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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17742 Posts
September 27 2014 15:43 GMT
#1581
On September 28 2014 00:42 cpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:40 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:37 stuchiu wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 Lorning wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:34 TheDwf wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:32 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:31 Ej_ wrote:
Jaedong and Flash have 1 thing in common in SC2

they are bad.

Here we go again

They haven't won 4 GSLs, an MLG, blizzcon, an IEM, a WCS EU and a WCG

So they suck, yeah

Comparing anyone to mvp is a little unfair lol


Neither of them got to 4 consecutive GSL Finals.

Do you think 2011 mvp had a more impressive run with 8 tournament wins including an almost flawless gsl or soo's 4 gsl finals in a row and a likely flawless dreamhack?

If soO wins this gsl then soO 's run is more impressive. This is the year 2014 and the game has been figured out a lot more than the year 2011

I never understood that argument that it's more impressive because the game is more figured out, is figuring things out and innovating not impressive at all or something?
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 27 2014 15:44 GMT
#1582
On September 28 2014 00:41 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:40 Cheren wrote:
so who is the elephant with 3 kespa players and 1 non-kespa BW champion?

I think the truest form of the elephant just got eliminated


Oh yeah, at its core it was an article about how 4 players past their peak in BW would dominate SC2.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 27 2014 15:44 GMT
#1583
On September 28 2014 00:38 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:36 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 Lorning wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:34 TheDwf wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:32 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:31 Ej_ wrote:
Jaedong and Flash have 1 thing in common in SC2

they are bad.

Here we go again

They haven't won 4 GSLs, an MLG, blizzcon, an IEM, a WCS EU and a WCG

So they suck, yeah

Comparing anyone to mvp is a little unfair lol


Yeah, no one is going to be as dominant as Mvp was, the top players are all too close to each other in skill.

then again that's what people said in BW before Flash dominated.

If soO had won instead of came second he would be the bonjwa that bonjd I think
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
September 27 2014 15:45 GMT
#1584
On September 28 2014 00:40 Cheren wrote:
so who is the elephant with 3 kespa players and 1 non-kespa BW champion?

Its pretty obvious that former bw players will be good at sc2 let alone good bw players. But i am tired of this kespa vs non kespa war, this is pointless after 2 years. Almost everyone atm in the scene was a bw player in the past so whats the freaking point of this argument
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
September 27 2014 15:45 GMT
#1585
This has to be soO vs Solar grand finals right :o
hundred thousand krouner
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
September 27 2014 15:45 GMT
#1586
On September 28 2014 00:43 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:42 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:40 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:37 stuchiu wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 Lorning wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:34 TheDwf wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:32 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:31 Ej_ wrote:
Jaedong and Flash have 1 thing in common in SC2

they are bad.

Here we go again

They haven't won 4 GSLs, an MLG, blizzcon, an IEM, a WCS EU and a WCG

So they suck, yeah

Comparing anyone to mvp is a little unfair lol


Neither of them got to 4 consecutive GSL Finals.

Do you think 2011 mvp had a more impressive run with 8 tournament wins including an almost flawless gsl or soo's 4 gsl finals in a row and a likely flawless dreamhack?

If soO wins this gsl then soO 's run is more impressive. This is the year 2014 and the game has been figured out a lot more than the year 2011

I never understood that argument that it's more impressive because the game is more figured out, is figuring things out and innovating not impressive at all or something?

it is impressive, but players were just worse and they didn't really know what's good and what's not as we do now
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
September 27 2014 15:45 GMT
#1587
Is soO on drugs ? wtf seriously never saw such a fast player .....+ Show Spoiler +
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 27 2014 15:45 GMT
#1588
On September 28 2014 00:43 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:42 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:40 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:37 stuchiu wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 Lorning wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:34 TheDwf wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:32 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:31 Ej_ wrote:
Jaedong and Flash have 1 thing in common in SC2

they are bad.

Here we go again

They haven't won 4 GSLs, an MLG, blizzcon, an IEM, a WCS EU and a WCG

So they suck, yeah

Comparing anyone to mvp is a little unfair lol


Neither of them got to 4 consecutive GSL Finals.

Do you think 2011 mvp had a more impressive run with 8 tournament wins including an almost flawless gsl or soo's 4 gsl finals in a row and a likely flawless dreamhack?

If soO wins this gsl then soO 's run is more impressive. This is the year 2014 and the game has been figured out a lot more than the year 2011

I never understood that argument that it's more impressive because the game is more figured out, is figuring things out and innovating not impressive at all or something?

Yeah, actually you could defend the opposite conclusion that dominating when the game is still mostly terra incognita is more impressive because it shows how ahead of your time you were.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 27 2014 15:46 GMT
#1589
On September 28 2014 00:45 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:43 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:42 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:40 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:37 stuchiu wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 Lorning wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:34 TheDwf wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:32 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:31 Ej_ wrote:
Jaedong and Flash have 1 thing in common in SC2

they are bad.

Here we go again

They haven't won 4 GSLs, an MLG, blizzcon, an IEM, a WCS EU and a WCG

So they suck, yeah

Comparing anyone to mvp is a little unfair lol


Neither of them got to 4 consecutive GSL Finals.

Do you think 2011 mvp had a more impressive run with 8 tournament wins including an almost flawless gsl or soo's 4 gsl finals in a row and a likely flawless dreamhack?

If soO wins this gsl then soO 's run is more impressive. This is the year 2014 and the game has been figured out a lot more than the year 2011

I never understood that argument that it's more impressive because the game is more figured out, is figuring things out and innovating not impressive at all or something?

Yeah, actually you could defend the opposite conclusion that dominating when the game is still mostly terra incognita is more impressive because it shows how ahead of your time you were.

So, stephano > mvp right

+ Show Spoiler +
the sickest bait
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
September 27 2014 15:47 GMT
#1590
IT BEGINS
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 27 2014 15:48 GMT
#1591
On September 28 2014 00:45 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:43 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:42 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:40 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:37 stuchiu wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 Lorning wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:34 TheDwf wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:32 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:31 Ej_ wrote:
Jaedong and Flash have 1 thing in common in SC2

they are bad.

Here we go again

They haven't won 4 GSLs, an MLG, blizzcon, an IEM, a WCS EU and a WCG

So they suck, yeah

Comparing anyone to mvp is a little unfair lol


Neither of them got to 4 consecutive GSL Finals.

Do you think 2011 mvp had a more impressive run with 8 tournament wins including an almost flawless gsl or soo's 4 gsl finals in a row and a likely flawless dreamhack?

If soO wins this gsl then soO 's run is more impressive. This is the year 2014 and the game has been figured out a lot more than the year 2011

I never understood that argument that it's more impressive because the game is more figured out, is figuring things out and innovating not impressive at all or something?

Yeah, actually you could defend the opposite conclusion that dominating when the game is still mostly terra incognita is more impressive because it shows how ahead of your time you were.

I don't think the meta should even be relevant. The greats from previous "eras" should be compared to their peers.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 27 2014 15:48 GMT
#1592
On September 28 2014 00:45 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:43 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:42 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:40 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:37 stuchiu wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 Lorning wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:34 TheDwf wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:32 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:31 Ej_ wrote:
Jaedong and Flash have 1 thing in common in SC2

they are bad.

Here we go again

They haven't won 4 GSLs, an MLG, blizzcon, an IEM, a WCS EU and a WCG

So they suck, yeah

Comparing anyone to mvp is a little unfair lol


Neither of them got to 4 consecutive GSL Finals.

Do you think 2011 mvp had a more impressive run with 8 tournament wins including an almost flawless gsl or soo's 4 gsl finals in a row and a likely flawless dreamhack?

If soO wins this gsl then soO 's run is more impressive. This is the year 2014 and the game has been figured out a lot more than the year 2011

I never understood that argument that it's more impressive because the game is more figured out, is figuring things out and innovating not impressive at all or something?

Yeah, actually you could defend the opposite conclusion that dominating when the game is still mostly terra incognita is more impressive because it shows how ahead of your time you were.

On a serious note do you not think the game is still being figured out?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 27 2014 15:49 GMT
#1593
"Drinking the pizza"

heh
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Mafab
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany458 Posts
September 27 2014 15:49 GMT
#1594
What was that Drinking the pizza song called?
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
September 27 2014 15:49 GMT
#1595
The time for Weird Dreamhack Music Videos™ has begun.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 27 2014 15:50 GMT
#1596
On September 28 2014 00:40 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:37 stuchiu wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 Lorning wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:34 TheDwf wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:32 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:31 Ej_ wrote:
Jaedong and Flash have 1 thing in common in SC2

they are bad.

Here we go again

They haven't won 4 GSLs, an MLG, blizzcon, an IEM, a WCS EU and a WCG

So they suck, yeah

Comparing anyone to mvp is a little unfair lol


Neither of them got to 4 consecutive GSL Finals.

Do you think 2011 mvp had a more impressive run with 8 tournament wins including an almost flawless gsl or soo's 4 gsl finals in a row and a likely flawless dreamhack?


Probably soO. I think 2012 Mvp's run was more impactful though, (not because of results) but because of what he was fighting.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 27 2014 15:51 GMT
#1597
DH music still hilarious. hahahaha
I had a good night of sleep.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17742 Posts
September 27 2014 15:51 GMT
#1598
On September 28 2014 00:51 Koshi wrote:
DH music still hilarious. hahahaha

except the majority of it is actually just dubstep with a break screen lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 15:52:40
September 27 2014 15:51 GMT
#1599
On September 28 2014 00:48 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:45 TheDwf wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:43 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:42 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:40 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:37 stuchiu wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 Lorning wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:34 TheDwf wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:32 cpower wrote:
[quote]
they are bad.

Here we go again

They haven't won 4 GSLs, an MLG, blizzcon, an IEM, a WCS EU and a WCG

So they suck, yeah

Comparing anyone to mvp is a little unfair lol


Neither of them got to 4 consecutive GSL Finals.

Do you think 2011 mvp had a more impressive run with 8 tournament wins including an almost flawless gsl or soo's 4 gsl finals in a row and a likely flawless dreamhack?

If soO wins this gsl then soO 's run is more impressive. This is the year 2014 and the game has been figured out a lot more than the year 2011

I never understood that argument that it's more impressive because the game is more figured out, is figuring things out and innovating not impressive at all or something?

Yeah, actually you could defend the opposite conclusion that dominating when the game is still mostly terra incognita is more impressive because it shows how ahead of your time you were.

On a serious note do you not think the game is still being figured out?


This. There are still things being discovered every tournament, the game is still getting figured out. I'd say the general skill level is higher nowadays though, making soO's run definitely one of the most impressive feats ever (also, don't forget GSL happened more frequently when Mvp was at this peak. With up to 8 GSL titles a year, maybe soO would have already won 3).
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 27 2014 15:52 GMT
#1600
On September 28 2014 00:50 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:40 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:37 stuchiu wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:36 Lorning wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:34 TheDwf wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:32 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:31 Ej_ wrote:
Jaedong and Flash have 1 thing in common in SC2

they are bad.

Here we go again

They haven't won 4 GSLs, an MLG, blizzcon, an IEM, a WCS EU and a WCG

So they suck, yeah

Comparing anyone to mvp is a little unfair lol


Neither of them got to 4 consecutive GSL Finals.

Do you think 2011 mvp had a more impressive run with 8 tournament wins including an almost flawless gsl or soo's 4 gsl finals in a row and a likely flawless dreamhack?


Probably soO. I think 2012 Mvp's run was more impactful though, (not because of results) but because of what he was fighting.

Personally I think mvp was a bit like batman, he fought against injustice and succeeded. Compared to soo who lost 3 times in a row to protoss.

Not the role model I will be showing to my kids for sure.
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