT
#67
I think you need a ton of lings in zvp with melee upgrades. They are incredible vs Stalker/disruptor since the toss can't use disrupotrs on them when you get the surround or they blow up their own units.

Lurkers deal enough damage without attack upgrades and if you get to hive, cracklings are super OP. Then add somer Ultras and Vipers and you are good I think.

Toss should not have enough gas to build a lot of sentries if they build a lot of Disruptors and if you see too many sentries early on you just go Ling/Ravager.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
HEADD
Profile Joined June 2014
Czech Republic611 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 18:33:09
November 23 2015 18:31 GMT
#68
i am sure its pretty hard be on the same level after scarlett didnt play like 6 months or if its even possible..

but i am 100% if she wants be on same level like before she need 120% commitment and maybe travel to korea and train there
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 18:35:59
November 23 2015 18:35 GMT
#69
On November 24 2015 03:28 Strela wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 03:26 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 24 2015 03:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 24 2015 03:23 sharkie wrote:
On November 24 2015 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
And that's game. Harstem kills his own army and still shreks Scarlett


in a meta when zerg is destroying protoss too...

Yes, it's worrying to see. Perhaps I'm being too negative though. Harstem is training in Korea so he's obvioiusly going to be in much better practice

It's someone who has been training hardcore in Korea vs someone who started playing like a week ago...

Scarlett has played for longer than a week...

She didn't even know Central Protocol had a backdoor to your main in Nation Wars last week. Pretty sure she didn't really play beta either, so probably 2 weeks max of serious play after not even playing HotS for months.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 23 2015 18:46 GMT
#70
So much for Zerg being OP RIP
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 23 2015 19:02 GMT
#71
DAE ZvX imba
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18469 Posts
November 23 2015 19:02 GMT
#72
On November 24 2015 04:02 Ej_ wrote:
DAE ZvX imba


Marinelord looks way better than TLO and it's not the race
HEADD
Profile Joined June 2014
Czech Republic611 Posts
November 23 2015 19:03 GMT
#73
Zerg looks like crap in LOTV
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 23 2015 19:03 GMT
#74
On November 24 2015 04:02 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 04:02 Ej_ wrote:
DAE ZvX imba


Marinelord looks way better than TLO and it's not the race

certainly because tvz was supposed to be extremely zerg favored
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
November 23 2015 19:08 GMT
#75
On November 24 2015 04:03 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 04:02 sharkie wrote:
On November 24 2015 04:02 Ej_ wrote:
DAE ZvX imba


Marinelord looks way better than TLO and it's not the race

certainly because tvz was supposed to be extremely zerg favored

It's extremely Solar favored
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 23 2015 19:10 GMT
#76
On November 24 2015 04:08 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 04:03 Ej_ wrote:
On November 24 2015 04:02 sharkie wrote:
On November 24 2015 04:02 Ej_ wrote:
DAE ZvX imba


Marinelord looks way better than TLO and it's not the race

certainly because tvz was supposed to be extremely zerg favored

It's extremely Solar favored

Don't forget nerchio the Byun slayer
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 23 2015 19:11 GMT
#77
On November 24 2015 04:10 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 04:08 HellHound wrote:
On November 24 2015 04:03 Ej_ wrote:
On November 24 2015 04:02 sharkie wrote:
On November 24 2015 04:02 Ej_ wrote:
DAE ZvX imba


Marinelord looks way better than TLO and it's not the race

certainly because tvz was supposed to be extremely zerg favored

It's extremely Solar favored

Don't forget nerchio the Byun slayer

Online minor tournament Nerchio is the only thing more OP than ByuN right now
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 23 2015 19:12 GMT
#78
On November 24 2015 04:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 04:10 Shellshock wrote:
On November 24 2015 04:08 HellHound wrote:
On November 24 2015 04:03 Ej_ wrote:
On November 24 2015 04:02 sharkie wrote:
On November 24 2015 04:02 Ej_ wrote:
DAE ZvX imba


Marinelord looks way better than TLO and it's not the race

certainly because tvz was supposed to be extremely zerg favored

It's extremely Solar favored

Don't forget nerchio the Byun slayer

Online minor tournament Nerchio is the only thing more OP than ByuN right now

waiting for reddit to call maphacks any time now
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 23 2015 19:13 GMT
#79
lmao MLord forgot stim
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18469 Posts
November 23 2015 19:14 GMT
#80
On November 24 2015 04:13 Ej_ wrote:
lmao MLord forgot stim


TLO makes it even into suiciding his whole army into tanks!
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
November 23 2015 19:14 GMT
#81
At what point exactly became roach/ravager better than ling/bling/muta from a watcher's perspective? This game looks soooo boring.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
November 23 2015 19:15 GMT
#82
On November 24 2015 04:14 boxerfred wrote:
At what point exactly became roach/ravager better than ling/bling/muta from a watcher's perspective? This game looks soooo boring.

After the 4th shot.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 23 2015 19:15 GMT
#83
On November 24 2015 04:14 boxerfred wrote:
At what point exactly became roach/ravager better than ling/bling/muta from a watcher's perspective? This game looks soooo boring.

at the point where you don't watch liberator/marine amove through muta/ling/bane
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
November 23 2015 19:16 GMT
#84
Roaches dying to bio since forever.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 19:17:00
November 23 2015 19:16 GMT
#85
wow lotv tvz is disappointing as fuck. enjoy watching guys im outta here
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 23 2015 19:17 GMT
#86
what was the final score of scarlet harstem btw? I didn't get to catch it
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 23 2015 19:17 GMT
#87
(P)Harstem 3-1 (Z)Scarlett/Shura
(T)MarineLorD 3-0 (Z)TLO

But Zerg OP guys
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18469 Posts
November 23 2015 19:17 GMT
#88
On November 24 2015 04:17 Shellshock wrote:
what was the final score of scarlet harstem btw? I didn't get to catch it


3-1 harstem
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
November 23 2015 19:17 GMT
#89
On November 24 2015 04:17 Shellshock wrote:
what was the final score of scarlet harstem btw? I didn't get to catch it

2-1 into 3-1 into harstem killing his army with his own disruptors and winning anyway for a 3-1
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 23 2015 19:19 GMT
#90
Thanks for the answers
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
November 23 2015 19:29 GMT
#91
On November 24 2015 04:16 boxerfred wrote:
wow lotv tvz is disappointing as fuck. enjoy watching guys im outta here

It's not disappointing if proper players are playing
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
November 23 2015 21:51 GMT
#92
On November 24 2015 04:29 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 04:16 boxerfred wrote:
wow lotv tvz is disappointing as fuck. enjoy watching guys im outta here

It's not disappointing if proper players are playing


listen to this man, he knows what he's talking about
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SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5446 Posts
November 23 2015 23:38 GMT
#93
Any VODS available or only for subscribers?
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 24 2015 01:12 GMT
#94
On November 24 2015 08:38 SoleSteeler wrote:
Any VODS available or only for subscribers?

Free

http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv/profile/
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5446 Posts
November 24 2015 02:23 GMT
#95
On November 24 2015 10:12 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 08:38 SoleSteeler wrote:
Any VODS available or only for subscribers?

Free

http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv/profile/


Thank you, sir.
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