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Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
September 27 2014 15:22 GMT
#1461
On September 28 2014 00:21 Zheryn wrote:
How did Solar get a lead after being so behind early game with like 1 base vs 2 and down a few workers? :o

He never was behind.
Hello
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
September 27 2014 15:22 GMT
#1462
On September 28 2014 00:21 Zheryn wrote:
How did Solar get a lead after being so behind early game with like 1 base vs 2 and down a few workers? :o


He made drones early, skipped gas, and JD played really safe. Plus a quick third.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 27 2014 15:23 GMT
#1463
On September 28 2014 00:21 Zheryn wrote:
How did Solar get a lead after being so behind early game with like 1 base vs 2 and down a few workers? :o

It's incredibly easy to die to a speedling attack and jaedong looked like he thought one was coming. Solar just won because he was playing greedily while jaedong was playing terrified, and then he let 40 banelings hit his roaches
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
September 27 2014 15:23 GMT
#1464
There is 1 final scenario for innovation which would be bunny wins eu hero/pigbaby win na and forgg wins dh/2nd wcs eu which would tie inno with forgg
Icebound Esports
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 27 2014 15:23 GMT
#1465
On September 28 2014 00:21 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend Jaedong vs Solar Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
13%

★★★- Good game (7)
 
88%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Jaedong vs Solar Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
September 27 2014 15:23 GMT
#1466
On September 28 2014 00:19 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:17 HellHound wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:16 GumBa wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:15 SNSeigifried wrote:
Btw if pigbaby/hero and forgg win there regions then innovation will miss blizzcon just realized this scenario :O

Another reason to root against them

Thought you said Inno will beat soO, it won't matter if he does.

He is beating soO. But those 3 winning could be dangerous

My theory is that inno will win 3 games in a row, then he will lose 3 games , and then the universe will end due to the entropy.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 27 2014 15:24 GMT
#1467
On September 28 2014 00:21 Zheryn wrote:
How did Solar get a lead after being so behind early game with like 1 base vs 2 and down a few workers? :o


When they were both at 2 bases, Solar was at 25 drones to Jaedong's 15.
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Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
September 27 2014 15:24 GMT
#1468
On September 28 2014 00:22 cpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:21 Zheryn wrote:
How did Solar get a lead after being so behind early game with like 1 base vs 2 and down a few workers? :o

dont listen to the casters


I didn't, they are muted and I was a bit busy during the game so couldn't keep full attention to it. Watched JD defending 10pool without losing his hatch and having more workers after it, and then some time later Solar has 200 supply vs 177 ^^
hundred thousand krouner
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 15:24:51
September 27 2014 15:24 GMT
#1469
On September 28 2014 00:22 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:21 sharkie wrote:
NEVER EVER ATTACK IN ZVZ

such a bad decision..

FTFY

Not really.

I mean, whenever i watch RoachvRoach for some reason the side that went on offensive first loses.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 27 2014 15:25 GMT
#1470
On September 28 2014 00:24 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:22 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:21 Zheryn wrote:
How did Solar get a lead after being so behind early game with like 1 base vs 2 and down a few workers? :o

dont listen to the casters


I didn't, they are muted and I was a bit busy during the game so couldn't keep full attention to it. Watched JD defending 10pool without losing his hatch and having more workers after it, and then some time later Solar has 200 supply vs 177 ^^


he lost so much mining time and that equated to Solar getting 10 drones up on Jaedong.
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Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
September 27 2014 15:25 GMT
#1471
On September 28 2014 00:24 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:21 Zheryn wrote:
How did Solar get a lead after being so behind early game with like 1 base vs 2 and down a few workers? :o


When they were both at 2 bases, Solar was at 25 drones to Jaedong's 15.


That's so odd, going to have to watch VOD of that.
hundred thousand krouner
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 27 2014 15:25 GMT
#1472
On September 28 2014 00:25 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:24 Zheryn wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:22 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:21 Zheryn wrote:
How did Solar get a lead after being so behind early game with like 1 base vs 2 and down a few workers? :o

dont listen to the casters


I didn't, they are muted and I was a bit busy during the game so couldn't keep full attention to it. Watched JD defending 10pool without losing his hatch and having more workers after it, and then some time later Solar has 200 supply vs 177 ^^


he lost so much mining time and that equated to Solar getting 10 drones up on Jaedong.

You mean jd made 4 queens instead of drones?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 27 2014 15:26 GMT
#1473
On September 28 2014 00:25 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:25 stuchiu wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:24 Zheryn wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:22 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:21 Zheryn wrote:
How did Solar get a lead after being so behind early game with like 1 base vs 2 and down a few workers? :o

dont listen to the casters


I didn't, they are muted and I was a bit busy during the game so couldn't keep full attention to it. Watched JD defending 10pool without losing his hatch and having more workers after it, and then some time later Solar has 200 supply vs 177 ^^


he lost so much mining time and that equated to Solar getting 10 drones up on Jaedong.

You mean jd made 4 queens instead of drones?


Thats the mindgame. You can either make 3 queens and a spine and not die to a ling bane follow up (fairly normal) or you lose the economical game.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 27 2014 15:27 GMT
#1474
Guys, what would soO's theme song be? And what was his PL song back in the day in bw?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States766 Posts
September 27 2014 15:28 GMT
#1475
theres no main stage?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 27 2014 15:28 GMT
#1476
On September 28 2014 00:27 GumBa wrote:
Guys, what would soO's theme song be? And what was his PL song back in the day in bw?


"A boy named soO"
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
September 27 2014 15:29 GMT
#1477
I assume semis and finals will be on main stage right? Was the main stage occupied by the Blizzcon HS qualifier?
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 27 2014 15:29 GMT
#1478
On September 28 2014 00:26 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:25 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:25 stuchiu wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:24 Zheryn wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:22 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:21 Zheryn wrote:
How did Solar get a lead after being so behind early game with like 1 base vs 2 and down a few workers? :o

dont listen to the casters


I didn't, they are muted and I was a bit busy during the game so couldn't keep full attention to it. Watched JD defending 10pool without losing his hatch and having more workers after it, and then some time later Solar has 200 supply vs 177 ^^


he lost so much mining time and that equated to Solar getting 10 drones up on Jaedong.

You mean jd made 4 queens instead of drones?


Thats the mindgame. You can either make 3 queens and a spine and not die to a ling bane follow up (fairly normal) or you lose the economical game.

Thats why I said solar won the mind game when jd played terrified, and solar played greedy.

Honestly the more I play zvz the more I think early pool is dramatically better then hatch first, unless the person your up against makes perfect decisions.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46223 Posts
September 27 2014 15:30 GMT
#1479
What's a drop bear? What's that in reference to?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 27 2014 15:30 GMT
#1480
On September 28 2014 00:29 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 00:26 stuchiu wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:25 bo1b wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:25 stuchiu wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:24 Zheryn wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:22 cpower wrote:
On September 28 2014 00:21 Zheryn wrote:
How did Solar get a lead after being so behind early game with like 1 base vs 2 and down a few workers? :o

dont listen to the casters


I didn't, they are muted and I was a bit busy during the game so couldn't keep full attention to it. Watched JD defending 10pool without losing his hatch and having more workers after it, and then some time later Solar has 200 supply vs 177 ^^


he lost so much mining time and that equated to Solar getting 10 drones up on Jaedong.

You mean jd made 4 queens instead of drones?


Thats the mindgame. You can either make 3 queens and a spine and not die to a ling bane follow up (fairly normal) or you lose the economical game.

Thats why I said solar won the mind game when jd played terrified, and solar played greedy.

Honestly the more I play zvz the more I think early pool is dramatically better then hatch first, unless the person your up against makes perfect decisions.


It is better unless you have Leenock's micro I think. 10 pool is the truth.
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