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On September 21 2014 09:53 TAMinator wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 09:53 Circumstance wrote: I'm a big Scarlett fan, but this tournament wasn't a big deal for me. It's not her absolute priority, Polt and Cure aren't the Terrans she's prepping for, and there are very few pros who wouldn't be completely and utterly outplayed by those 2 anyway. She gave it a damn good fight, but she didn't play like a champ, so she won't be one. I'm still happy, because sOs losing means that Snute's chances of making Blizzcon went way up. So today's still a good SC2 day for me. it should be a big deal. She sorta needs those WCS points for Blizzcon
Not really, she needs to win WCS AM to qualify, her performance here was barely relevant. I doubt she makes it past Heart but her hopes are still very much alive.
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On September 21 2014 09:55 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 09:53 Makro wrote:On September 21 2014 09:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: I'm going to play techies in a ranked match after seeing those widow mine explosions woooooooow calm down dude my team hates me already xD LEGIT
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On September 21 2014 09:52 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 09:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Why does this loss feel so shitty. I'm happy Polt made it but goddammit Scarlett's never gonna make it to a gold. So frustrating, I'm just, ugh...
By the way I don't get home till like 12:30 so I'm not doing the thread tomorrow. Cause how you lose is important to. Even when Inno lost to DRG or Flash lost to soO, the fans could only just sit back and nod, God Damn that shit was impressive. I guess that is true, I am happy that it's Polt and I like him. If it was Zest or Flash I'd probably just break my monitor or something.
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On September 21 2014 09:53 TAMinator wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 09:53 Circumstance wrote: I'm a big Scarlett fan, but this tournament wasn't a big deal for me. It's not her absolute priority, Polt and Cure aren't the Terrans she's prepping for, and there are very few pros who wouldn't be completely and utterly outplayed by those 2 anyway. She gave it a damn good fight, but she didn't play like a champ, so she won't be one. I'm still happy, because sOs losing means that Snute's chances of making Blizzcon went way up. So today's still a good SC2 day for me. it should be a big deal. She sorta needs those WCS points for Blizzcon
Finishing 2nd in this and finishing last means exactly the same thing for her chances. Only possible difference it could've made is if she won it all (which was always unrealistic), then she'd have a chance (and only a chance) to make it while finishing 2nd in WCS instead of absolutely needing 1st.
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On September 21 2014 09:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 09:53 TAMinator wrote:On September 21 2014 09:53 Circumstance wrote: I'm a big Scarlett fan, but this tournament wasn't a big deal for me. It's not her absolute priority, Polt and Cure aren't the Terrans she's prepping for, and there are very few pros who wouldn't be completely and utterly outplayed by those 2 anyway. She gave it a damn good fight, but she didn't play like a champ, so she won't be one. I'm still happy, because sOs losing means that Snute's chances of making Blizzcon went way up. So today's still a good SC2 day for me. it should be a big deal. She sorta needs those WCS points for Blizzcon Not really, she needs to win WCS AM to qualify, her performance here was barely relevant. I doubt she makes it past Heart but her hopes are still very much alive. if she had won this tournament would that have enabled her to qualify without winning WCS AM outright (like placing 2nd or something)?
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scarlett v bomber was supposed to happen tho
the pre-patch mines + AA priority thors just make watching her lose like that feel a certain way. as a toss, im all for Trap now!
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Anyway, this tournament has been fucking great so far, thanks Red Bull !
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On September 21 2014 09:40 The_Templar wrote:Wait what about your games vs Yorkie? Bo7 now is too late
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On September 21 2014 09:57 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 09:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 21 2014 09:53 TAMinator wrote:On September 21 2014 09:53 Circumstance wrote: I'm a big Scarlett fan, but this tournament wasn't a big deal for me. It's not her absolute priority, Polt and Cure aren't the Terrans she's prepping for, and there are very few pros who wouldn't be completely and utterly outplayed by those 2 anyway. She gave it a damn good fight, but she didn't play like a champ, so she won't be one. I'm still happy, because sOs losing means that Snute's chances of making Blizzcon went way up. So today's still a good SC2 day for me. it should be a big deal. She sorta needs those WCS points for Blizzcon Not really, she needs to win WCS AM to qualify, her performance here was barely relevant. I doubt she makes it past Heart but her hopes are still very much alive. if she had won this tournament would that have enabled her to qualify without winning WCS AM outright (like placing 2nd or something)?
If she had won I think she'd have had a very slight chance by placing second. But a very slight chance. In the end all will come down to is she or isn't she able to win WCS AM.
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On September 21 2014 09:57 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 09:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 21 2014 09:53 TAMinator wrote:On September 21 2014 09:53 Circumstance wrote: I'm a big Scarlett fan, but this tournament wasn't a big deal for me. It's not her absolute priority, Polt and Cure aren't the Terrans she's prepping for, and there are very few pros who wouldn't be completely and utterly outplayed by those 2 anyway. She gave it a damn good fight, but she didn't play like a champ, so she won't be one. I'm still happy, because sOs losing means that Snute's chances of making Blizzcon went way up. So today's still a good SC2 day for me. it should be a big deal. She sorta needs those WCS points for Blizzcon Not really, she needs to win WCS AM to qualify, her performance here was barely relevant. I doubt she makes it past Heart but her hopes are still very much alive. if she had won this tournament would that have enabled her to qualify without winning WCS AM outright (like placing 2nd or something)? no because 1st place WCS AM is 1000 points more than 2nd place, while in this tournament for her a 1st place would've only been 500 more points than a last place
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On September 21 2014 09:57 Boucot wrote: Anyway, this tournament has been fucking great so far, thanks Red Bull !
Indeed, great games and great production. Hope it continues into tomorrow.
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How good must that guy who put polt #8 power rank feel now?
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On September 21 2014 09:57 hg2g2 wrote:scarlett v bomber was supposed to happen tho the pre-patch mines + AA priority thors just make watching her lose like that feel a certain way. as a toss, im all for Trap now! honestly it's the thors that scare the shit out of me as a z player. widow mines yeah whatever theyre scary but you just micro better and push through. but the thors are like a big hulking banner reading "you can't just throw your mutas at me anymore, have fun with 50 dead supply," and the difference is even bigger below pro level because i'm not playing people who are target firing thors that well in the first place
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On September 21 2014 09:57 Boucot wrote: Anyway, this tournament has been fucking great so far, thanks Red Bull !
Red Bull tourneys rarely disappoint in terms of production and quality of play.
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I really wished Scarlett would have won, In both series she seemed to have an advantage, I feel like the current state of ZvT (Terran Favored) Definitely helped Cure and Polt, and Scarlett made one mistake in each and it cost her the series. She needs to win WCS, and based of this performance (She played very well) I think she can do it. Really cheering for Scarlett and bummed that she lost D:
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 21 2014 09:58 royalroadweed wrote: How good must that guy who put polt #8 power rank feel now?
Must feel better than the dude who put Cure at 8
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On September 21 2014 09:46 Die4Ever wrote:WCS Predictor 2014Red Bull Washington Semifinals+ Show Spoiler [Changes This Tournament] +Biggest Winners Jaedong went up by ~ 14.48 %, going from ~ 60.34 % to ~ 74.82 % Snute went up by ~ 13.57 %, going from ~ 49.35 % to ~ 62.93 % soO went up by ~ 8.28 %, going from ~ 62.36 % to ~ 70.64 % MMA went up by ~ 4.94 %, going from ~ 62.35 % to ~ 67.29 % herO went up by ~ 3.83 %, going from ~ 93.95 % to ~ 97.77 %+ Show Spoiler [More] + Life went up by ~ 2.71 %, going from ~ 95.91 % to ~ 98.62 % YoDa went up by ~ 2.1 %, going from ~ 11.69 % to ~ 13.79 % Heart went up by ~ 1.13 %, going from ~ 5.05 % to ~ 6.17 % Pigbaby went up by ~ 1.05 %, going from ~ 9.74 % to ~ 10.79 % Classic went up by ~ 0.82 %, going from ~ 98.94 % to ~ 99.76 % HuK went up by ~ 0.64 %, going from ~ 2.53 % to ~ 3.17 % Bunny went up by ~ 0.39 %, going from ~ 13.63 % to ~ 14.02 % MaNa went up by ~ 0.36 %, going from ~ 1.03 % to ~ 1.39 % HerO went up by ~ 0.32 %, going from ~ 7.87 % to ~ 8.18 % Golden went up by ~ 0.26 %, going from ~ 3.13 % to ~ 3.39 % ForGG went up by ~ 0.18 %, going from ~ 11.13 % to ~ 11.32 % Cure went up by ~ 0.14 %, going from ~ 0.05 % to ~ 0.19 % Biggest Loser sOs went down by ~ 55.3 %, going from ~ 58.8 % to ~ 3.5 %WCS Point Cutoffs~ 0 % of the time 2,825 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 3.65 % of the time 2,850 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 51.66 % of the time 2,950 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 55.9 % of the time 3,000 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 92.99 % of the time 3,125 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 99.99 % of the time 3,450 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 100 % of the time 3,475 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon Top 25 Chances- HyuN (ROCCAT), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 6050
- Zest (KT), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5800
- Polt (CM Storm), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5250
- MC, is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5200
- San (Yoe), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5125
- TaeJa (Liquid), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5100
- StarDust (mYinsanity), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 4700
- Bomber, is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 4675
- jjakji (mYinsanity), is at ~ 99.99 %, Min WCS Points: 3350
- Classic (SKT T1), is at ~ 99.76 %, Min WCS Points: 3200
- Life (StarTale), is at ~ 98.62 %, Min WCS Points: 3125
- herO (CJ Entus), is at ~ 97.77 %, Min WCS Points: 3100
- Jaedong (EG), is at ~ 74.82 %, Min WCS Points: 2950
- soO (SKT T1), is at ~ 70.64 %, Min WCS Points: 2900
- MMA (Acer), is at ~ 67.29 %, Min WCS Points: 2725
- Snute (Liquid), is at ~ 62.93 %, Min WCS Points: 2925
- INnoVation, is at ~ 29.7 %, Min WCS Points: 1975
- Scarlett (Acer), is at ~ 19.5 %, Min WCS Points: 1950
- Bunny (Liquid), is at ~ 14.02 %, Min WCS Points: 2075
- YoDa (TCM), is at ~ 13.79 %, Min WCS Points: 1425
- ForGG (Millenium), is at ~ 11.32 %, Min WCS Points: 1675
- Pigbaby, is at ~ 10.79 %, Min WCS Points: 2500
- HerO (Liquid), is at ~ 8.18 %, Min WCS Points: 2250
- Heart (Axiom), is at ~ 6.17 %, Min WCS Points: 1550
- sOs (Jinair), is at ~ 3.5 %, Min WCS Points: 2850
Starts in + Show Spoiler [Polt, Bomber in Red Bull Washington] +Red Bull Washington- Polt is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 50.09 % of the time Polt wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 49.91 % of the time Polt loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Bomber is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 49.91 % of the time Bomber wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 50.09 % of the time Bomber loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. Starts in + Show Spoiler [Cure, Trap in Red Bull Washington] +Red Bull Washington- Cure is at ~ 0.19 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 53.52 % of the time Cure wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.33 %. ~ 46.48 % of the time Cure loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.02 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Trap is at ~ 0 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 46.48 % of the time Trap wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0 %. ~ 53.52 % of the time Trap loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0 %. Winning Chances Polt has a ~ 28.62 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Cure has a ~ 27.72 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 0.19 % to ~ 0.61 % Bomber has a ~ 27.53 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Trap has a ~ 16.13 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 0 % to ~ 0 % welp, with a bunch of terrans and a protoss ive barely heard of, i guess its time to go for the underdog and just root for cure's 0.61% chance
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Trap is the Soul brother of Classic and Dear. The 4th member of STX a team that created 4 champions.
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On September 21 2014 10:01 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 09:58 royalroadweed wrote: How good must that guy who put polt #8 power rank feel now? Must feel better than the dude who put Cure at 8 Where was this?
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On September 21 2014 09:49 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 09:47 IntoTheheart wrote:On September 21 2014 09:46 Die4Ever wrote:WCS Predictor 2014Red Bull Washington Semifinals+ Show Spoiler [Changes This Tournament] +Biggest Winners Jaedong went up by ~ 14.48 %, going from ~ 60.34 % to ~ 74.82 % Snute went up by ~ 13.57 %, going from ~ 49.35 % to ~ 62.93 % soO went up by ~ 8.28 %, going from ~ 62.36 % to ~ 70.64 % MMA went up by ~ 4.94 %, going from ~ 62.35 % to ~ 67.29 % herO went up by ~ 3.83 %, going from ~ 93.95 % to ~ 97.77 %+ Show Spoiler [More] + Life went up by ~ 2.71 %, going from ~ 95.91 % to ~ 98.62 % YoDa went up by ~ 2.1 %, going from ~ 11.69 % to ~ 13.79 % Heart went up by ~ 1.13 %, going from ~ 5.05 % to ~ 6.17 % Pigbaby went up by ~ 1.05 %, going from ~ 9.74 % to ~ 10.79 % Classic went up by ~ 0.82 %, going from ~ 98.94 % to ~ 99.76 % HuK went up by ~ 0.64 %, going from ~ 2.53 % to ~ 3.17 % Bunny went up by ~ 0.39 %, going from ~ 13.63 % to ~ 14.02 % MaNa went up by ~ 0.36 %, going from ~ 1.03 % to ~ 1.39 % HerO went up by ~ 0.32 %, going from ~ 7.87 % to ~ 8.18 % Golden went up by ~ 0.26 %, going from ~ 3.13 % to ~ 3.39 % ForGG went up by ~ 0.18 %, going from ~ 11.13 % to ~ 11.32 % Cure went up by ~ 0.14 %, going from ~ 0.05 % to ~ 0.19 % Biggest Loser sOs went down by ~ 55.3 %, going from ~ 58.8 % to ~ 3.5 %WCS Point Cutoffs~ 0 % of the time 2,825 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 3.65 % of the time 2,850 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 51.66 % of the time 2,950 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 55.9 % of the time 3,000 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 92.99 % of the time 3,125 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 99.99 % of the time 3,450 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon ~ 100 % of the time 3,475 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon Top 25 Chances- HyuN (ROCCAT), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 6050
- Zest (KT), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5800
- Polt (CM Storm), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5250
- MC, is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5200
- San (Yoe), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5125
- TaeJa (Liquid), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5100
- StarDust (mYinsanity), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 4700
- Bomber, is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 4675
- jjakji (mYinsanity), is at ~ 99.99 %, Min WCS Points: 3350
- Classic (SKT T1), is at ~ 99.76 %, Min WCS Points: 3200
- Life (StarTale), is at ~ 98.62 %, Min WCS Points: 3125
- herO (CJ Entus), is at ~ 97.77 %, Min WCS Points: 3100
- Jaedong (EG), is at ~ 74.82 %, Min WCS Points: 2950
- soO (SKT T1), is at ~ 70.64 %, Min WCS Points: 2900
- MMA (Acer), is at ~ 67.29 %, Min WCS Points: 2725
- Snute (Liquid), is at ~ 62.93 %, Min WCS Points: 2925
- INnoVation, is at ~ 29.7 %, Min WCS Points: 1975
- Scarlett (Acer), is at ~ 19.5 %, Min WCS Points: 1950
- Bunny (Liquid), is at ~ 14.02 %, Min WCS Points: 2075
- YoDa (TCM), is at ~ 13.79 %, Min WCS Points: 1425
- ForGG (Millenium), is at ~ 11.32 %, Min WCS Points: 1675
- Pigbaby, is at ~ 10.79 %, Min WCS Points: 2500
- HerO (Liquid), is at ~ 8.18 %, Min WCS Points: 2250
- Heart (Axiom), is at ~ 6.17 %, Min WCS Points: 1550
- sOs (Jinair), is at ~ 3.5 %, Min WCS Points: 2850
Starts in + Show Spoiler [Polt, Bomber in Red Bull Washington] +Red Bull Washington- Polt is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 50.09 % of the time Polt wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 49.91 % of the time Polt loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Bomber is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 49.91 % of the time Bomber wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 50.09 % of the time Bomber loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. Starts in + Show Spoiler [Cure, Trap in Red Bull Washington] +Red Bull Washington- Cure is at ~ 0.19 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 53.52 % of the time Cure wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.33 %. ~ 46.48 % of the time Cure loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.02 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Trap is at ~ 0 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 46.48 % of the time Trap wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0 %. ~ 53.52 % of the time Trap loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0 %. Winning Chances Polt has a ~ 28.62 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Cure has a ~ 27.72 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 0.19 % to ~ 0.61 % Bomber has a ~ 27.53 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Trap has a ~ 16.13 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 0 % to ~ 0 % So basically, everything to play for if you're Cure. This happens ~ 1.8 % of the time Cure gets 1st in GSL S3 Code S and Cure wins their next match in Red Bull Washington ro4 and San gets 1st in WCS EU S3 Premier This would change Cure's Blizzcon chances from ~ 0.18 % to ~ 3.57 % His chances aren't very good lol.
Nope:
On September 21 2014 10:03 The_Templar wrote: For those of you wondering, here's what has to happen for Cure to go to blizzcon, assuming no other tournaments are announced and he doesn't go to Dreamhack. ALL of these have to happen.
-Cure wins Redbull (duh) -Cure wins GSL (duh) -sOs loses in the group stages of redbull (already happened) -sOs doesn't go to dreamhack -MMA doesn't make it to the RO8 of WCS EU -Pigbaby doesn't make it to the finals of WCS AM -Bunny doesn't make it past the RO8 of WCS EU OR Bunny doesn't make it past the RO4 and doesn't win Dreamhack OR Bunny doesn't win WCS EU and doesn't get top 4 in Dreamhack -Scarlett/Heart/YoDa/Golden/HuK/HerO don't win their regions
IF all this happens, he ties with sOs for 16th. Crossposting. All of these events must happen for Cure to make it.
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