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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 21 2015 12:09 GMT
#1061
On April 21 2015 21:07 dazed25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:06 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 KelsierSC wrote:
will be an incredible finals.

I think the question is who on CJ can stop maru
Probably not hero based on maru's insane TvP today.

sKyHigh


Best pick. TvT is Maru's weakest matchup and skyhigh is a god in the matchup.

His current form? Because historically TvT is Maru's strongest matchup.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 12:10:43
April 21 2015 12:10 GMT
#1062
On April 21 2015 21:08 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:07 dazed25 wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:06 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 KelsierSC wrote:
will be an incredible finals.

I think the question is who on CJ can stop maru
Probably not hero based on maru's insane TvP today.

sKyHigh


Best pick. TvT is Maru's weakest matchup and skyhigh is a god in the matchup.


http://aligulac.com/players/49-Maru/


Still true. Weakest but only relatively to his other matchups. Him beating guys like Dream and Inno who are also weak in the matchup doesn't mean that much.

On April 21 2015 21:09 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:07 dazed25 wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:06 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 KelsierSC wrote:
will be an incredible finals.

I think the question is who on CJ can stop maru
Probably not hero based on maru's insane TvP today.

sKyHigh


Best pick. TvT is Maru's weakest matchup and skyhigh is a god in the matchup.

His current form? Because historically TvT is Maru's strongest matchup.



And yes currently. It's the matchup where he's looked most vulnerable recently.
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 21 2015 12:10 GMT
#1063
On April 21 2015 21:08 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:06 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:06 sAsImre wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:04 Ej_ wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:03 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:03 Elentos wrote:
And as you can see, Protoss is always the wrong choice vs Maru.


Shoulda been Flash as I stated earlier

clear favorite vs Rogue

Could have busted out a surprise Vaani mech.


which wouldn't have been too surprising

He hasn't played mech in a televised match all year


It's still freaking Vaani and mech isn't the hardest thing to do if you keep up with the new zerg pressure/all in builds.


It's good you mentioned the last map was Vaani. Its an obvious mistake not bringing Flash in that case. Likely they would put out Rogue or Cure, and he would likely play mech/be favored in TvT
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 12:10:15
April 21 2015 12:10 GMT
#1064
On April 21 2015 21:09 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:08 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:07 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 jonich0n wrote:
Maru carries Jin Air on his back, kid is just next level. that TvP is insane. He was the only Terran that was beating Protoss during the P era of dominance (quite a while ago now), and he's still doing it.

Storm was just 10 seconds too late for Stats, but losing those 3 collossus to that ballsy medivac drop was a real killer.


You're forgetting about Sir Polt of Terran.

Who was the only Terran who actually came close to winning a tournament in that time.

Didnt Maru ro4 in gsl?


Yeah, he beat jjakji (who got 6th that season) in ro8.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 21 2015 12:10 GMT
#1065
Also Maru vs Dream showed that Maru's TvT is not bad
Zerg for Life
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
April 21 2015 12:10 GMT
#1066
On April 21 2015 21:08 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:06 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:06 sAsImre wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:04 Ej_ wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:03 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:03 Elentos wrote:
And as you can see, Protoss is always the wrong choice vs Maru.


Shoulda been Flash as I stated earlier

clear favorite vs Rogue

Could have busted out a surprise Vaani mech.


which wouldn't have been too surprising

He hasn't played mech in a televised match all year


It's still freaking Vaani and mech isn't the hardest thing to do if you keep up with the new zerg pressure/all in builds.

Yeah but he's only played bio and one bio mech, even when regularly fielded on Sejong and playing Deadwing cross in SSL. At this point it seems he's just abandoned it for the time being.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 21 2015 12:10 GMT
#1067
On April 21 2015 21:10 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:09 GumBa wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:08 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:07 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 jonich0n wrote:
Maru carries Jin Air on his back, kid is just next level. that TvP is insane. He was the only Terran that was beating Protoss during the P era of dominance (quite a while ago now), and he's still doing it.

Storm was just 10 seconds too late for Stats, but losing those 3 collossus to that ballsy medivac drop was a real killer.


You're forgetting about Sir Polt of Terran.

Who was the only Terran who actually came close to winning a tournament in that time.

Didnt Maru ro4 in gsl?


Yeah, he beat jjakji (who got 6th that season) in ro8.

That Frost game, man -.-
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 21 2015 12:10 GMT
#1068
Maru: "scv pulls are for bitches!"
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mCon.Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands891 Posts
April 21 2015 12:10 GMT
#1069
Life played so amazing and yet still lost sad days
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 21 2015 12:10 GMT
#1070
On April 21 2015 21:10 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:09 GumBa wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:08 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:07 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 jonich0n wrote:
Maru carries Jin Air on his back, kid is just next level. that TvP is insane. He was the only Terran that was beating Protoss during the P era of dominance (quite a while ago now), and he's still doing it.

Storm was just 10 seconds too late for Stats, but losing those 3 collossus to that ballsy medivac drop was a real killer.


You're forgetting about Sir Polt of Terran.

Who was the only Terran who actually came close to winning a tournament in that time.

Didnt Maru ro4 in gsl?


Yeah, he beat jjakji (who got 6th that season) in ro8.

jjakji played GSL and WCS EU?
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 21 2015 12:10 GMT
#1071
Maru doesn't have a weak matchup per say, maybe weaker than his other incredible match ups.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 21 2015 12:10 GMT
#1072
On April 21 2015 21:10 dazed25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:08 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:07 dazed25 wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:06 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 KelsierSC wrote:
will be an incredible finals.

I think the question is who on CJ can stop maru
Probably not hero based on maru's insane TvP today.

sKyHigh


Best pick. TvT is Maru's weakest matchup and skyhigh is a god in the matchup.


http://aligulac.com/players/49-Maru/


Still true. Weakest but only relatively to his other matchups. Him beating guys like Dream and Inno who are also weak in the matchup doesn't mean that much.


His all time TvT is his strongest matchup
stargunner
Profile Joined July 2014
United States135 Posts
April 21 2015 12:10 GMT
#1073
Maru played well but I can't help but think Life was on the ropes for blizz taking away SH and not giving Zerg any new tool to compensate for that huge nerf. although he probably should have gone corruptor/bl , but once it's scouted the tech is on a pretty short timer
Muxtar
Profile Joined November 2014
Ukraine64 Posts
April 21 2015 12:10 GMT
#1074
So this recent Life vs. Maru game showed once more that ZvT mech is unbeatable after this 'hillarious' patch DK made. No options for zerg to win this match-up right now. 2-base all-in or gg.

User was warned for this post
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 21 2015 12:11 GMT
#1075
On April 21 2015 21:07 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:06 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:03 Greenei wrote:
2 bo1 make you the best terran in the world, lol.

I think it just reinforces it. There hasn't been a time in the last where Maru wasn't considered at least a top 3 terran.

2010-2012

Do you see between "last" and "where"? There was supposed to be a "year" there. Dunno what happened >.>
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
April 21 2015 12:11 GMT
#1076
On April 21 2015 21:09 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:07 dazed25 wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:06 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 KelsierSC wrote:
will be an incredible finals.

I think the question is who on CJ can stop maru
Probably not hero based on maru's insane TvP today.

sKyHigh


Best pick. TvT is Maru's weakest matchup and skyhigh is a god in the matchup.

His current form? Because historically TvT is Maru's strongest matchup.

Historically and currently his strongest.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 21 2015 12:11 GMT
#1077
On April 21 2015 21:10 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:10 DJHelium wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:09 GumBa wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:08 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:07 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 jonich0n wrote:
Maru carries Jin Air on his back, kid is just next level. that TvP is insane. He was the only Terran that was beating Protoss during the P era of dominance (quite a while ago now), and he's still doing it.

Storm was just 10 seconds too late for Stats, but losing those 3 collossus to that ballsy medivac drop was a real killer.


You're forgetting about Sir Polt of Terran.

Who was the only Terran who actually came close to winning a tournament in that time.

Didnt Maru ro4 in gsl?


Yeah, he beat jjakji (who got 6th that season) in ro8.

jjakji played GSL and WCS EU?


This was season 3 2013, just before he moved to Europe. jjakji was playing so god damn well, #1 on ladder and one match away from qualifying for season finals.

And yes Downfall, that doom drop Frost game :D
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 21 2015 12:11 GMT
#1078
On April 21 2015 21:11 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:07 GumBa wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:06 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:03 Greenei wrote:
2 bo1 make you the best terran in the world, lol.

I think it just reinforces it. There hasn't been a time in the last where Maru wasn't considered at least a top 3 terran.

2010-2012

Do you see between "last" and "where"? There was supposed to be a "year" there. Dunno what happened >.>

I thought you mistyped past tbh xD
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
April 21 2015 12:12 GMT
#1079
On April 21 2015 21:10 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 21:09 GumBa wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:08 Elentos wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:07 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 21 2015 21:05 jonich0n wrote:
Maru carries Jin Air on his back, kid is just next level. that TvP is insane. He was the only Terran that was beating Protoss during the P era of dominance (quite a while ago now), and he's still doing it.

Storm was just 10 seconds too late for Stats, but losing those 3 collossus to that ballsy medivac drop was a real killer.


You're forgetting about Sir Polt of Terran.

Who was the only Terran who actually came close to winning a tournament in that time.

Didnt Maru ro4 in gsl?


Yeah, he beat jjakji (who got 6th that season) in ro8.

Wrong Ro4 :p
Writermaru pls
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
April 21 2015 12:12 GMT
#1080
parting still bops maru ezpz
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