EPT[SPL] Semifinals Round 3 2015 - Page 45
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epi
Canada115 Posts
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Roadog
Canada1670 Posts
On June 30 2015 20:56 DarkLordOlli wrote: Here's the plan. I will switch to terran, learn how to headbash (can't be that hard), go to korea and snipe zest on ladder 24/7 for a few weeks. You'll probably quit after being stuck in Masters or something and getting frustrated at the TvT mirror (or Protoss imba as usual) + Show Spoiler + SjoW | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
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Elentos
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On June 30 2015 20:59 Silvana wrote: The lineup was fixed and he had time to prepare, very different situation. I agree with others that TY doesn't look that good when he is not given time to prepare. Just have him prepare as a backup specifically against Maru. Every time. TY, Stats and Life have the best map records against Maru, one of them didn't get to play. Plus TY has winning records against Trap and Cure aswell and one of those probably would have been the 4th pick for Jin Air. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On June 30 2015 20:59 Silvana wrote: The lineup was fixed and he had time to prepare, very different situation. I agree with others that TY doesn't look that good when he is not given time to prepare. Yeah but I mean when KT is facing Maru it's a matter of basic survival. Sending Zest first was a great call since he got 2 kills on the two best JAGW players behind Maru, then he lost to Maru as expected I guess, and when KT is in this situation it should be a "Kill Maru" mindset. Which means not sending out additional Protosses, who are just basic food for Maru, but playing on Maru's weakest MUs (relatively), TvT and TvZ. Basically it means sending, in order, TY/FlaSh/Life. | ||
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On June 30 2015 21:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: I saw Maru - Sora, Myungsik - Journey, Dear - soO... Where to find the rest of the upcomng S2SL matches ? Maru always has lucky draws in these... but Dear vs soO :O | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On June 30 2015 20:58 dazed25 wrote: i blame KT coaches for horrible game planning and sucking the talent out of all our players. yeah me too. I usually don't jump in the hate train that fast but this has been happening for a long time now. Even First and Super looked better than now and they're not playing PL. Sorry HOT I like you, but you suck. Hoejja back pls or someone to save us  | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On June 30 2015 20:59 Silvana wrote: The lineup was fixed and he had time to prepare, very different situation. I agree with others that TY doesn't look that good when he is not given time to prepare. Didn't he just qualify for something while beating pretty good players? I don't agree with this notion at all, he may be somewhat inconsistent, but if he is on form he plays extremely well (cause his micro and multitasking are ridiculous) Flash on the other hand is bad in both (if you compare it to actually good ones like Maru) | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
On June 30 2015 21:05 Elentos wrote: Maru always has lucky draws in these... but Dear vs soO :O It will bring back great memories but neither Dear nor soO are the players they were when they met in the GSL finals. Arguably Dear has fallen far lower. | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On June 30 2015 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote: What I don't understand is why they don't have anyone ready with a snipe build for Maru. Everyone else is more than beatable in standard games for KT. because KT coach | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
On June 30 2015 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote: What I don't understand is why they don't have anyone ready with a snipe build for Maru. Everyone else is more than beatable in standard games for KT. That splendid wall-in into proxy Stargate build on Vaani was probably the best thing they could come up with. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18385 Posts
On June 30 2015 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote: What I don't understand is why they don't have anyone ready with a snipe build for Maru. Everyone else is more than beatable in standard games for KT. Because when you have a lineup consisting of Stats, Zest, Life, TY and Flash you stop thinking as a coach lol | ||
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elwood.sc2
Germany35 Posts
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On June 30 2015 21:07 [PkF] Wire wrote: That splendid wall-in into proxy Stargate build on Vaani was probably the best thing they could come up with. Stats' original plan was proxy colossus with range but he abandoned it when he realised Maru eats colossi for breakfast. In all seriousness, Life has been their attempt to snipe Maru twice, he lost both games (although Maru also was his sniper with the mech build on EL). Time for a non-Protoss backup. And TY excels at map-specific snipes. | ||
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dazed25
3566 Posts
On June 30 2015 21:07 [PkF] Wire wrote: That splendid wall-in into proxy Stargate build on Vaani was probably the best thing they could come up with. while that could have worked given a few extra seconds I feel like Stats was the worst player to attempt that. Maru is always on guard against him for hidden nexi and proxy shenanigans after that PL loss last year. | ||
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dazed25
3566 Posts
On June 30 2015 21:07 sharkie wrote: Because when you have a lineup consisting of Stats, Zest, Life, TY and Flash you stop thinking as a coach lol or maybe start overcoaching instead of butting out and letting your players do the job. | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On June 30 2015 21:03 OtherWorld wrote: Yeah but I mean when KT is facing Maru it's a matter of basic survival. Sending Zest first was a great call since he got 2 kills on the two best JAGW players behind Maru, then he lost to Maru as expected I guess, and when KT is in this situation it should be a "Kill Maru" mindset. Which means not sending out additional Protosses, who are just basic food for Maru, but playing on Maru's weakest MUs (relatively), TvT and TvZ. Basically it means sending, in order, TY/FlaSh/Life. I agree with this 100%. On June 30 2015 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote: Didn't he just qualify for something while beating pretty good players? I don't agree with this notion at all, he may be somewhat inconsistent, but if he is on form he plays extremely well (cause his micro and multitasking are ridiculous) Flash on the other hand is bad in both (if you compare it to actually good ones like Maru) Again qualifiers are a different situation than a playoff PL match. What they should do imo is prepare TY to snipe Maru and play him asap, because it seems he can't handle the pressure of being the 4th man. | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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