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epi
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada115 Posts
June 30 2015 12:01 GMT
#881
Every time I mention that Flash's micro and/or multitask ability are nothing special I get bandwagoned but I think games like this really demonstrate that point. I was a Flash fan in BW and I'm a Flash fan now, but it wasn't because of his micro.
Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
June 30 2015 12:01 GMT
#882
On June 30 2015 20:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Here's the plan. I will switch to terran, learn how to headbash (can't be that hard), go to korea and snipe zest on ladder 24/7 for a few weeks.

You'll probably quit after being stuck in Masters or something and getting frustrated at the TvT mirror (or Protoss imba as usual)
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sOs fan. Zerg just seem to have the most...potential. Dubbo Robo Colo! Why I play Protoss: Stalkers, bacon, toilets and mama -- Chelsea FC
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
June 30 2015 12:02 GMT
#883
I saw Maru - Sora, Myungsik - Journey, Dear - soO... Where to find the rest of the upcomng S2SL matches ?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
June 30 2015 12:02 GMT
#884
On June 30 2015 20:59 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 20:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:50 Makro wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:49 c0ldfusion wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:49 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:48 c0ldfusion wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:47 MarianoSC2 wrote:
KT worst coaches confirmed...

Maru can be beaten in TvT only by super duper cheese build. TY actually could do it maybe.
Flash? Never. Maru TvT is simply Godlike. He is a player of a completely different caliber

What choice did they have? Zest, Stats and Life are all down.


They should have sent TY in stead of Stats and Pray. This was just a donated game to Jin Air

TY just wasn't ready for the level of pressure according to Wolf.

you just can't rely on wolf

yeah its ridiculous, if you 2 rax someone in the final of proleague you are ready for that kind of pressure, easy as that


The lineup was fixed and he had time to prepare, very different situation. I agree with others that TY doesn't look that good when he is not given time to prepare.

Just have him prepare as a backup specifically against Maru. Every time. TY, Stats and Life have the best map records against Maru, one of them didn't get to play. Plus TY has winning records against Trap and Cure aswell and one of those probably would have been the 4th pick for Jin Air.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 30 2015 12:03 GMT
#885
On June 30 2015 20:59 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 20:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:50 Makro wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:49 c0ldfusion wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:49 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:48 c0ldfusion wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:47 MarianoSC2 wrote:
KT worst coaches confirmed...

Maru can be beaten in TvT only by super duper cheese build. TY actually could do it maybe.
Flash? Never. Maru TvT is simply Godlike. He is a player of a completely different caliber

What choice did they have? Zest, Stats and Life are all down.


They should have sent TY in stead of Stats and Pray. This was just a donated game to Jin Air

TY just wasn't ready for the level of pressure according to Wolf.

you just can't rely on wolf

yeah its ridiculous, if you 2 rax someone in the final of proleague you are ready for that kind of pressure, easy as that


The lineup was fixed and he had time to prepare, very different situation. I agree with others that TY doesn't look that good when he is not given time to prepare.

Yeah but I mean when KT is facing Maru it's a matter of basic survival. Sending Zest first was a great call since he got 2 kills on the two best JAGW players behind Maru, then he lost to Maru as expected I guess, and when KT is in this situation it should be a "Kill Maru" mindset. Which means not sending out additional Protosses, who are just basic food for Maru, but playing on Maru's weakest MUs (relatively), TvT and TvZ. Basically it means sending, in order, TY/FlaSh/Life.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
June 30 2015 12:05 GMT
#886
On June 30 2015 21:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I saw Maru - Sora, Myungsik - Journey, Dear - soO... Where to find the rest of the upcomng S2SL matches ?

Maru always has lucky draws in these... but Dear vs soO :O
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
June 30 2015 12:06 GMT
#887
On June 30 2015 20:58 dazed25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 20:56 Silvana wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:51 Makro wrote:
so actually the closest game we had against maru was zest

ma boi


I see... gotta find comfort somewhere

On June 30 2015 20:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I blame Life


Me too. I keep thinking vT is the reason KT got him and he's not performing


i blame KT coaches for horrible game planning and sucking the talent out of all our players.


yeah me too. I usually don't jump in the hate train that fast but this has been happening for a long time now. Even First and Super looked better than now and they're not playing PL.

Sorry HOT I like you, but you suck. Hoejja back pls or someone to save us
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 30 2015 12:06 GMT
#888
On June 30 2015 20:59 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 20:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:50 Makro wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:49 c0ldfusion wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:49 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:48 c0ldfusion wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:47 MarianoSC2 wrote:
KT worst coaches confirmed...

Maru can be beaten in TvT only by super duper cheese build. TY actually could do it maybe.
Flash? Never. Maru TvT is simply Godlike. He is a player of a completely different caliber

What choice did they have? Zest, Stats and Life are all down.


They should have sent TY in stead of Stats and Pray. This was just a donated game to Jin Air

TY just wasn't ready for the level of pressure according to Wolf.

you just can't rely on wolf

yeah its ridiculous, if you 2 rax someone in the final of proleague you are ready for that kind of pressure, easy as that


The lineup was fixed and he had time to prepare, very different situation. I agree with others that TY doesn't look that good when he is not given time to prepare.

Didn't he just qualify for something while beating pretty good players?
I don't agree with this notion at all, he may be somewhat inconsistent, but if he is on form he plays extremely well (cause his micro and multitasking are ridiculous)
Flash on the other hand is bad in both (if you compare it to actually good ones like Maru)
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
June 30 2015 12:06 GMT
#889
On June 30 2015 21:05 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 21:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I saw Maru - Sora, Myungsik - Journey, Dear - soO... Where to find the rest of the upcomng S2SL matches ?

Maru always has lucky draws in these... but Dear vs soO :O

It will bring back great memories but neither Dear nor soO are the players they were when they met in the GSL finals. Arguably Dear has fallen far lower.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
June 30 2015 12:06 GMT
#890
What I don't understand is why they don't have anyone ready with a snipe build for Maru. Everyone else is more than beatable in standard games for KT.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 30 2015 12:07 GMT
#891
On June 30 2015 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What I don't understand is why they don't have anyone ready with a snipe build for Maru. Everyone else is more than beatable in standard games for KT.

because KT coach
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
June 30 2015 12:07 GMT
#892
On June 30 2015 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What I don't understand is why they don't have anyone ready with a snipe build for Maru. Everyone else is more than beatable in standard games for KT.

That splendid wall-in into proxy Stargate build on Vaani was probably the best thing they could come up with.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
June 30 2015 12:07 GMT
#893
On June 30 2015 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What I don't understand is why they don't have anyone ready with a snipe build for Maru. Everyone else is more than beatable in standard games for KT.


Because when you have a lineup consisting of Stats, Zest, Life, TY and Flash you stop thinking as a coach lol
elwood.sc2
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany35 Posts
June 30 2015 12:08 GMT
#894
JinAir!!! Thanks Maru!
sOs - Dear - Maru - Life - Soulkey ### "The void claims its own."
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
June 30 2015 12:08 GMT
#895
Ah, no 2nd sOs all kill. Maru is pretty good too I guess ^_^ I wonder who it'll be next time?
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-30 12:10:22
June 30 2015 12:09 GMT
#896
On June 30 2015 21:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What I don't understand is why they don't have anyone ready with a snipe build for Maru. Everyone else is more than beatable in standard games for KT.

That splendid wall-in into proxy Stargate build on Vaani was probably the best thing they could come up with.

Stats' original plan was proxy colossus with range but he abandoned it when he realised Maru eats colossi for breakfast.

In all seriousness, Life has been their attempt to snipe Maru twice, he lost both games (although Maru also was his sniper with the mech build on EL). Time for a non-Protoss backup. And TY excels at map-specific snipes.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
June 30 2015 12:11 GMT
#897
On June 30 2015 21:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What I don't understand is why they don't have anyone ready with a snipe build for Maru. Everyone else is more than beatable in standard games for KT.

That splendid wall-in into proxy Stargate build on Vaani was probably the best thing they could come up with.


while that could have worked given a few extra seconds I feel like Stats was the worst player to attempt that. Maru is always on guard against him for hidden nexi and proxy shenanigans after that PL loss last year.
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
June 30 2015 12:12 GMT
#898
On June 30 2015 21:07 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What I don't understand is why they don't have anyone ready with a snipe build for Maru. Everyone else is more than beatable in standard games for KT.


Because when you have a lineup consisting of Stats, Zest, Life, TY and Flash you stop thinking as a coach lol


or maybe start overcoaching instead of butting out and letting your players do the job.
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
June 30 2015 12:12 GMT
#899
On June 30 2015 21:03 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 20:59 Silvana wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:50 Makro wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:49 c0ldfusion wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:49 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:48 c0ldfusion wrote:
On June 30 2015 20:47 MarianoSC2 wrote:
KT worst coaches confirmed...

Maru can be beaten in TvT only by super duper cheese build. TY actually could do it maybe.
Flash? Never. Maru TvT is simply Godlike. He is a player of a completely different caliber

What choice did they have? Zest, Stats and Life are all down.


They should have sent TY in stead of Stats and Pray. This was just a donated game to Jin Air

TY just wasn't ready for the level of pressure according to Wolf.

you just can't rely on wolf

yeah its ridiculous, if you 2 rax someone in the final of proleague you are ready for that kind of pressure, easy as that


The lineup was fixed and he had time to prepare, very different situation. I agree with others that TY doesn't look that good when he is not given time to prepare.

Yeah but I mean when KT is facing Maru it's a matter of basic survival. Sending Zest first was a great call since he got 2 kills on the two best JAGW players behind Maru, then he lost to Maru as expected I guess, and when KT is in this situation it should be a "Kill Maru" mindset. Which means not sending out additional Protosses, who are just basic food for Maru, but playing on Maru's weakest MUs (relatively), TvT and TvZ. Basically it means sending, in order, TY/FlaSh/Life.


I agree with this 100%.

On June 30 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Didn't he just qualify for something while beating pretty good players?
I don't agree with this notion at all, he may be somewhat inconsistent, but if he is on form he plays extremely well (cause his micro and multitasking are ridiculous)
Flash on the other hand is bad in both (if you compare it to actually good ones like Maru)


Again qualifiers are a different situation than a playoff PL match.

What they should do imo is prepare TY to snipe Maru and play him asap, because it seems he can't handle the pressure of being the 4th man.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
June 30 2015 12:13 GMT
#900
If KT just had a top level PvTer they'd be basically unstoppable.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
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