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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
April 21 2015 12:12 GMT
#1081
On April 21 2015 21:10 Alucen-Will- wrote:
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On April 21 2015 21:08 sAsImre wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:06 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:06 sAsImre wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:04 Ej_ wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:03 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:03 Elentos wrote:
And as you can see, Protoss is always the wrong choice vs Maru.


Shoulda been Flash as I stated earlier

clear favorite vs Rogue

Could have busted out a surprise Vaani mech.


which wouldn't have been too surprising

He hasn't played mech in a televised match all year


It's still freaking Vaani and mech isn't the hardest thing to do if you keep up with the new zerg pressure/all in builds.


It's good you mentioned the last map was Vaani. Its an obvious mistake not bringing Flash in that case. Likely they would put out Rogue or Cure, and he would likely play mech/be favored in TvT


Imo it's not a mistake because Stats is their best performer (barring Life) in everything right now, just got an all kill yesterday and is incredibly solid. It's easy to say it's a mistake after the match but Flash could've lost to Maru and we would say the same.

You can't judge coaching only by the results and both options weren't optimal but had their merits. The fact that the Stats option failed doesn't mean it was a bad one or that the Flash one would've been better.

Zest fanboy.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 21 2015 12:12 GMT
#1082
On April 21 2015 21:12 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:10 DJHelium wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:09 GumBa wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:08 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:07 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 jonich0n wrote:
Maru carries Jin Air on his back, kid is just next level. that TvP is insane. He was the only Terran that was beating Protoss during the P era of dominance (quite a while ago now), and he's still doing it.

Storm was just 10 seconds too late for Stats, but losing those 3 collossus to that ballsy medivac drop was a real killer.


You're forgetting about Sir Polt of Terran.

Who was the only Terran who actually came close to winning a tournament in that time.

Didnt Maru ro4 in gsl?


Yeah, he beat jjakji (who got 6th that season) in ro8.

Wrong Ro4 :p


Well I'm still correct :D
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 21 2015 12:12 GMT
#1083
On April 21 2015 21:11 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:10 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:10 DJHelium wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:09 GumBa wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:08 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:07 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 jonich0n wrote:
Maru carries Jin Air on his back, kid is just next level. that TvP is insane. He was the only Terran that was beating Protoss during the P era of dominance (quite a while ago now), and he's still doing it.

Storm was just 10 seconds too late for Stats, but losing those 3 collossus to that ballsy medivac drop was a real killer.


You're forgetting about Sir Polt of Terran.

Who was the only Terran who actually came close to winning a tournament in that time.

Didnt Maru ro4 in gsl?


Yeah, he beat jjakji (who got 6th that season) in ro8.

jjakji played GSL and WCS EU?


This was season 3 2013, just before he moved to Europe. jjakji was playing so god damn well, #1 on ladder and one match away from qualifying for season finals.

And yes Downfall, that doom drop Frost game :D

ah yeah I thought GumBa was talking about 2014 S1
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 21 2015 12:13 GMT
#1084
pls stop slumping INno so I can haz more good terrans to watch.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
April 21 2015 12:13 GMT
#1085
On April 21 2015 21:10 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:09 GumBa wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:08 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:07 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 jonich0n wrote:
Maru carries Jin Air on his back, kid is just next level. that TvP is insane. He was the only Terran that was beating Protoss during the P era of dominance (quite a while ago now), and he's still doing it.

Storm was just 10 seconds too late for Stats, but losing those 3 collossus to that ballsy medivac drop was a real killer.


You're forgetting about Sir Polt of Terran.

Who was the only Terran who actually came close to winning a tournament in that time.

Didnt Maru ro4 in gsl?


Yeah, he beat jjakji (who got 6th that season) in ro8.

Polt got to the finals of IEM Cologne and the Ro4 of IEM Katowice while playing KeSPA Protosses. Maru lost a bo7 against Classic in season 2 and lost to Life in the Ro8 in Code S season 1.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 21 2015 12:13 GMT
#1086
On April 21 2015 21:12 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:11 DJHelium wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:10 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:10 DJHelium wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:09 GumBa wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:08 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:07 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 jonich0n wrote:
Maru carries Jin Air on his back, kid is just next level. that TvP is insane. He was the only Terran that was beating Protoss during the P era of dominance (quite a while ago now), and he's still doing it.

Storm was just 10 seconds too late for Stats, but losing those 3 collossus to that ballsy medivac drop was a real killer.


You're forgetting about Sir Polt of Terran.

Who was the only Terran who actually came close to winning a tournament in that time.

Didnt Maru ro4 in gsl?


Yeah, he beat jjakji (who got 6th that season) in ro8.

jjakji played GSL and WCS EU?


This was season 3 2013, just before he moved to Europe. jjakji was playing so god damn well, #1 on ladder and one match away from qualifying for season finals.

And yes Downfall, that doom drop Frost game :D

ah yeah I thought GumBa was talking about 2014 S1

I dunno what I talk about I just say words
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 21 2015 12:14 GMT
#1087
On April 21 2015 21:10 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:08 sAsImre wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:06 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:06 sAsImre wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:04 Ej_ wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:03 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:03 Elentos wrote:
And as you can see, Protoss is always the wrong choice vs Maru.


Shoulda been Flash as I stated earlier

clear favorite vs Rogue

Could have busted out a surprise Vaani mech.


which wouldn't have been too surprising

He hasn't played mech in a televised match all year


It's still freaking Vaani and mech isn't the hardest thing to do if you keep up with the new zerg pressure/all in builds.


It's good you mentioned the last map was Vaani. Its an obvious mistake not bringing Flash in that case. Likely they would put out Rogue or Cure, and he would likely play mech/be favored in TvT

Probably Rogue, yes
Pembar
Profile Joined November 2011
297 Posts
April 21 2015 12:14 GMT
#1088
Oh, the finals only in 3 days, blah.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
April 21 2015 12:14 GMT
#1089
Seems like Maru's limbs are safe after all
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 21 2015 12:14 GMT
#1090
People saying Flash would be better cause mech in vaani vs Rogue I can see him just going bio and sucking lel
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
April 21 2015 12:14 GMT
#1091
Maru is like a next-level bad interviewee

taking that title way from INnoVation alongside the title of best Terran
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 21 2015 12:15 GMT
#1092
On April 21 2015 21:14 Waxangel wrote:
Maru is like a next-level bad interviewee

taking that title way from INnoVation alongside the title of best Terran

The slump just reached a new low. My god T_T
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
April 21 2015 12:15 GMT
#1093
On April 21 2015 21:14 Waxangel wrote:
Maru is like a next-level bad interviewee

taking that title way from INnoVation alongside the title of best Terran

second only to Has in terms of play:interview unique:un-uniqueness
Writermaru pls
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
April 21 2015 12:15 GMT
#1094
On April 21 2015 21:14 GumBa wrote:
People saying Flash would be better cause mech in vaani vs Rogue I can see him just going bio and sucking lel

People say Flash would be better cause his TvT is better than Stats' PvT and he'd still have a chance vs Rogue
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 21 2015 12:15 GMT
#1095
On April 21 2015 21:15 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:14 Waxangel wrote:
Maru is like a next-level bad interviewee

taking that title way from INnoVation alongside the title of best Terran

The slump just reached a new low. My god T_T


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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
April 21 2015 12:16 GMT
#1096
damn I'll say it again, stupid mech and stupid ultras

AND ZEST Y U NO COUNTERATTACK THE NAT

also Stats lost and his AK yesterday doesn't taste so sweet now

/rant


Phew, had to let that go. I feel better now.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 21 2015 12:16 GMT
#1097
On April 21 2015 21:12 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:10 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:08 sAsImre wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:06 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:06 sAsImre wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:04 Ej_ wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:03 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:03 Elentos wrote:
And as you can see, Protoss is always the wrong choice vs Maru.


Shoulda been Flash as I stated earlier

clear favorite vs Rogue

Could have busted out a surprise Vaani mech.


which wouldn't have been too surprising

He hasn't played mech in a televised match all year


It's still freaking Vaani and mech isn't the hardest thing to do if you keep up with the new zerg pressure/all in builds.


It's good you mentioned the last map was Vaani. Its an obvious mistake not bringing Flash in that case. Likely they would put out Rogue or Cure, and he would likely play mech/be favored in TvT



Imo it's not a mistake because Stats is their best performer (barring Life) in everything right now, just got an all kill yesterday and is incredibly solid. It's easy to say it's a mistake after the match but Flash could've lost to Maru and we would say the same.

You can't judge coaching only by the results and both options weren't optimal but had their merits. The fact that the Stats option failed doesn't mean it was a bad one or that the Flash one would've been better.



I understand, looking at Stats he seems like the obvious pick. But Maru pick's apart straight up players like Stats and Flash is very strong in TvT, even with his struggle (which is largely against zerg anyway).

I simply think Flash had a higher chance of winning the game
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 21 2015 12:16 GMT
#1098
On April 21 2015 21:15 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:14 Waxangel wrote:
Maru is like a next-level bad interviewee

taking that title way from INnoVation alongside the title of best Terran

The slump just reached a new low. My god T_T

Do you wanna add me on skype and just talk about how our favorite players aren't that good anymore?
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
genai
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia78 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 12:26:12
April 21 2015 12:16 GMT
#1099
On April 21 2015 21:08 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:07 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 jonich0n wrote:
Maru carries Jin Air on his back, kid is just next level. that TvP is insane. He was the only Terran that was beating Protoss during the P era of dominance (quite a while ago now), and he's still doing it.

Storm was just 10 seconds too late for Stats, but losing those 3 collossus to that ballsy medivac drop was a real killer.


You're forgetting about Sir Polt of Terran.

Who was the only Terran who actually came close to winning a tournament in that time.


Didnt Taeja have the biggest period of domination during the time that Protoss were dominating(most finals were PvP and PvZ if Taeja wasnt around) and Terran were nowhere to be found... including Maru? Taeja actually started his decline as T got buffed... lol
edit: period im talking about was last year

On April 21 2015 21:08 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:07 genai wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:04 DJHelium wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:03 Greenei wrote:
2 bo1 make you the best terran in the world, lol.


What? Maru has been good for over 2 years, this wasn't his first good performance.


Except he wasnt...


Yeah winning that OSL sure was crappy? Or what?


year 2014 says HI! Maru just skipped it, so guess you can too 2 tournaments... one in 2013 and 1 in 2015... clearly best terran last 2 years!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 21 2015 12:16 GMT
#1100
On April 21 2015 21:15 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:14 GumBa wrote:
People saying Flash would be better cause mech in vaani vs Rogue I can see him just going bio and sucking lel

People say Flash would be better cause his TvT is better than Stats' PvT and he'd still have a chance vs Rogue

The follow up after his TvT
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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