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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
July 05 2015 17:54 GMT
#1421
On July 06 2015 02:53 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 02:53 Noonius wrote:
I just can't get hyped over zvz


Watch Leifeng, soO vs Dream is incredible.


vs dream?
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
July 05 2015 17:54 GMT
#1422
On July 06 2015 02:52 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 02:51 duckk wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:50 Alchemik wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:49 Solar424 wrote:
Why does Jaedong always make so many spine crawlers? Brood War habits?

you need spines with this style


if you go muta into broodlord yeah, but with ultras it seems a little useless. Then again ultras suck in zvz and broodlords are almost always the better choice as jaedong will probably find out soon.

they really don't suck, and you need spines to hold timings. JD couldn't really be sure Sacsri won't attack


muta ling will delay before the roach hydra queen infestor attack while broodlords is riskier and less mobile. Ultras are absolutely terrible in every aspect of zvz... biggest issue being ai and building walls.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3383 Posts
July 05 2015 17:55 GMT
#1423
funny thing is Ultras won't be better vs broodlings in LotV
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
HEADD
Profile Joined June 2014
Czech Republic611 Posts
July 05 2015 17:55 GMT
#1424
1:0 for JD
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 05 2015 17:55 GMT
#1425
On July 06 2015 02:54 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 02:53 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 Noonius wrote:
I just can't get hyped over zvz


Watch Leifeng, soO vs Dream is incredible.


vs dream?


Yep, soO's on fire atm
Liquipedia"Expert"
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 05 2015 17:55 GMT
#1426
On July 06 2015 02:54 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 02:53 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 Noonius wrote:
I just can't get hyped over zvz


Watch Leifeng, soO vs Dream is incredible.


vs dream?


yep. Incredible 1st game, on Dream/Life best games' lvl
Zest fanboy.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
July 05 2015 17:55 GMT
#1427
JD!!
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
July 05 2015 17:55 GMT
#1428
On July 06 2015 02:54 duckk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 02:52 Alchemik wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:51 duckk wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:50 Alchemik wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:49 Solar424 wrote:
Why does Jaedong always make so many spine crawlers? Brood War habits?

you need spines with this style


if you go muta into broodlord yeah, but with ultras it seems a little useless. Then again ultras suck in zvz and broodlords are almost always the better choice as jaedong will probably find out soon.

they really don't suck, and you need spines to hold timings. JD couldn't really be sure Sacsri won't attack


muta ling will delay before the roach hydra queen infestor attack while broodlords is riskier and less mobile. Ultras are absolutely terrible in every aspect of zvz... biggest issue being ai and building walls.

"muta ling will delay" only if you go mass muta, which means you're delaying your ultras by a LOT and are still vulnerable to timings. AI is something you can micro with, JD didn't micro well that game
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 05 2015 17:56 GMT
#1429
Poll: Recommend Semifinal #1 Game 1?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (4)
 
50%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
 
50%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Semifinal #1 Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 05 2015 17:56 GMT
#1430
JvZ is pretty good.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
July 05 2015 17:56 GMT
#1431
On July 06 2015 02:55 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 02:54 Heartland wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 Noonius wrote:
I just can't get hyped over zvz


Watch Leifeng, soO vs Dream is incredible.


vs dream?


Yep, soO's on fire atm

Absolutely incredible. Felt like 2014 soO once again.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
July 05 2015 17:56 GMT
#1432
On July 06 2015 02:55 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 02:54 Heartland wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 Noonius wrote:
I just can't get hyped over zvz


Watch Leifeng, soO vs Dream is incredible.


vs dream?


yep. Incredible 1st game, on Dream/Life best games' lvl


yeah, but wasn't over being hyped for ZvZ? And Dream is not Z as far as I know
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 05 2015 17:56 GMT
#1433
Dong needs some gunnars haha
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-05 17:56:35
July 05 2015 17:56 GMT
#1434
anyways, JAEDOOOOOOOOOONG

I love you now JD
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
July 05 2015 17:56 GMT
#1435
On July 06 2015 02:56 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 02:55 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:54 Heartland wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 Noonius wrote:
I just can't get hyped over zvz


Watch Leifeng, soO vs Dream is incredible.


vs dream?


yep. Incredible 1st game, on Dream/Life best games' lvl


yeah, but wasn't over being hyped for ZvZ? And Dream is not Z as far as I know


Oh.. now I get it. Sorry
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
July 05 2015 17:56 GMT
#1436
On July 06 2015 02:53 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 02:51 Aeromi wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:50 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:49 Boucot wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:49 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:48 Serimek wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:41 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:40 Serimek wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:39 Boucot wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
[quote]
I like how French scene is trying to get all the pieces together to really begin to play on par with Koreans.

Yeah me too, O'Gaming for the tournaments, Millenium for the training infrastructure/team. Just need a coach now, maybe YoGo or Adel could do the job.


Adel doesn't look to have the right personality to be a manager/coach to be honest.


It's impossible but I'd love to see ToD as a coach.


Yeah, it would be very nice. Llewellys, if he wasn't busy doing other things, could have been a good manager training wise, even though he's no player. He is very dedicated and organized.

On a side note, will new Mill house and O'Gaming studio be close to each other ?


No idea where Mill house is so I can't tell sorry

Levallois


Decently far in terms of distance but just one underground line so ok in terms of travel tme.

Offline Underdogs incoming HYPE

That seems really doable.

I would love to do Underdogs offline final in the Esport arena to be honest.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 05 2015 17:57 GMT
#1437
On July 06 2015 02:56 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 02:55 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:54 Heartland wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 Noonius wrote:
I just can't get hyped over zvz


Watch Leifeng, soO vs Dream is incredible.


vs dream?


yep. Incredible 1st game, on Dream/Life best games' lvl


yeah, but wasn't over being hyped for ZvZ? And Dream is not Z as far as I know


Since Noonius can't get hyped for this ZvZ I advise him to watch the high level tournament going on instead of the party centered one :D
Zest fanboy.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
July 05 2015 17:58 GMT
#1438
On July 06 2015 02:57 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 02:56 Heartland wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:55 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:54 Heartland wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 Noonius wrote:
I just can't get hyped over zvz


Watch Leifeng, soO vs Dream is incredible.


vs dream?


yep. Incredible 1st game, on Dream/Life best games' lvl


yeah, but wasn't over being hyped for ZvZ? And Dream is not Z as far as I know


Since Noonius can't get hyped for this ZvZ I advise him to watch the high level tournament going on instead of the party centered one :D


Yeah, I finally got it : )
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 05 2015 17:58 GMT
#1439
On July 06 2015 02:57 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 02:56 Heartland wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:55 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:54 Heartland wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 sAsImre wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:53 Noonius wrote:
I just can't get hyped over zvz


Watch Leifeng, soO vs Dream is incredible.


vs dream?


yep. Incredible 1st game, on Dream/Life best games' lvl


yeah, but wasn't over being hyped for ZvZ? And Dream is not Z as far as I know


Since Noonius can't get hyped for this ZvZ I advise him to watch the high level tournament going on instead of the party centered one :D

nothing to watch, at this point it's just soO taking a shit on Dream's dead body
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
July 05 2015 17:59 GMT
#1440
On July 06 2015 02:55 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 02:54 duckk wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:52 Alchemik wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:51 duckk wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:50 Alchemik wrote:
On July 06 2015 02:49 Solar424 wrote:
Why does Jaedong always make so many spine crawlers? Brood War habits?

you need spines with this style


if you go muta into broodlord yeah, but with ultras it seems a little useless. Then again ultras suck in zvz and broodlords are almost always the better choice as jaedong will probably find out soon.

they really don't suck, and you need spines to hold timings. JD couldn't really be sure Sacsri won't attack


muta ling will delay before the roach hydra queen infestor attack while broodlords is riskier and less mobile. Ultras are absolutely terrible in every aspect of zvz... biggest issue being ai and building walls.

"muta ling will delay" only if you go mass muta, which means you're delaying your ultras by a LOT and are still vulnerable to timings. AI is something you can micro with, JD didn't micro well that game


fair point, but I do go 40+ mutas before i transition to hive. Good roach hydra control beats ultras pretty badly though and broodlords synergizes with mass muta well. The hydras need to get in range of the broods but cant because of the banes and then i fthey do engage the mutas will always win out. With having 2-0 before their spire is done they are unable to even try to win an air battle. Ultras are good at throwing won games though.
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