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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 28 2014 00:48 bo1b wrote: On a serious note do you not think the game is still being figured out? Even at the end of WoL, things were being figured out. First was using the blink stalker into storm hargelot style that didnt see play again until a month ago. Gumiho and Dream were really pushing out what could be done with multit-task and micro before Seed Medivacs made it so that everyone could do what they did. | ||
digmouse
China6329 Posts
On September 28 2014 00:50 stuchiu wrote: Probably soO. I think 2012 Mvp's run was more impactful though, (not because of results) but because of what he was fighting. Broodlord Infestor? His 2012 GSL win was a TvP and before the BLinfestor era, then he lost vs Life, and didn't do that well in other GSLs. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 28 2014 00:52 bo1b wrote: Personally I think mvp was a bit like batman, he fought against injustice and succeeded. Compared to soo who lost 3 times in a row to protoss. Not the role model I will be showing to my kids for sure. That soO win over Zest was real Mvp like though. | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On September 28 2014 00:52 bo1b wrote: Personally I think mvp was a bit like batman, he fought against injustice and succeeded. Compared to soo who lost 3 times in a row to protoss. Not the role model I will be showing to my kids for sure. Imagine if he beats INno ; loses to Protoss, beats a crowd favorite Terran. Moves on to being hated by everyone and doesn't get any recognition. Life ain't easy for a Zerg named soO. | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On September 28 2014 00:52 stuchiu wrote: Even at the end of WoL, things were being figured out. First was using the blink stalker into storm hargelot style that didnt see play again until a month ago. Gumiho and Dream were really pushing out what could be done with multit-task and micro before Seed Medivacs made it so that everyone could do what they did. The blink -> charge/storm playstyle was always around since then, especially HerO/Oz did it all the time | ||
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Just_a_Moth
Canada1953 Posts
On September 28 2014 00:53 maartendq wrote: Less than 35k viewers for a main Dreamhack event.. Never thought I'd ever see this happen. Maybe it's because they switched from Starcraft to skiing? | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On September 28 2014 00:53 maartendq wrote: Less than 35k viewers for a main Dreamhack event.. Never thought I'd ever see this happen. 66k for Hearthstone. Which is the main Dreamhack event. And with Artosis showing more passion than I've seen in a while, including calling this Dreamhack Hearthstone the best esports event ever. | ||
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cpower
228 Posts
On September 28 2014 00:48 royalroadweed wrote: I don't think the meta should even be relevant. The greats from previous "eras" should be compared to their peers. no doubt MVP dominated his peers but since we are comparing the difficulty of two runs, we should look at the meta and talent pool and balancing. The fact that soO did so well in the protoss domination era is very impressive. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 28 2014 00:52 digmouse wrote: Broodlord Infestor? His 2012 GSL win was a TvP and before the BLinfestor era, then he lost vs Life, and didn't do that well in other GSLs. His wrists, TvP (He invented multiple builds/styles that became standard after his run including hellion marine medivac harass and scv pulls). He created Mech TvZ. He lost to Life a player that went on to win 5/8 Premier tournaments in the next 6 months. And he did all of it at a time where I would have argued (and still do) that he was far away from being the best player in the world. There were so many other players that were better than him mechanically. But Mvp just kept on winning. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On September 28 2014 00:54 felisconcolori wrote: 66k for Hearthstone. Which is the main Dreamhack event. And with Artosis showing more passion than I've seen in a while, including calling this Dreamhack Hearthstone the best esports event ever. The filthy traitor. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On September 28 2014 00:52 digmouse wrote: Broodlord Infestor? His 2012 GSL win was a TvP and before the BLinfestor era, then he lost vs Life, and didn't do that well in other GSLs. Not bl-infestor. Spinal and wrist issues in a protoss favored meta vs terran. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
He chose HS over the best Protoss and the best Zerg player dueling each other. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
WCS Predictor 2014 DreamHack Stockholm Semifinals Biggest changes this tournament so far (and Innovation vs Cure) + Show Spoiler [Changes] + Biggest Winners   INnoVation went up by ~ 19.07 %, going from ~ 31.75 % to ~ 50.82 % MMA went up by ~ 12.77 %, going from ~ 87.23 % to ~ 100 %  Jaedong went up by ~ 8.13 %, going from ~ 59.7 % to ~ 67.83 %  herO went up by ~ 4.9 %, going from ~ 95.1 % to ~ 100 % Life went up by ~ 3.31 %, going from ~ 96.69 % to ~ 100 % ForGG went up by ~ 2.31 %, going from ~ 19.74 % to ~ 22.05 % soO went up by ~ 1.51 %, going from ~ 98.49 % to ~ 100 % Classic went up by ~ 0.52 %, going from ~ 99.48 % to ~ 100 % Scarlett went up by ~ 0.38 %, going from ~ 17.04 % to ~ 17.41 %Biggest Losers  Snute went down by ~ 32.69 %, going from ~ 44.88 % to ~ 12.19 % YoDa went down by ~ 8.03 %, going from ~ 9.73 % to ~ 1.7 % Golden went down by ~ 4.7 %, going from ~ 6.75 % to ~ 2.05 % Heart went down by ~ 2.43 %, going from ~ 4.62 % to ~ 2.19 % HerO went down by ~ 2.41 %, going from ~ 7.18 % to ~ 4.77 % HuK went down by ~ 1.18 %, going from ~ 2.11 % to ~ 0.92 % Pigbaby went down by ~ 0.93 %, going from ~ 8.1 % to ~ 7.17 % Bunny went down by ~ 0.46 %, going from ~ 11.37 % to ~ 10.9 %WCS Point Cutoffs ~ 0 % of the time 2,900 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 13.89 % of the time 2,925 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 17.64 % of the time 3,000 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 21.88 % of the time 3,125 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 67.83 % of the time 3,200 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 91.92 % of the time 3,225 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 100 % of the time 3,250 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon Top 25 Chances + Show Spoiler [Top 25 Chances] +
Starts in soO, ForGG in DreamHack Stockholm soO has the #2 headband!This is a match for the #2 headband! - soO is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014~ 55.08 % of the time soO wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.~ 44.92 % of the time soO loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.------------------------------------------------- - ForGG is at ~ 22.05 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014~ 44.92 % of the time ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 27.31 %.~ 55.08 % of the time ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 17.76 %.Starts in herO, Solar DreamHack Stockholm - herO is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014~ 51.62 % of the time herO wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.~ 48.38 % of the time herO loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.------------------------------------------------- - Solar is at ~ 0 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014~ 48.38 % of the time Solar wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0 %.~ 51.62 % of the time Solar loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0 %.Winning Chances herO has a ~ 31.2 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % soO has a ~ 25.72 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Solar has a ~ 23.79 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 0 % to ~ 0 % ForGG has a ~ 19.29 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 22.05 % to ~ 35.79 %Winning Gains ForGG would gain ~ 13.75 % if they win, with a ~ 19.29 % chance to win, going from ~ 22.05 % to ~ 35.79 % herO would gain ~ 0 % if they win, with a ~ 31.2 % chance to win, going from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % soO would gain ~ 0 % if they win, with a ~ 25.72 % chance to win, going from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Solar would gain ~ 0 % if they win, with a ~ 23.79 % chance to win, going from ~ 0 % to ~ 0 %+ Show Spoiler [Other Events] + Using filters "single other positive notor" ~ 44.94 % of the time ForGG wins their next match in DreamHack Stockholm ro4 This would change Snute's Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.19 % to ~ 9.99 % ~ 55.06 % of the time soO wins their next match in DreamHack Stockholm ro4 This would change Snute's Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.19 % to ~ 13.99 % | ||
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
In Artosis' defense, he is the reigning Hearthstone World Champion from last Blizzcon. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On September 28 2014 00:57 stuchiu wrote: He chose HS over the best Protoss and the best Zerg player dueling each other. Should we capture him and burn him at a stake ? | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On September 28 2014 00:58 felisconcolori wrote: In Artosis' defense, he is the reigning Hearthstone World Champion from last Blizzcon. Ah, that was just an invitational and nobody knew how to play the game yet  | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
His passion died after rain got knocked out of GSL for the umpteenth time. Rain is the new clide for artosis. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25436 Posts
Still mad they were removed, so many classic moments from those | ||
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