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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
April 21 2015 11:54 GMT
#921
On April 21 2015 20:53 Elentos wrote:
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On April 21 2015 20:52 DJHelium wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:51 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:50 HolydaKing wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:49 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I think this is a big mistake not pulling out Flash here

Yeah, Stats is pretty bad. With only 6-1 in the regular season and an all-kill yesterday, I think they shouldn't have fielded him today. Why no Action??

FlaSh is at 87% TvT vs Koreans in 2015. Stats is at 69% PvT.


To be fair there's another korean coming after this game. I think Stats has way a better chance vs a Rogue or Cure.

Cure would still be a TvT and Cure lost to Flash in the KeSPA Cup qualifiers. They'd send out Rogue vs Flash I reckon.


It'd be on Vaani so not that bad. Imo both choices are correct, I'm very happy for Stats who deserves this even if I'd rather watch some Flash mech
Zest fanboy.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 21 2015 11:55 GMT
#922
On April 21 2015 20:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 20:52 DJHelium wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:51 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:50 HolydaKing wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:49 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I think this is a big mistake not pulling out Flash here

Yeah, Stats is pretty bad. With only 6-1 in the regular season and an all-kill yesterday, I think they shouldn't have fielded him today. Why no Action??

FlaSh is at 87% TvT vs Koreans in 2015. Stats is at 69% PvT.


To be fair there's another korean coming after this game. I think Stats has way a better chance vs a Rogue or Cure.

Cure would still be a TvT and Cure lost to Flash in the KeSPA Cup qualifiers. They'd send out Rogue vs Flash I reckon.


Almost certainly they would bring out Rogue if Flash were brought out
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 11:56:19
April 21 2015 11:55 GMT
#923
On April 21 2015 20:54 TheDwf wrote:
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On April 21 2015 20:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:49 TheDwf wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:46 TheDwf wrote:
Hilarious comments, really. For once we have a real mech TvZ game instead of the SH vs Raven crap, and this ensues. No comment

It was great to watch, but terran might be favored playing it, no?

This argument self-destroys since the same Zergs already claimed that Ravens were OP.

What? No it does not.
Zerg has no endgame vs mech, it's really that simple

Zergs before the patch: mech lategame is unbeatable
Zergs after the patch: mech lategame is unbeatable
So what difference from their point of view?? Except the same Zerg viewer gets to see a back-and-forth, action-packed game instead of endless camping? That's what I don't get from the comments here.

No, Zergs before the patch was : mech lategame is boring and long to beat, but not unbeatable. Just look at, I dunno, Snute vs MajOr at the top of my head. In no way unbeatable since Swarm Hosts did wonders.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 21 2015 11:56 GMT
#924
I would like mech and air ups to be split so the transition isnt as strong or early. GIves Zerg a timing maybe or atleast a shot to get even on ups in sky wars etc
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
April 21 2015 11:57 GMT
#925
On April 21 2015 20:54 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 20:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:49 TheDwf wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:46 TheDwf wrote:
Hilarious comments, really. For once we have a real mech TvZ game instead of the SH vs Raven crap, and this ensues. No comment

It was great to watch, but terran might be favored playing it, no?

This argument self-destroys since the same Zergs already claimed that Ravens were OP.

What? No it does not.
Zerg has no endgame vs mech, it's really that simple

Zergs before the patch: mech lategame is unbeatable
Zergs after the patch: mech lategame is unbeatable
So what difference from their point of view?? Except the same Zerg viewer gets to see a back-and-forth, action-packed game instead of endless camping? That's what I don't get from the comments here.


It wasn't unbeatable, just a pain in the ass. That's the difference. I'd rather have boring and balanced then exciting and not balanced.

For the record, that was the most fun I've had watching zvMech in a while, just wish Ž had more options...I guess I'm Geelong a bit salty
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
April 21 2015 11:57 GMT
#926
On April 21 2015 20:54 KelsierSC wrote:
people are right...as zerg we do complain a lot more than other races.

had like 4 games with no zerg players and no one getting mad. then as soon as a zerg lost we go full aids.
I'm going to break the trend and stop bitching about things in general

This should be an awesome PvT

Nonsense, if it was an other Zerg it would've been different imo.
It's silly to think that the race you play has anything to do with personality
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
April 21 2015 11:57 GMT
#927
Stats defense vs mines seems always to be stellar
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 21 2015 11:57 GMT
#928
On April 21 2015 20:55 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 20:54 TheDwf wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:49 TheDwf wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:46 TheDwf wrote:
Hilarious comments, really. For once we have a real mech TvZ game instead of the SH vs Raven crap, and this ensues. No comment

It was great to watch, but terran might be favored playing it, no?

This argument self-destroys since the same Zergs already claimed that Ravens were OP.

What? No it does not.
Zerg has no endgame vs mech, it's really that simple

Zergs before the patch: mech lategame is unbeatable
Zergs after the patch: mech lategame is unbeatable
So what difference from their point of view?? Except the same Zerg viewer gets to see a back-and-forth, action-packed game instead of endless camping? That's what I don't get from the comments here.

No, Zergs before the patch was : mech lategame is boring and long to beat, but not unbeatable. Just look at, I dunno, Snute vs MajOr at the top of my head

Yeah. Theoretical mass air compositions were pretty tough, but you could prevent them with continuous trading and staling and outmining the map.

But Dwf is probably blinded by the dictatorship of the viewer to see more action and less downtime
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
April 21 2015 11:57 GMT
#929
I hope Stats can handle the drops better than zest.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12703 Posts
April 21 2015 11:57 GMT
#930
On April 21 2015 20:57 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 20:54 KelsierSC wrote:
people are right...as zerg we do complain a lot more than other races.

had like 4 games with no zerg players and no one getting mad. then as soon as a zerg lost we go full aids.
I'm going to break the trend and stop bitching about things in general

This should be an awesome PvT

Nonsense, if it was an other Zerg it would've been different imo.
It's silly to think that the race you play has anything to do with personality

I thought zerg complained the least in hots and some pro (I think jinro?) was asking where are the zerg whiners because the tournament win were looking pretty bad for zerg
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 21 2015 11:57 GMT
#931
On April 21 2015 20:57 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 20:54 KelsierSC wrote:
people are right...as zerg we do complain a lot more than other races.

had like 4 games with no zerg players and no one getting mad. then as soon as a zerg lost we go full aids.
I'm going to break the trend and stop bitching about things in general

This should be an awesome PvT

Nonsense, if it was an other Zerg it would've been different imo.
It's silly to think that the race you play has anything to do with personality


dunno zergs just bitch a lot man

I call em how I see em
Zerg for Life
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 21 2015 11:58 GMT
#932
On April 21 2015 20:57 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 20:54 KelsierSC wrote:
people are right...as zerg we do complain a lot more than other races.

had like 4 games with no zerg players and no one getting mad. then as soon as a zerg lost we go full aids.
I'm going to break the trend and stop bitching about things in general

This should be an awesome PvT

Nonsense, if it was an other Zerg it would've been different imo.
It's silly to think that the race you play has anything to do with personality

Actually Protoss players tend to have a shifty and bullshitty personality
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 11:58:42
April 21 2015 11:58 GMT
#933
On April 21 2015 20:50 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 20:48 Zealously wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:46 TheDwf wrote:
Hilarious comments, really. For once we have a real mech TvZ game instead of the SH vs Raven crap, and this ensues. No comment


I take it you think Zerg players will be fine playing late-game? What should Life have done to win in this situation?

On the other hand Life had problems against mech compositions earlier - I remember some foreigner ForGG crashing Life with units from factories

Life was behind on those games from early drone losses, he was ahead in this one, because Maru lost all his Hellions to kill all of 2 drones, and Life won multiple big engagements and was up in supply all mid game. Then Maru managed to hold on to his gold and max, and build 3/3 banshees without spending a dime on air upgrades, and Life was dead.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 21 2015 11:58 GMT
#934
I am conflicted here, one one hand I want KT to win because i I am used to cheering against JAGW, on the other hand, my liquibet is on JAGW.
Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
April 21 2015 11:58 GMT
#935
double mine drop by fuckin MARU and he doesnt loose a single probe.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 21 2015 11:58 GMT
#936
On April 21 2015 20:57 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 20:57 Penev wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:54 KelsierSC wrote:
people are right...as zerg we do complain a lot more than other races.

had like 4 games with no zerg players and no one getting mad. then as soon as a zerg lost we go full aids.
I'm going to break the trend and stop bitching about things in general

This should be an awesome PvT

Nonsense, if it was an other Zerg it would've been different imo.
It's silly to think that the race you play has anything to do with personality

I thought zerg complained the least in hots and some pro (I think jinro?) was asking where are the zerg whiners because the tournament win were looking pretty bad for zerg


jinro is good at MMA
Zerg for Life
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 11:59:34
April 21 2015 11:58 GMT
#937
On April 21 2015 20:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 20:57 Penev wrote:
On April 21 2015 20:54 KelsierSC wrote:
people are right...as zerg we do complain a lot more than other races.

had like 4 games with no zerg players and no one getting mad. then as soon as a zerg lost we go full aids.
I'm going to break the trend and stop bitching about things in general

This should be an awesome PvT

Nonsense, if it was an other Zerg it would've been different imo.
It's silly to think that the race you play has anything to do with personality


dunno zergs just bitch a lot man

I call em how I see em

Lol, you bitch about protoss all the time. So you shouldn't call out anyone.
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 21 2015 11:59 GMT
#938
On April 21 2015 20:58 ThomasjServo wrote:
I am conflicted here, one one hand I want KT to win because i I am used to cheering against JAGW, on the other hand, my liquibet is on JAGW.


"I hope they show good games."
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 21 2015 11:59 GMT
#939
On April 21 2015 20:54 KelsierSC wrote:
people are right...as zerg we do complain a lot more than other races.

had like 4 games with no zerg players and no one getting mad. then as soon as a zerg lost we go full aids.
I'm going to break the trend and stop bitching about things in general

This should be an awesome PvT


I think it's more about the best player in the world losing on a zerg favoured map. Also the fact that Maru made mistakes during the early/mid game. Overall I'd say that zerg did not complain a lot during HotS, it was more of a terran vs protoss war so far. All three races complaint about the SH of course.

Really hope Maru smacks Stats down now, he was so cocky yesterday .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
April 21 2015 11:59 GMT
#940
Zerg. Protoss Terran. If you think any bitch a lot you've never played LoL.
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
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