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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 08 2015 16:00 GMT
#601
On May 09 2015 00:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 00:57 Musicus wrote:
On May 09 2015 00:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 09 2015 00:52 Musicus wrote:
On May 09 2015 00:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 09 2015 00:47 royalroadweed wrote:
These kinds of games makes me wonder why storm isn't used more often vs zerg.


Roaches don't really care about storm. It's great vs lings, hydras and as support vs corruptors, but not much else.


2 storms still kill a roach though, and if it makes the opponent burrow that's less dps. As a zerg always shed tears when I hear Protoss claim storm does nothing to roaches :D. I think we will see more HTs from Protoss, without mass locusts to zone them out.

Of course going straight to Hts without a robo vs mass roach is not great if that's what you mean.


It's not necessarily bad vs roaches if you have a lot of stuff to back it up, but you do need that stuff first. With how gas heavy templar and storm research are, you're far far better off opening mass blink stalker/sentry/immortal while upgrading and teching slowly.


Of course, I fully agree. But when you do have HTs in the late game, behind a beefy army, they do actually wreck everything besides Ultras. Saying they are only good vs Hydra/Ling and maybe stacked up corruptrs is a bit much .


As the main tech option I meant! But yeah, there's basically no situation where I wouldn't want storm to support my army, except lategame PvP.


Yeah straight hts was only viable vs terran with chargelots I guess, but that's dead too since that widow mine patch :/.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 08 2015 16:00 GMT
#602
Rogue also had used some creative roach burrowed harass while transitioning to fast bl army. You need to delay and harass mineral lines though. If this is the case its very difficult for the Protoss player to get value from the templar based composition, particularly if the full bl army is able to get out.
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
May 08 2015 16:01 GMT
#603
On May 09 2015 00:59 royalroadweed wrote:
Fanatsy on wardii.

Fantasy*
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
May 08 2015 16:01 GMT
#604
I suppose I missed a lot by sticking to the main stream, how's it going so far?
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 08 2015 16:01 GMT
#605
On May 09 2015 01:01 The_Templar wrote:
I suppose I missed a lot by sticking to the main stream, how's it going so far?

Zerg sucks vs Protoss, unless you're Bly. Thanks how it's going.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 08 2015 16:02 GMT
#606
I believe it's the first TvP match I see from ForGG in 2015.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 08 2015 16:03 GMT
#607
ptitdrogo doing well considering it's forgg
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 08 2015 16:03 GMT
#608
On May 09 2015 01:00 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 00:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 09 2015 00:57 Musicus wrote:
On May 09 2015 00:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 09 2015 00:52 Musicus wrote:
On May 09 2015 00:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 09 2015 00:47 royalroadweed wrote:
These kinds of games makes me wonder why storm isn't used more often vs zerg.


Roaches don't really care about storm. It's great vs lings, hydras and as support vs corruptors, but not much else.


2 storms still kill a roach though, and if it makes the opponent burrow that's less dps. As a zerg always shed tears when I hear Protoss claim storm does nothing to roaches :D. I think we will see more HTs from Protoss, without mass locusts to zone them out.

Of course going straight to Hts without a robo vs mass roach is not great if that's what you mean.


It's not necessarily bad vs roaches if you have a lot of stuff to back it up, but you do need that stuff first. With how gas heavy templar and storm research are, you're far far better off opening mass blink stalker/sentry/immortal while upgrading and teching slowly.


Of course, I fully agree. But when you do have HTs in the late game, behind a beefy army, they do actually wreck everything besides Ultras. Saying they are only good vs Hydra/Ling and maybe stacked up corruptrs is a bit much .


As the main tech option I meant! But yeah, there's basically no situation where I wouldn't want storm to support my army, except lategame PvP.


Yeah straight hts was only viable vs terran with chargelots I guess, but that's dead too since that widow mine patch :/.


That goddamn patch. It killed my PvT for half a year until I learned how to play colossus builds.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 08 2015 16:04 GMT
#609
On May 09 2015 01:01 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 00:59 royalroadweed wrote:
Fanatsy on wardii.

Fantasy*

lol
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
May 08 2015 16:04 GMT
#610
ptitdrogo taking a game of of ForGG
I Protoss winner, could it be?
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
May 08 2015 16:05 GMT
#611
(P)PtitDrogo 1-1 (T)ForGG

ForGG was ahead in the early game but then he made a ton of uneffective drops while delaying his third until forever and Drogo just killed him.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
May 08 2015 16:05 GMT
#612
On May 09 2015 01:04 Penev wrote:
ptitdrogo taking a game of of ForGG

ForGG didn't play that very well. His strengths are clearly not in TvP.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
May 08 2015 16:06 GMT
#613
On May 09 2015 01:01 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 01:01 The_Templar wrote:
I suppose I missed a lot by sticking to the main stream, how's it going so far?

Zerg sucks vs Protoss, unless you're Bly. Thanks how it's going.

#Blyonfire?
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
May 08 2015 16:06 GMT
#614
MAINSTREAM BACK
RIP MKP
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
May 08 2015 16:06 GMT
#615
It's not entirely fixed Apollo, your voice is out of sync.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 08 2015 16:06 GMT
#616
Hydra 2-0 Chubz
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 08 2015 16:06 GMT
#617
MKP on the main stream woo
Community News
TL+ Member
Lockdown-
Profile Joined May 2003
United States298 Posts
May 08 2015 16:06 GMT
#618
audio/video not synced. Odd.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 08 2015 16:06 GMT
#619
On May 09 2015 01:06 shid0x wrote:
MAINSTREAM BACK

where is wax??
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 08 2015 16:07 GMT
#620
Psionic is looking quite strong, 2-0 TLO and now he is keeping up with Fantasy.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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