• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:28
CEST 22:28
KST 05:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview5TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection5Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2
Community News
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June0Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th151Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League6
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview What kind of tool would you be interested in? TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
FlaSh's ASL S21 Finals Review BW animated web series: seeking contributors 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event The Korean Terminology Thread
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How cold is too cold to be outdoors?
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Esportsmanship: How to NOT B…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6369 users

[WCS] Premier Ro32 Group B - Season 2 2015 - Page 20

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 39 Next All
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
May 17 2015 21:26 GMT
#381
ENGLISH? O__O
rip passion
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
May 17 2015 21:26 GMT
#382
On May 18 2015 06:25 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I think Sen is a fairly good player, Stardust is going to have a tough time of he perform at a higher level in that losers-series

Stardust barely eeked past NA WCS qualifier and Huk, and PvP was usually one of his stronger match ups. I'd probably favour huk over stardust in this group lol
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
May 17 2015 21:27 GMT
#383
4gg will complete the day by destroying the last zerg scum
rip passion
NaboliC
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden130 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 21:28:14
May 17 2015 21:27 GMT
#384
On May 18 2015 06:22 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:20 NaboliC wrote:
Wonder why zerg players lose every time to small pushes from start from a player they know. Everyone knows that ForGG plays like this, just open roaches then? And make some extra spores vs probable mass banshees? This is not the hard part of this game, ok? Some zerg-players are just not good.


no need to flame life. he isn't even playing today.

To lose vs him isn't the same as losing to the same tactics over and over.


On May 18 2015 06:22 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:20 NaboliC wrote:
Wonder why zerg players lose every time to small pushes from start from a player they know. Everyone knows that ForGG plays like this, just open roaches then? And make some extra spores vs probable mass banshees? This is not the hard part of this game, ok? Some zerg-players are just not good.

You must be mistaken, you actually dont have to do a lot of direct damage at any point in the game with forGG's style

But ForGG does that with banshees and hellions. If you know with 80% that he does this, than prepare the spores when he ads additionally two banshees and don't lose 8 queens. This is on pro level and I don't accept that.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 17 2015 21:27 GMT
#385
Oh it's loser's match first. WCS - the hype killer
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
May 17 2015 21:27 GMT
#386
On May 18 2015 06:26 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
forgg's shorts

yeah ahahah
ForGG. 29/11/2014
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 21:28:53
May 17 2015 21:28 GMT
#387
On May 18 2015 06:27 NaboliC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:22 stuchiu wrote:
On May 18 2015 06:20 NaboliC wrote:
Wonder why zerg players lose every time to small pushes from start from a player they know. Everyone knows that ForGG plays like this, just open roaches then? And make some extra spores vs probable mass banshees? This is not the hard part of this game, ok? Some zerg-players are just not good.


no need to flame life. he isn't even playing today.

To lose vs him isn't the same as losing to the same tactics a lot of times.


In his last 4 games vs Bbyong, Life lost to the exact same hellbat timing.
Moderator
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 17 2015 21:29 GMT
#388
time to watch cs go in the break
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 21:30:39
May 17 2015 21:30 GMT
#389
The fast third style vs T is just so hard to defend now with all the buff T received : hellbat/banshee, and no SH anymore to prevent this kind of mech slow push, or to try to come back when behind, so nearly everyone plays 2 base mutas vs T.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 17 2015 21:30 GMT
#390
On May 18 2015 06:26 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:25 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I think Sen is a fairly good player, Stardust is going to have a tough time of he perform at a higher level in that losers-series

Stardust barely eeked past NA WCS qualifier and Huk, and PvP was usually one of his stronger match ups. I'd probably favour huk over stardust in this group lol


Nah, Huk is a pretty terrible player atm. He really hasn't been good since WOL
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 17 2015 21:31 GMT
#391
Is there anyone that prefers loser's match first? I don't get the reason why they have it. Unless I'm following a certain player, it really kills the hype for the group.

It sucks even more because of the bad broadcast times, it's time to sleep for us europeans! :D
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
May 17 2015 21:32 GMT
#392
On May 18 2015 06:27 NaboliC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:22 stuchiu wrote:
On May 18 2015 06:20 NaboliC wrote:
Wonder why zerg players lose every time to small pushes from start from a player they know. Everyone knows that ForGG plays like this, just open roaches then? And make some extra spores vs probable mass banshees? This is not the hard part of this game, ok? Some zerg-players are just not good.


no need to flame life. he isn't even playing today.

To lose vs him isn't the same as losing to the same tactics a lot of times.


Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:22 Aocowns wrote:
On May 18 2015 06:20 NaboliC wrote:
Wonder why zerg players lose every time to small pushes from start from a player they know. Everyone knows that ForGG plays like this, just open roaches then? And make some extra spores vs probable mass banshees? This is not the hard part of this game, ok? Some zerg-players are just not good.

You must be mistaken, you actually dont have to do a lot of direct damage at any point in the game with forGG's style

But ForGG does that with banshees and hellions. If you know with 80% that he does this, than prepare the spores when he ads additionally two banshees and don't lose 8 queens. This is on pro level and I don't except that.

So what you are prepared, you now have 9 drones less cus of spores, delayed upgrades cus of a faster Lair, and your creep is contained. and that's assuming you defended the lethal pressure of marine medievac hellbat without losing more than a queen or 2, cus you actually need to constantly queue queens in order to come out of that okay, and unless your crisis management is amazing you will fuck up and either make a lair without additional queens, or queue up queens and not get a lair

Barring a perfect hold, which is largely impossible against a player with as much experience as forgg, and as good control as forgg, you will be fucked in some way no matter what

Okay, so lets assume the hellbat medievac marine, and banshee follow up did minimal ish damage. You now have shit creep spread, feel forced to go muta to counter the 3-4 banshees, and if you are lucky you have decentish upgrades going, at least enough to rival the terran upgrades. CONGRATS YOU'RE NOW ON EVEN FOOTING, HOPE YOU'RE GOOD AGAINST MECH
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 21:35:21
May 17 2015 21:33 GMT
#393
One one side of the studio, Nate is talking to fans and saying "I wish the Zergs I played on ladder were that greedy:, and on the other side, I hear Gretorp telling Sen "No, you were still ahead on workers at that point" And "the Medivac give him too much heal".
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
May 17 2015 21:34 GMT
#394
On May 18 2015 06:30 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:26 Aocowns wrote:
On May 18 2015 06:25 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I think Sen is a fairly good player, Stardust is going to have a tough time of he perform at a higher level in that losers-series

Stardust barely eeked past NA WCS qualifier and Huk, and PvP was usually one of his stronger match ups. I'd probably favour huk over stardust in this group lol


Nah, Huk is a pretty terrible player atm. He really hasn't been good since WOL

yeah fair enough, point is, stardust is pretty shit right now as well. But hey, there's always the great protoss book of bullshit
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 17 2015 21:34 GMT
#395
On May 18 2015 06:31 DJHelium wrote:
Is there anyone that prefers loser's match first? I don't get the reason why they have it. Unless I'm following a certain player, it really kills the hype for the group.

It sucks even more because of the bad broadcast times, it's time to sleep for us europeans! :D

The most important matches are played last. I understand why they do it and I don't mind.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 17 2015 21:35 GMT
#396
On May 18 2015 06:33 Circumstance wrote:
One one side of the studio, Nate is talking to fans and saying "I wish the Zergs I played on ladder were that greedy:, and on the other side, I hear Gretorp telling Sen "No, you were still ahead on workers at that point" And "the Medical give him too much heal".

wait you're there?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
May 17 2015 21:35 GMT
#397
On May 18 2015 06:31 DJHelium wrote:
Is there anyone that prefers loser's match first? I don't get the reason why they have it. Unless I'm following a certain player, it really kills the hype for the group.

It sucks even more because of the bad broadcast times, it's time to sleep for us europeans! :D


Maybe the winners since the winner of the 2nd pair gets more time to rest/prepare? I dunno. As a viewer I certainly prefer seeing the winners' match first.
<3 BaseTradeTV <3
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
May 17 2015 21:36 GMT
#398
On May 18 2015 06:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:33 Circumstance wrote:
One one side of the studio, Nate is talking to fans and saying "I wish the Zergs I played on ladder were that greedy:, and on the other side, I hear Gretorp telling Sen "No, you were still ahead on workers at that point" And "the Medical give him too much heal".

wait you're there?

I've mentioned this before, I live about 45 minutes from the studio.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 17 2015 21:37 GMT
#399
On May 18 2015 06:36 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 06:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On May 18 2015 06:33 Circumstance wrote:
One one side of the studio, Nate is talking to fans and saying "I wish the Zergs I played on ladder were that greedy:, and on the other side, I hear Gretorp telling Sen "No, you were still ahead on workers at that point" And "the Medical give him too much heal".

wait you're there?

I've mentioned this before, I live about 45 minutes from the studio.

oh shit that's awesome.

wish they did wcs in the city here tho, would def take the train to watch live
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 21:37:32
May 17 2015 21:37 GMT
#400

nate showing off his sbenus like a grill
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
Grand Finals
Bonyth vs Dewalt
ZZZero.O517
LiquipediaDiscussion
Patches Events
18:00
Patch Clash #7.5
RotterdaM741
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 741
SteadfastSC 407
Railgan 96
ProTech85
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 517
Free 42
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Doublelift2725
JimRising 186
Counter-Strike
fl0m8779
xp33
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu362
Khaldor177
Other Games
FrodaN3938
Grubby3137
C9.Mang0806
B2W.Neo784
Mlord583
mouzStarbuck287
KnowMe139
ArmadaUGS102
UpATreeSC40
Mew2King25
OptimusSC216
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1023
gamesdonequick702
BasetradeTV200
StarCraft 2
angryscii 51
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Response 1
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota273
Other Games
• imaqtpie800
• WagamamaTV342
• Shiphtur179
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 32m
Wardi Open
14h 32m
Monday Night Weeklies
19h 32m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
Classic vs Lambo
Clem vs Maru
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
3 days
Serral vs Rogue
herO vs SHIN
Replay Cast
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KK 2v2 League Season 1
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Heroes Pulsing #3
Heroes Pulsing #2
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.