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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 20 2015 11:53 GMT
#921
On June 20 2015 20:51 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 20:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Impressive preparation from Classic, allowing him to now rank among the greatest champions of our time with 1 GSL and 1 S2SL. The preparation was unbelievably good, even if he lost on Deadwing it felt like he knew what Dream would do in advance 95% of the time, he showed good preparation on Vaani too (the zealot !) and obviously his proxy stargate build was damn strong against the greedy style of Dream.

That being said, I don't disagree with those saying the better player skillwise lost. Dream should have either scouted more thoroughly or entered the mindgames with more power than he did. I think his pride (I don't need to scout you, I just need to reach the midgame and I'll crush you, which I'm pretty sure is what happens between those two in practice) ended up being his demise.

I hope Dream can recover from this and does not end up being another soO. Those guys deserve victories.

He probably should stop the manner crap too

tbh since it's a teamkill you can never know, maybe he's used to mannering Classic in practice games or he knows he's weak mentally to manner CCs
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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
June 20 2015 11:54 GMT
#922
Everything went as it should.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
June 20 2015 11:55 GMT
#923
soO vs Dream showmatch! Gogogo!
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
June 20 2015 11:57 GMT
#924
On June 20 2015 20:53 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 20:51 Penev wrote:
On June 20 2015 20:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Impressive preparation from Classic, allowing him to now rank among the greatest champions of our time with 1 GSL and 1 S2SL. The preparation was unbelievably good, even if he lost on Deadwing it felt like he knew what Dream would do in advance 95% of the time, he showed good preparation on Vaani too (the zealot !) and obviously his proxy stargate build was damn strong against the greedy style of Dream.

That being said, I don't disagree with those saying the better player skillwise lost. Dream should have either scouted more thoroughly or entered the mindgames with more power than he did. I think his pride (I don't need to scout you, I just need to reach the midgame and I'll crush you, which I'm pretty sure is what happens between those two in practice) ended up being his demise.

I hope Dream can recover from this and does not end up being another soO. Those guys deserve victories.

He probably should stop the manner crap too

tbh since it's a teamkill you can never know, maybe he's used to mannering Classic in practice games or he knows he's weak mentally to manner CCs

I wasn't too serious with it though I think the manner thing often even shows weakness actually, not domination. And when done too early, like in this case, it can back fire.

I would know too; I'm up there with Wolf when it comes to reading eyes
I Protoss winner, could it be?
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 20 2015 12:00 GMT
#925
On June 20 2015 20:57 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 20:53 OtherWorld wrote:
On June 20 2015 20:51 Penev wrote:
On June 20 2015 20:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Impressive preparation from Classic, allowing him to now rank among the greatest champions of our time with 1 GSL and 1 S2SL. The preparation was unbelievably good, even if he lost on Deadwing it felt like he knew what Dream would do in advance 95% of the time, he showed good preparation on Vaani too (the zealot !) and obviously his proxy stargate build was damn strong against the greedy style of Dream.

That being said, I don't disagree with those saying the better player skillwise lost. Dream should have either scouted more thoroughly or entered the mindgames with more power than he did. I think his pride (I don't need to scout you, I just need to reach the midgame and I'll crush you, which I'm pretty sure is what happens between those two in practice) ended up being his demise.

I hope Dream can recover from this and does not end up being another soO. Those guys deserve victories.

He probably should stop the manner crap too

tbh since it's a teamkill you can never know, maybe he's used to mannering Classic in practice games or he knows he's weak mentally to manner CCs

I wasn't too serious with it though I think the manner thing often even shows weakness actually, not domination. And when done too early, like in this case, it can back fire.

I would know too; I'm up there with Wolf when it comes to reading eyes

Hehe, eyes reading is a useful talent toi have
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 20 2015 12:07 GMT
#926
so happy classic smashed dream, terran tears are the best flavor of tears
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 20 2015 12:16 GMT
#927
STX too strong, gg
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
20-Minute-Jackal
Profile Joined May 2015
United States336 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-20 12:22:21
June 20 2015 12:17 GMT
#928
Classic must be really popular at the SKT house right now. Also, I'm wondering how Dream is adjusting to the life of a kong, at least he has soO there to help him out.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
June 20 2015 12:21 GMT
#929
On June 20 2015 21:17 20-Minute-Jackal wrote:
Classic must be really popular at the SKT house right now. Also, I'm wondering how Dream is adjusting to the life of a kong now, at least he has soO there to help him out.

If he beats Dark, pretty much everyone will have a reason to hate him.
Writermaru pls
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
June 20 2015 12:43 GMT
#930
There is an intriguing fact about SKT T1 and his players:

Inno: 1 silver
soO: 4 silvers
Dream: 2 silvers
SKT: 1 silver (in PL)

IS SKT T1 THE KONG TEAM?
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
June 20 2015 12:45 GMT
#931
On June 20 2015 21:43 Apoteosis wrote:
There is an intriguing fact about SKT T1 and his players:

Inno: 1 silver
soO: 4 silvers
Dream: 2 silvers
SKT: 1 silver (in PL)

IS SKT T1 THE KONG TEAM?


Well... Also count the golds and then it's just an incredible tournament team
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 20 2015 12:48 GMT
#932
On June 20 2015 19:28 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 19:27 Zealously wrote:
My only real casting pet peeve is the preemptive talk of nervousness, tilting and slumping. I understand casters might feel a need to say something to dramatize, but taking this game and extrapolating all that from Classic's eyes is stupid.





Wolf knew after game 2 Classic was having no more of Dream's shit
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
June 20 2015 12:50 GMT
#933
On June 20 2015 21:48 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 19:28 Musicus wrote:
On June 20 2015 19:27 Zealously wrote:
My only real casting pet peeve is the preemptive talk of nervousness, tilting and slumping. I understand casters might feel a need to say something to dramatize, but taking this game and extrapolating all that from Classic's eyes is stupid.


https://twitter.com/proxywolf/status/612204822792548352


Wolf knew after game 2 Classic was having no more of Dream's shit

I felt it as well, totally predicted the Oracles and the Rotti build

it was in his eyes
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 20 2015 13:20 GMT
#934
God dammit Starcraft 2. If you ever want to make me happy again just let me know
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 20 2015 13:33 GMT
#935
Wow didn't expect that, gz classic i guess.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 20 2015 13:36 GMT
#936
This was a really fun finals. I did not feel very invested into neither player, so I just watched for fun and hell some games really delivered! Dream seems to have a general weakness in the early game and he needs to learn the shit out of this finals if he wants to be a real champion - because starcraft is not played as a competition in spending koefficient of your glorious macro, but in winning games. Also to him applies what I have said lately for several other people: if you are not X, you should not try to play like X - in this case X=Maru and Dream needs to build a second starport when faced with 5 colosses.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
June 20 2015 13:46 GMT
#937
Who else finds it funny that Dream lost practically in the same way herO lost to Dream? (Early aggression)
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
June 20 2015 15:00 GMT
#938
sick game 3. Classic's oracle control is beautiful
rip passion
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
June 20 2015 15:06 GMT
#939
g4 proxy tempest haha. It's pretty genius

rip passion
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
June 20 2015 15:16 GMT
#940
Classic was one of the late period BW players with the most potential but he had to be confident to find it. I remember one game in particular where he seemed to gain confidence halfway through and turn it from an almost certain defeat into an impressive victory. Even when he won gold in SC2 people were shitting on him saying he probably didn't deserve it, but they don't know the real story. Preparation was a key part of this victory because it gave him room to be confident.
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