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On November 05 2015 02:22 The_Templar wrote:Why does it say my favorite player is sOs D: Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 02:11 Cricketer12 wrote:On November 05 2015 02:09 The_Templar wrote:On November 05 2015 01:20 OtherWorld wrote:On November 05 2015 01:13 The_Templar wrote:On November 05 2015 00:29 Die4Ever wrote:
Lots of text Russian Federation at 26th :[ On November 05 2015 01:12 BisuDagger wrote:Because I'm colorblind I can't see the Terran icon against this background. Not that Terran matters to me or anything, just mentioning it  As a not-colorblind person, it's really hard to see the terran icon anyway. Blame Lorning. Templar, as a proud Russian citizen do you intend to get a tatoo of your glorious leader Putin? I heard more and more Russians get Putin tatooed on their body. Some even get Putin disguised as a Pharaoh or as a Tsar. Unfortunately, my religion forbids tattoos. On November 05 2015 01:35 Cricketer12 wrote:On November 05 2015 01:13 The_Templar wrote:On November 05 2015 00:29 Die4Ever wrote:
Even more text Russian Federation at 26th :[ On November 05 2015 01:12 BisuDagger wrote:Because I'm colorblind I can't see the Terran icon against this background. Not that Terran matters to me or anything, just mentioning it As a not-colorblind person, it's really hard to see the terran icon anyway. Blame Lorning. Russian BC? Really? ...Yes. I mean, Pakistan Carrier > Russia Battlecruiser  But your country is USA
It's because there's no space between "Moderator" and "Classic", it's just CSS that puts space between them but there isn't any space in the text itself, so it reads your sig as "ModeratorClassic > sOs", put a space in there
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When exactly are the archon mode showmatches?
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On November 05 2015 02:39 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 02:37 Diabolique wrote:On November 05 2015 02:34 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:31 Diabolique wrote:On November 04 2015 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:Thanks The_Templar ! Our pashun can now flow freely  Rooting for Classic, INnoVation or Life this weekend. I hope the level of play will be astounding, though I expect the lower bracket finalist to get a beatdown. IF (and only IF) sOs gets to final, then the upper bracket finalist will get a beatdown. Because into the final, he would bring 4 baseball bats. Can those 4 bats break the spirit of a herO? Can those 4 bats bring themselves to destroy a true Classic? Can those 4 bats break the metal body of a machine, the epitome of human INnoVation? Can those 4 bats defeat Life itself? Or will he be sending out an sOs because his bats broke? (Find out next time, on Dragonball Blizz) I am pretty sure, if he gets to the final, there is only one player able to beat him in that case and that is InnoVation. herO has no chance, Classic has a little chance, Life has no chance. Wouldn't be so sure. If Life gets to the finals to play sOs he'll have to beat Classic or herO, and both of them are generally a bit better vZ than sOs.
They are better, but they are predictable. Life loves chaos, sOs does love it even more.
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On November 05 2015 02:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
When exactly are the archon mode showmatches?
After the quarterfinals.
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This thread lacks some quality hype
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On November 05 2015 02:51 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 02:39 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:37 Diabolique wrote:On November 05 2015 02:34 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:31 Diabolique wrote:On November 04 2015 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:Thanks The_Templar ! Our pashun can now flow freely Rooting for Classic, INnoVation or Life this weekend. I hope the level of play will be astounding, though I expect the lower bracket finalist to get a beatdown. IF (and only IF) sOs gets to final, then the upper bracket finalist will get a beatdown. Because into the final, he would bring 4 baseball bats. Can those 4 bats break the spirit of a herO? Can those 4 bats bring themselves to destroy a true Classic? Can those 4 bats break the metal body of a machine, the epitome of human INnoVation? Can those 4 bats defeat Life itself? Or will he be sending out an sOs because his bats broke? (Find out next time, on Dragonball Blizz) I am pretty sure, if he gets to the final, there is only one player able to beat him in that case and that is InnoVation. herO has no chance, Classic has a little chance, Life has no chance. Wouldn't be so sure. If Life gets to the finals to play sOs he'll have to beat Classic or herO, and both of them are generally a bit better vZ than sOs. They are better, but they are predictable. Life loves chaos, sOs does love it even more.
Isn't it odd then that sOs's greatest nemeses are the least chaotic players of each race? INnoVation, Zest and Solar? Shouldn't they have more trouble living through the chaos?
If Life gets to the finals with this bracket he's already working miracles, I wouldn't bet against him at that point (not that betting against Life in finals is ever a great idea).
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On November 05 2015 02:59 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 02:51 Diabolique wrote:On November 05 2015 02:39 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:37 Diabolique wrote:On November 05 2015 02:34 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:31 Diabolique wrote:On November 04 2015 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:Thanks The_Templar ! Our pashun can now flow freely Rooting for Classic, INnoVation or Life this weekend. I hope the level of play will be astounding, though I expect the lower bracket finalist to get a beatdown. IF (and only IF) sOs gets to final, then the upper bracket finalist will get a beatdown. Because into the final, he would bring 4 baseball bats. Can those 4 bats break the spirit of a herO? Can those 4 bats bring themselves to destroy a true Classic? Can those 4 bats break the metal body of a machine, the epitome of human INnoVation? Can those 4 bats defeat Life itself? Or will he be sending out an sOs because his bats broke? (Find out next time, on Dragonball Blizz) I am pretty sure, if he gets to the final, there is only one player able to beat him in that case and that is InnoVation. herO has no chance, Classic has a little chance, Life has no chance. Wouldn't be so sure. If Life gets to the finals to play sOs he'll have to beat Classic or herO, and both of them are generally a bit better vZ than sOs. They are better, but they are predictable. Life loves chaos, sOs does love it even more. Isn't it odd then that sOs's greatest nemeses are the least chaotic players of each race? INnoVation, Zest and Solar? Shouldn't they have more trouble living through the chaos? If Life gets to the finals with this bracket he's already working miracles, I wouldn't bet against him at that point (not that betting against Life in finals is ever a great idea).
The only problem, I see for sOs is that he is not in top shape ... so he could lose to Rain or to Rogue ... but IN CASE, HE GETS TO THE FINALS, I believe, the motivation to become the 300.000 man is too high and his skill level is too high as well ... and he can do 2 unexpected cheeses in the final, which will bring him two games ... so he just needs to win another 2 games. The only problem is, that Innovation is so perfect that that might not be enough ... but in their last 3 games, sOs is leading 2:1 and his 2:0 at MSI looked quite ez-pz
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On November 05 2015 03:17 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 02:59 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:51 Diabolique wrote:On November 05 2015 02:39 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:37 Diabolique wrote:On November 05 2015 02:34 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:31 Diabolique wrote:On November 04 2015 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:Thanks The_Templar ! Our pashun can now flow freely Rooting for Classic, INnoVation or Life this weekend. I hope the level of play will be astounding, though I expect the lower bracket finalist to get a beatdown. IF (and only IF) sOs gets to final, then the upper bracket finalist will get a beatdown. Because into the final, he would bring 4 baseball bats. Can those 4 bats break the spirit of a herO? Can those 4 bats bring themselves to destroy a true Classic? Can those 4 bats break the metal body of a machine, the epitome of human INnoVation? Can those 4 bats defeat Life itself? Or will he be sending out an sOs because his bats broke? (Find out next time, on Dragonball Blizz) I am pretty sure, if he gets to the final, there is only one player able to beat him in that case and that is InnoVation. herO has no chance, Classic has a little chance, Life has no chance. Wouldn't be so sure. If Life gets to the finals to play sOs he'll have to beat Classic or herO, and both of them are generally a bit better vZ than sOs. They are better, but they are predictable. Life loves chaos, sOs does love it even more. Isn't it odd then that sOs's greatest nemeses are the least chaotic players of each race? INnoVation, Zest and Solar? Shouldn't they have more trouble living through the chaos? If Life gets to the finals with this bracket he's already working miracles, I wouldn't bet against him at that point (not that betting against Life in finals is ever a great idea). I believe, the motivation to become the 300.000 man is too high
If Life wins Blizzcon he'll be the first SC2 player to break 500k prize money, that's also pretty motivating I think. But I don't feel like either of them is going to reach the finals this year.
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On November 05 2015 02:59 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 02:51 Diabolique wrote:On November 05 2015 02:39 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:37 Diabolique wrote:On November 05 2015 02:34 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:31 Diabolique wrote:On November 04 2015 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:Thanks The_Templar ! Our pashun can now flow freely Rooting for Classic, INnoVation or Life this weekend. I hope the level of play will be astounding, though I expect the lower bracket finalist to get a beatdown. IF (and only IF) sOs gets to final, then the upper bracket finalist will get a beatdown. Because into the final, he would bring 4 baseball bats. Can those 4 bats break the spirit of a herO? Can those 4 bats bring themselves to destroy a true Classic? Can those 4 bats break the metal body of a machine, the epitome of human INnoVation? Can those 4 bats defeat Life itself? Or will he be sending out an sOs because his bats broke? (Find out next time, on Dragonball Blizz) I am pretty sure, if he gets to the final, there is only one player able to beat him in that case and that is InnoVation. herO has no chance, Classic has a little chance, Life has no chance. Wouldn't be so sure. If Life gets to the finals to play sOs he'll have to beat Classic or herO, and both of them are generally a bit better vZ than sOs. They are better, but they are predictable. Life loves chaos, sOs does love it even more. Isn't it odd then that sOs's greatest nemeses are the least chaotic players of each race? INnoVation, Zest and Solar? Shouldn't they have more trouble living through the chaos? If Life gets to the finals with this bracket he's already working miracles, I wouldn't bet against him at that point (not that betting against Life in finals is ever a great idea).
Zest and sOs are pretty even, i think PartinG gives him a tougher time. But to answer your question about inno, (which is also pretty even) their macro too stronk the cheese too flimsy
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On November 05 2015 04:09 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 02:59 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:51 Diabolique wrote:On November 05 2015 02:39 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:37 Diabolique wrote:On November 05 2015 02:34 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:31 Diabolique wrote:On November 04 2015 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:Thanks The_Templar ! Our pashun can now flow freely Rooting for Classic, INnoVation or Life this weekend. I hope the level of play will be astounding, though I expect the lower bracket finalist to get a beatdown. IF (and only IF) sOs gets to final, then the upper bracket finalist will get a beatdown. Because into the final, he would bring 4 baseball bats. Can those 4 bats break the spirit of a herO? Can those 4 bats bring themselves to destroy a true Classic? Can those 4 bats break the metal body of a machine, the epitome of human INnoVation? Can those 4 bats defeat Life itself? Or will he be sending out an sOs because his bats broke? (Find out next time, on Dragonball Blizz) I am pretty sure, if he gets to the final, there is only one player able to beat him in that case and that is InnoVation. herO has no chance, Classic has a little chance, Life has no chance. Wouldn't be so sure. If Life gets to the finals to play sOs he'll have to beat Classic or herO, and both of them are generally a bit better vZ than sOs. They are better, but they are predictable. Life loves chaos, sOs does love it even more. Isn't it odd then that sOs's greatest nemeses are the least chaotic players of each race? INnoVation, Zest and Solar? Shouldn't they have more trouble living through the chaos? If Life gets to the finals with this bracket he's already working miracles, I wouldn't bet against him at that point (not that betting against Life in finals is ever a great idea). Zest and sOs are pretty even, i think PartinG gives him a tougher time. But to answer your question about inno, (which is also pretty even) their macro too stronk the cheese too flimsy
Zest vs sOs is 12-6 in games, 7-4 in series (8-2; 3-0 without PL). INno vs sOs is 16-8 in games, 8-4 in series (12-7; 4-3). PartinG vs sOs is 7-7 in games, 2-4 in series (6-4; 1-1).
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On November 05 2015 01:45 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 01:34 Philozovic wrote:On November 05 2015 00:55 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 00:48 OtherWorld wrote:On November 05 2015 00:38 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 00:29 OtherWorld wrote:On November 05 2015 00:07 Elentos wrote:On November 04 2015 23:54 Philozovic wrote:On November 04 2015 18:31 Elentos wrote:On November 04 2015 18:06 Philozovic wrote:
So OtherWorld if ForGG mech was enough to earn him a DH against life how would you weight Inno chances ? :D
3-0 incoming Under normal circumstances INno only goes mech on Terraform though. Did you watch GSL final and Ro8 Inno vs Byul ? GSL Inno went mech game 1 and 5 and bio game 4 and 6 (2 and 3 were too short to tell he started stimpack in game 3 but to end the game quick I think) SSL he went bio game 1 and 3 IIRC he lost both and went mech game 2 4 and 5 IEM against soO he went mech game 1 and 4 and bio game 2 and 5 (2 rax game 3) The point I was making was about the maps, I probably watched those games more than you think. Out of the maps in the ladder pool he usually only goes mech on Terraform. He could probably go mech on most maps, but he shows pretty clear tendencies for every map. E.g. the only Zerg he went mech against on Coda was ByuL in the GSL finals. A bunch of his mech games were on Echo which isn't in the pool for Blizzcon. He only seems to go mech on Coda and Iron Fortress if he feels threatened enough by his opponent. On November 04 2015 23:31 OtherWorld wrote:On November 04 2015 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:Thanks The_Templar ! Our pashun can now flow freely Rooting for Classic, INnoVation or Life this weekend. I hope the level of play will be astounding, though I expect the lower bracket finalist to get a beatdown. Why? The lower bracket has one 2015 GSL champion and one BlizzCon champion in it... The upper bracket stomped ByuL and Zest. To be fair ByuL played like 2014 ByuL and Zest played like late-2014 Zest To be fair it's not like being the 2013 Blizzcon champion is gonna help sOs much. And the upper bracket players who advanced just looked more impressive and more on point, tbh. So after day 1 it would make sense to say one of herO, Classic, INno or Life will win. I don't know, being the 200K$ man sure gives sOs a mental edge. Players are scared of him. I don't think many players are actually that scared of him. herO I can see, mental scarring and all. On November 05 2015 00:52 Philozovic wrote:On November 05 2015 00:07 Elentos wrote:On November 04 2015 23:54 Philozovic wrote:On November 04 2015 18:31 Elentos wrote:On November 04 2015 18:06 Philozovic wrote:
So OtherWorld if ForGG mech was enough to earn him a DH against life how would you weight Inno chances ? :D
3-0 incoming Under normal circumstances INno only goes mech on Terraform though. Did you watch GSL final and Ro8 Inno vs Byul ? GSL Inno went mech game 1 and 5 and bio game 4 and 6 (2 and 3 were too short to tell he started stimpack in game 3 but to end the game quick I think) SSL he went bio game 1 and 3 IIRC he lost both and went mech game 2 4 and 5 IEM against soO he went mech game 1 and 4 and bio game 2 and 5 (2 rax game 3) The point I was making was about the maps, I probably watched those games more than you think. Out of the maps in the ladder pool he usually only goes mech on Terraform. He could probably go mech on most maps, but he shows pretty clear tendencies for every map. E.g. the only Zerg he went mech against on Coda was ByuL in the GSL finals. A bunch of his mech games were on Echo which isn't in the pool for Blizzcon. He only seems to go mech on Coda and Iron Fortress if he feels threatened enough by his opponent. . So he went mech on VaniResearched station, Coda, Iron Forteress, echo, Terraform (2 times) and Moonlight Madness and bio on Iron Fortress (2 times), Cactus Valley, Coda, Expedition lost and Dash and Terminal over his last 3 BO5/7 series and somewhat he only goes mech on Terraform ? I don't follow the logic here (no pun intended, It's absolutly not an attack, I'm pretty bad at dialoguing trough internet, so If it's sounds cold and all sorry ). I am talking about map specific trends in his play, I'm pretty sure I already said that. And I'm looking at every offline game he played vs Zerg, including bo3 and Proleague. Vaani Research and Echo are completely irrelevant to my point because they're not in the Blizzcon map pool, which is the only one that matters for this conversation. I also specifically said that the only time he went mech vs Zerg on Coda was against ByuL in the GSL finals. And that was a response to the fact that ByuL absolutely destroyed his bio on Coda in SSL. Iron Fortress was also a response to ByuL destroying his bio in that series. He only has 1 offline game on Moonlight Madness against Zerg, which was against his teammate, and that's not conclusive of how he likes to play the map. Same with his only game on Dash and Terminal being Gangnam Terran. So yes, Terraform is the only map in the Blizzcon map pool where it can be safely said he preferably goes mech vs Zerg (unless he goes 2 rax). Unless his opponent is really scary vs bio he keeps the mech in his pocket. For maps that bio and mech are both okay on, that is. If you wants to take maps : Bridgehead : I've never see him play a TvZ on that one so no idea  Cactus Valley : Probably Bio Coda : He played both but given life MLB I see him play mech more than bio Dash and Terminal : Only game I've seen was mech Iron Fortress : Probably bio Moonlight Madness : Only game I've seen was mech Terraform : Mech for sure I'm not saying he is going to mech the 3 games (pun intended) but there is a large margin between that and saying he only goes mech on Terraform, sure it's map specific but his trend the past 3 months seems to tend towards mech more than bio I feel (I haven't seen the series against Hyun and Hydra at MSI MGA so I'm not saying that I'm 100% right). I said under normal circumstances he only goes mech on Terraform. And I said I was talking about trends. As in "This is what he likes to do". Disregarding Bridgehead, Dash and Moonlight because he has almost no games on them and the ones he has were against a teammate. And you know teamkills are never "normal". E.g. On Coda he played bio vs (among others) Hydra, HyuN, Snute, Rogue, Curious, ByuL; and mech only vs ByuL in the GSL finals. By comparison, on Terraform I've never seen him get stimpack. Also read my edit for the other post. Basically, all I'm saying is "On X map INno prefers to do Y but if he deems it appropriate he might do Z instead." and "Only Terraform is always Z." And this isn't necessarily what I want or expect from him, just what he's shown to preferably do.
We pretty much agree then
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On November 05 2015 02:51 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 02:39 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:37 Diabolique wrote:On November 05 2015 02:34 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2015 02:31 Diabolique wrote:On November 04 2015 23:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:Thanks The_Templar ! Our pashun can now flow freely Rooting for Classic, INnoVation or Life this weekend. I hope the level of play will be astounding, though I expect the lower bracket finalist to get a beatdown. IF (and only IF) sOs gets to final, then the upper bracket finalist will get a beatdown. Because into the final, he would bring 4 baseball bats. Can those 4 bats break the spirit of a herO? Can those 4 bats bring themselves to destroy a true Classic? Can those 4 bats break the metal body of a machine, the epitome of human INnoVation? Can those 4 bats defeat Life itself? Or will he be sending out an sOs because his bats broke? (Find out next time, on Dragonball Blizz) I am pretty sure, if he gets to the final, there is only one player able to beat him in that case and that is InnoVation. herO has no chance, Classic has a little chance, Life has no chance. Wouldn't be so sure. If Life gets to the finals to play sOs he'll have to beat Classic or herO, and both of them are generally a bit better vZ than sOs. They are better, but they are predictable. Life loves chaos, sOs does love it even more.
sOs also loves losing to a nydus hydralisk allin followups to a 2 base spire so I don't know lol
Life would clown sOs
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On November 05 2015 00:42 cheekymonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 00:29 ReMinD_ wrote:
Hoping for hero or Life to take it all. Not gonna happen. Life in particular is in ro8 for one reason only.
Being really good?
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On November 05 2015 00:42 cheekymonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 00:29 ReMinD_ wrote:
Hoping for hero or Life to take it all. Not gonna happen. Life in particular is in ro8 for one reason only.
Getting enough WCS points to qualify, and winning his ro16 match?
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37030 Posts
Mah boy Dream is out T-T
But mah boys Classic and INnoVation are still in so LET'S GO SKT!!!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 05 2015 05:50 Seeker wrote:
Mah boy Dream is out T-T
But mah boys Classic and INnoVation are still in so LET'S GO SKT!!!
Are you going to be around for the Blizzcon part of the event too?
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37030 Posts
On November 05 2015 05:52 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 05:50 Seeker wrote:
Mah boy Dream is out T-T
But mah boys Classic and INnoVation are still in so LET'S GO SKT!!! Are you going to be around for the Blizzcon part of the event too?
Sadly, no. I'm already back home in Gainesville.
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On November 05 2015 02:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
When exactly are the archon mode showmatches?
After the quarterfinals
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herO 3-0 
INnoVation 2-3 
Life
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